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soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:08 PM Jun 2020

'They are babies!' Bystanders plead with Georgia officers as they hold 5 black children at gunpoint


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“Witnesses in Clayton County, Georgia say that law enforcement officers held at least five black children at gunpoint while they were walking through a neighborhood.

Video of the incident, which was said to have occurred on Monday, was shared on Twitter early Tuesday morning.”



They’re going to make me want to defund the police if they keep this up.
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'They are babies!' Bystanders plead with Georgia officers as they hold 5 black children at gunpoint (Original Post) soothsayer Jun 2020 OP
It's like the police are doubling down on stupidity and racism Calculating Jun 2020 #1
That's what I think. 2naSalit Jun 2020 #22
Well, they do have... SergeStorms Jun 2020 #27
I would like to hear why someone called the police on a group of teenagers. madaboutharry Jun 2020 #2
You can't be sure someone called the cops on a group of teenagers Mariana Jun 2020 #5
Says there is... Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #6
Short cut Sally or cut through Karen? ms liberty Jun 2020 #10
Exactly!!! Alacritous Crier Jun 2020 #7
When I was a late teen OriginalGeek Jun 2020 #13
Like your story and right about the skin tone thing. Just thought it interesting that ..... jaxexpat Jun 2020 #15
oh yeah lol OriginalGeek Jun 2020 #18
Vera good jaxexpat Jun 2020 #20
Wow. AllyCat Jun 2020 #17
They're doing it just to be spiteful, now. nt. Mariana Jun 2020 #3
watch the clip here IcyPeas Jun 2020 #4
Keep recording, keep publishing, keep the pressure up on the bigotry. Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #8
They also frisked them. Those poor kids were probably traumatized, especially after the George tblue37 Jun 2020 #9
Atrocity!! Take the badge away from this racist fool! He has no business in law enforcement. onetexan Jun 2020 #11
There should be jail time for police who escalate needlessly uponit7771 Jun 2020 #12
All is not as it seems... kytngirl Jun 2020 #14
white people walk around with their damn guns everywhere. Voltaire2 Jun 2020 #16
Yes but NO. jaxexpat Jun 2020 #19
Back stories are so important. Thanks for the research. The Wielding Truth Jun 2020 #30
presumed guilty. blacks not allowed in nice green neighborhoods. pansypoo53219 Jun 2020 #21
This shit is getting out of control. lpbk2713 Jun 2020 #23
This is not consistent with police behavior. Warpy Jun 2020 #24
Oh my fucking god. Cyrano Jun 2020 #25
This is not who we(US) are. saidsimplesimon Jun 2020 #26
It is exactly who we are. warmfeet Jun 2020 #28
I'm a "come lately" member of the opposition saidsimplesimon Jun 2020 #29

Calculating

(3,000 posts)
1. It's like the police are doubling down on stupidity and racism
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:10 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe they're doing it as a "we don't care what you think" show of power.

2naSalit

(103,814 posts)
22. That's what I think.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jun 2020

They are challenging us to make them stop. And when they lose their jobs, they'll form/join militias and start trouble.

SergeStorms

(20,818 posts)
27. Well, they do have...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 06:38 PM
Jun 2020

the "Law and Order" presidunce in the White House. For the time being, anyway. January 20th, 2021 can't get here soon enough.

madaboutharry

(42,037 posts)
2. I would like to hear why someone called the police on a group of teenagers.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:17 PM
Jun 2020

This is what is called "systemic racism." The cops were called because they were black. They were held at gunpoint because they are black.

That's it.

Mariana

(15,630 posts)
5. You can't be sure someone called the cops on a group of teenagers
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:22 PM
Jun 2020

unless the city/county produces the 911 recording. Of course it could have happened, it happens all the time to black young people. However, the cops have proven that we can't believe anything they say, unless they produce evidence to support their statements.

Alacritous Crier

(4,516 posts)
6. Says there is...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:24 PM
Jun 2020

According to the article there is:

The department said that it would release body camera video as well as audio of the 911 call that prompted the dispatch of officers.


It looks to me like Karen probably called 911 again.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
13. When I was a late teen
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:57 PM
Jun 2020

my friend and I (both white) went to a neighborhood to meet a girl he liked. This was before cell phones but she had told him the day before about when she would be home so we drover over to her subdivision in his sister's beat-up old station wagon and parked on the street near her house and waited. It was a wealthier place than where we lived but not gated or anything.

This was in the early 80s in northeast Texas and we were a couple of metal-head kids wearing band t-shirts and and long hair and smoking cigarettes (thankfully that's all at this time but only because we were out of weed) and waiting for his girl to show up.

Apparently a neighbor didn't like the looks of us because within about 15 minutes of us parking there a police cruiser pulled up behind us and the officers got out and came up to our window (one on each side). They politely asked us to get out of the car, patted us down and found nothing but searched the car and found a kitchen knife under a seat. While they were questioning us about the knife the girl came home, told her mother what she saw and her mother came out and informed the cops that we were with them (super cool mom all things considered) and they thanked us for our time and gave back the knife with a warning that it was a little long for carrying around and we should get it back to the kitchen asap. (It was his sister's boyfriend's knife and it was in the car because he had been doing something earlier that day with it and threw it under the seat instead of taking it back inside).

