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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 04:58 PM Jun 2020

OH NO...Say it ain't so??...The New York Times has a copy of the Bolton Book..

Now what do you think of that?....Do you think the NYT will keep the best parts... "SECRET"?

WAIT A MINUTE....WHAT DOES THE NEW YORK TIMES DO??...OH MY...

...........wait a minute....something about publishing the ....news?.....


...Maybe we will know all the best parts of the book, for FREE......Is that possible?.....
...JUST BY SEARCHING THE INTERNET....DO YOU THINK NYT will share the news?..with other newspapers?
....other media?..other countries?..all the people???....

....I need to take a rest...thank you for reading this.....Stuart..

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OH NO...Say it ain't so??...The New York Times has a copy of the Bolton Book.. (Original Post) Stuart G Jun 2020 OP
I Bet If Trump Tries to Prior Restrain the Publication of the Book and file Injunction .... Stallion Jun 2020 #1
Well said...free copies for all...you and me and the newspspers make three... Stuart G Jun 2020 #2
You know they'll try to stir up as much sturm & drang Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #3
I think it will all be out very soon...perhaps by the next moon...? Stuart G Jun 2020 #5
Moon walk? Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #22
Um, ya, you ever hear of a "scoop"? GusBob Jun 2020 #4
NO, NO & NO.....The Washington Post??? not .that one? Stuart G Jun 2020 #6
The WSJ and WaPo does too Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #7
Chuck Todd just said they have a copy too. Tipperary Jun 2020 #8
That means Rachel probably has a copy, also!! madinmaryland Jun 2020 #14
For media to get the book before publication they have to sign an NDA Jersey Devil Jun 2020 #9
All the major outlets have a copy. There's no way this will be stopped. tinrobot Jun 2020 #10
FREE??, NO CHARGE?? FOR YOU AND ME? AND WOODWARD MAKES 3 Stuart G Jun 2020 #11
ALL THE OUTLETS??....not again??...Mr. Drump will end up in a garbage dump... Stuart G Jun 2020 #13
Un-named sources say... madinmaryland Jun 2020 #17
Unnamed? There are a number of major media outlets who say they have copies. tinrobot Jun 2020 #28
Information will also be buried and spun into deception. Hortensis Jun 2020 #19
It is my understanding that the publisher has already sent out the advance copy gratuitous Jun 2020 #12
..Wait a minute...Does this book thing...have something to do with the 1st Amendment? Stuart G Jun 2020 #15
Yeah, some obscure random sentence in a quaint old document gratuitous Jun 2020 #21
Trump Needs to just point out the Non-Disclosure Agreement Exception to Freedom of the Press Stallion Jun 2020 #25
I am Nikki28 Jun 2020 #16
Warm up the fan because the shits flying off the shelves GusBob Jun 2020 #18
I wonder if the Lincoln Project got an advance copy ok_cpu Jun 2020 #20
Maybe....Lincoln Project... got a copy?...could be?.. Stuart G Jun 2020 #24
Isn't it common for publishers to send early review copies to the press? nt Binkie The Clown Jun 2020 #23
Yes, I think you are correct..early copies are already out there... Stuart G Jun 2020 #26
As Stated in the Pentagon Papers-Can't Unsee a Printed News Story So Prior Restraint is Moot Stallion Jun 2020 #27
No matter what Trump does now Chainfire Jun 2020 #29

Stallion

(6,473 posts)
1. I Bet If Trump Tries to Prior Restrain the Publication of the Book and file Injunction ....
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:02 PM
Jun 2020

....every other major newspaper will get a copy too

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
2. Well said...free copies for all...you and me and the newspspers make three...
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:04 PM
Jun 2020
.... ... ..... .....

Cirque du So-What

(25,908 posts)
3. You know they'll try to stir up as much sturm & drang
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jun 2020

As the Pentagon papers. Here’s hoping they manage to get out something worthwhile before the election.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
6. NO, NO & NO.....The Washington Post??? not .that one?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jun 2020

...Something about the Watergate Break IN??....Not that one?

....Not the Woodward and Bernstein..paper?......Not that one?..

