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pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:38 PM Jun 2020

My husband needs oral surgery and they're asking, but not requiring, their patients

to get an antibody test for Covid.

The blood test for antibodies, not the nasal test for an active infection.

Why would they be asking this? I'm asking you guys because I can't convince my husband to call his doctor's office and ask.

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My husband needs oral surgery and they're asking, but not requiring, their patients (Original Post) pnwmom Jun 2020 OP
Probably so they can gauge how cautious to be intrepidity Jun 2020 #1
Not All Of Them ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #8
Good to know intrepidity Jun 2020 #10
I'd Think So, Yes ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #13
Good question. Why not ask them? soothsayer Jun 2020 #2
If memory serves Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #3
Yeah, but the antibody test is very inaccurate, so it shouldn't reduce their cautiousness. pnwmom Jun 2020 #6
True, Miguelito Loveless Jun 2020 #11
Dental office can be one of the worst with cleaning (spraying water) and drilling. Spit going LizBeth Jun 2020 #4
I understand that. I'm just wondering why they would want him to have an inaccurate test pnwmom Jun 2020 #7
Why do you not just call and ask? Tipperary Jun 2020 #12
Because it's my husband's oral surgeon, not mine. n/t pnwmom Jun 2020 #14
I hear you. If there was a fast turn around with tests, like a day before surgery, then ya. LizBeth Jun 2020 #16
I think a better question to ask is nykym Jun 2020 #5
This!👆 SheltieLover Jun 2020 #18
It doesn't make sense. You are right pnwmom. In California people who are have certain still_one Jun 2020 #9
Well, that's a new one! pnwmom Jun 2020 #15
lol LizBeth Jun 2020 #17
Damn iphone auto correct. Sorry pnwmom still_one Jun 2020 #19
Why doesn't your husband want to take the test? Flaleftist Jun 2020 #20

intrepidity

(7,275 posts)
1. Probably so they can gauge how cautious to be
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jun 2020

But seems foolhardy to depend on test that has high false positive rate.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
8. Not All Of Them
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:53 PM
Jun 2020

You're right, some are pretty poor.
The best one out there has only a 1 in 400 chance of a false POSITIVE. So, very good.
The problem with it is it generates an unacceptable rate of false NEGATIVES.
So, if you're test positive for antibodies, you very likely have them. If you test negative, there's something like a 25% that you have antibodies, but the test missed them.
This is the only test authorized by Illinois' DPH. A second is the alternate.
They refused to use the rest.

intrepidity

(7,275 posts)
10. Good to know
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:03 PM
Jun 2020

So, for the OP then, it's likely so they can know how careful they have to be in protecting themselves.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
13. I'd Think So, Yes
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jun 2020

They wear gloves & masks to protect patients now.
Further eye, and clothing protection might be left out if somebody is antibody positive. Heavy PPE might be scary to some patients, especially kids.
If they can go to what patients are used to seeing, maybe they think that's best.
Otherwise, it full blown mitigation.

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
2. Good question. Why not ask them?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:40 PM
Jun 2020

Oh never mind— you said he won’t (I was thinking doctor’s office and oral surgeon were different things)

Miguelito Loveless

(4,454 posts)
3. If memory serves
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jun 2020

A positive anti-body test would indicate past infection, so he had it, got over it, and is no longer infectious.

I am not a doctor of the medical sort.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
6. Yeah, but the antibody test is very inaccurate, so it shouldn't reduce their cautiousness.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:47 PM
Jun 2020

No one should rely on it.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,454 posts)
11. True,
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jun 2020

a BUNCH of folk got into this market with no FDA oversight. There are two labs that have an accuracy rate in the 90s, but their name escapes me at the moment.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. Dental office can be one of the worst with cleaning (spraying water) and drilling. Spit going
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:41 PM
Jun 2020

everywhere. It is their lives too and in a confined space, not the ventilation needed and sitting in it for 8 hours or more puts their risk way up there.

Btw, I have been to the dentist five or 6 times in the last month. They are taking lots of precautions but not that far.

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
7. I understand that. I'm just wondering why they would want him to have an inaccurate test
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:48 PM
Jun 2020

for antibodies, instead of a more accurate test for a current infection?

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
12. Why do you not just call and ask?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jun 2020

Seems a bit more valid than asking du. Perfectly normal question to ask.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
16. I hear you. If there was a fast turn around with tests, like a day before surgery, then ya.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jun 2020

Makes much more sense.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
9. It doesn't make sense. You are right pnwmom. In California people who are have certain
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:55 PM
Jun 2020

Last edited Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:34 PM - Edit history (1)

procedures done are being given the COVID PCR test, that is the nasal swab

Your husband should verify, and ask why not the PCR COVID test?

pnwmom

(108,955 posts)
15. Well, that's a new one!
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jun 2020

I've been called many things, but no one has ever called me '"pneumonia" before!

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
20. Why doesn't your husband want to take the test?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:36 PM
Jun 2020

The local blood bank here does antibody testings for all donors.

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