My friend talked to his girl while listened to Rush on the tape deck and later we went home.

Moral of the story: If you want a pleasant encounter with police (no drawn guns, no shouting, no neck kneeling), be white.

Another time, the same police department stopped us while we did have some weed. In fact, it was in a frisbee that I had been cleaning and about to roll joints in and shoved under the front seat when we got stopped for ignoring a stop sign. (Probably enough for 2 or 3 pinners or one decent fat doob.) Exact words of the officer as he found the frisbee: "Well this is probably gonna mess up your night..." and he took the frisbee and turned it sideways so we could watch all my freshly cleaned weed float off into the night. He was right, it did mess up our night but not as much as a getting shot or arrested would have.

pretty much the same moral of the story.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
15. Like your story and right about the skin tone thing. Just thought it interesting that .....
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:21 PM
Jun 2020

"listened to Rush on the tape deck" has such a different potential inference than today. Small thing but profound.

Bit older but CSN&Y was my pull over and chill sound.

Ah, youth in all it's promise, eh?

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
18. oh yeah lol
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:28 PM
Jun 2020

didn't even think of _that_ Rush. That reminds me once of showing up at my grandpa's house for a cookout and I was wearing a Rush tour shirt and he looks at me and says "Rush? I hate that guy!" but he was just teasing me - I had lived with them for several years while in school before I got married and he knew who Rush are and that we both hate that guy.


And we had plenty of CSNY tapes too. And Joe Walsh and Tom Petty and many others but the metal stuff was more fun to dress up in while meeting young ladies we fancied.

tblue37

(68,449 posts)
9. They also frisked them. Those poor kids were probably traumatized, especially after the George
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:33 PM
Jun 2020

Floyd and Rayshard Brookes murders and other such stories in recent weeks.

They might well have feared they would be beaten or killed.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
11. Atrocity!! Take the badge away from this racist fool! He has no business in law enforcement.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 04:39 PM
Jun 2020

kytngirl

(99 posts)
14. All is not as it seems...
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jun 2020

I read an article where the kids were playing with a "gun" - tossing it back and forth. They were also shadow boxing. Someone called cops and the kids tossed the "gun" in some bushes. They complied with the officer's command. The officer had to make sure the kids did not have a weapon before he holstered his. They did not. However, they admitted they were playing with a BB gun. Backup officers found it in the bushes. The officer explained to them how dangerous it was to play with a weapon that looked real. Their parents were called to pick them up. I'm sure their parents gave them a lecture too.

The officers said it was the by-standers who agitated the situation. As much as I support the current movement, I have to stand with the police on this one. Just think if they had rolled up on those kids while they were playing with that gun. The officer was right to talk to them about the dangers of playing with a BB gun that looks exactly like a real gun. I think, I hope, I pray, he saved a life down the road by talking to those kids today about the danger of this kind of thing.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
19. Yes but NO.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jun 2020

Kids, playing with ANYTHING does not merit potential lethal interaction with police. When that is an acceptable threshold for events which lead to arrest or, hell-no, manslaughter, there exists the possibility that marching will never be enough.

We gotta hear the echoes of our own lies.

Nice cop, he didn't shoot you this time. Is it just that simple?

The Wielding Truth

(11,433 posts)
30. Back stories are so important. Thanks for the research.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 12:28 PM
Jun 2020

The crowd was in hysterics. With recent unwarranted police actions caught on video it is important to be on the look out for misconduct by the police. Violent actions on either side should be curtailed. We all have to be respectful of one another and treat each other responsibly. If I saw this I would probably yelling too. I"m glad they videoed it.

lpbk2713

(43,299 posts)
23. This shit is getting out of control.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jun 2020


It's no wonder why some people don't call the police when they have a problem.

Warpy

(114,676 posts)
24. This is not consistent with police behavior.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:49 PM
Jun 2020

It is, however, entirely consistent with the behavior of armies of occupation around the planet.

Are we getting this yet?

Cyrano

(15,388 posts)
25. Oh my fucking god.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jun 2020

It seems as though all the evil in the world has descended upon America.

Police holding children at gunpoint??? When did America become Nazi Germany?

Maybe the answer is 401 years ago with the arrival of the first enslaved black people.

Four hundred and one fucking years. How much longer? Jeezus fucking Christ. How much longer?

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
26. This is not who we(US) are.
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 06:09 PM
Jun 2020

I'm sick and tired of these minority bigots dominating the public space.

edit: to be clear, I mean bigoted people of all colors, mostly white in the south.

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
29. I'm a "come lately" member of the opposition
Tue Jun 16, 2020, 07:02 PM
Jun 2020

to tyranny. We have friends who have skills and can use the written word.

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