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
9. For media to get the book before publication they have to sign an NDA
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:10 PM
Jun 2020

They probably have articles ready to print right now, having read the book, but you won't see them until after publication because they sign an NDA with the publisher.

tinrobot

(10,886 posts)
10. All the major outlets have a copy. There's no way this will be stopped.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:12 PM
Jun 2020

Information wants to be free... and somebody, somewhere, will free it.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
11. FREE??, NO CHARGE?? FOR YOU AND ME? AND WOODWARD MAKES 3
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:15 PM
Jun 2020

How can that be?............................. ..... .... ......?

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
13. ALL THE OUTLETS??....not again??...Mr. Drump will end up in a garbage dump...
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jun 2020

......Does Mr. Trump have a clue?....not according to Stu..........................

tinrobot

(10,886 posts)
28. Unnamed? There are a number of major media outlets who say they have copies.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:50 PM
Jun 2020

We're already seeing news reports with excerpts based upon those copies.

Cat. Bag. Out.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Information will also be buried and spun into deception.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jun 2020

I agree with you but also believe Stuart is correct in seemingly believing the NYT's overarching goal will be damage control to protect Republican power. Some articles will protect their reputation. Others will use that as cover to subvert understanding.

Remember how just over a week before the 2016 election the NYT published a major summary article informing the world that the FBI had found nothing in their Trump-Russia investigation. That's just an example of a major article, in addition to others on top of years of consistently slanted daily coverage intended to influence elections across the nation for the Republicans. Same for the AP.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
12. It is my understanding that the publisher has already sent out the advance copy
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jun 2020

The book is done in between the covers. The way it works is publishers send out advance copies for review to media outlets and to book sellers for the big debut. Bolton's publisher Simon & Schuster had gotten that far when Trump filed his bogus lawsuit trying to exercise prior restraint of the book's publication.

Mark Sumner has some analysis from Daily Kos here.

The lawsuit was filed against Bolton only, trying to force Bolton to bear the trouble and expense of getting all those books back, rather than requiring Simon & Schuster to do that.

So yes, a lot of people already have a copy of Bolton's book in hand. Courts have been very reluctant to exercise prior restraint in situations like this (cf. The Pentagon Papers, arguably far more compromising of national security than anything Bolton has to say). But on the off chance some recently-appointed dumbass Federalist Society judge rules in favor of the administration, it's safer for these media outlets and book sellers to wait for the administration's lawsuit to get bounced.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
15. ..Wait a minute...Does this book thing...have something to do with the 1st Amendment?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:22 PM
Jun 2020

First Amendment to ..U.S. Constitution: reads

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

wait a minute.....?? what does ....."NO LAW" mean? or "abridging the freedom of speech or of the press"

What does that last sentence mean?

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
21. Yeah, some obscure random sentence in a quaint old document
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:26 PM
Jun 2020

But this may be one of those precedent thingies that Justice Boof doesn't think should be settled law anymore.

Stallion

(6,473 posts)
25. Trump Needs to just point out the Non-Disclosure Agreement Exception to Freedom of the Press
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:38 PM
Jun 2020

maybe Gorsuch, Alito Thomas and Kavenaugh can find a new clause added since the unanimous decision in the Pentagon papers case

Nikki28

(557 posts)
16. I am
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:22 PM
Jun 2020

ready to hear of the Republicans involvement in this. I want every last name to come out. Bolton can make enough to go to another country and live under a new name and take his family.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
18. Warm up the fan because the shits flying off the shelves
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jun 2020

=Jarvanka wanted Haley to replace Pence
=Trump asked XI to help him get re-elected

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
26. Yes, I think you are correct..early copies are already out there...
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:44 PM
Jun 2020

NY Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Chuck Todd..? see post number 7..


Who else?...

Stallion

(6,473 posts)
27. As Stated in the Pentagon Papers-Can't Unsee a Printed News Story So Prior Restraint is Moot
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 05:48 PM
Jun 2020

a secret or confidence widely revealed is no longer a secret that should be restrained

Chainfire

(17,471 posts)
29. No matter what Trump does now
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 07:18 PM
Jun 2020

He can't put that genie back in the bottle. All over the country there are boxes and boxes of the books in warehouses and bookstore backrooms. Even if he pulled out a judicial hold, it will be out. It is now just a matter of how convenient it will be to read it.

While we will enjoy picking through Trump's dirty laundry, it will have no effect on Trump's loyal followers. Perhaps it will have some effect of the fence-sitters.

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