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babylonsister

(171,059 posts)
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:41 PM Jun 2020

Atlanta Police walkout following murder charge against officer who shot Rayshard Brooks

They don't get it at all.


Crime and public safety Metro ATL
Atlanta Police walkout following murder charge against officer who shot Rayshard Brooks
George Chidi Jun 17, 2020


This story has been updated.

Atlanta, GA — The head of Atlanta’s police union confirmed Wednesday that officers from the Atlanta Police Department in Zones 3 and 6 walked off the job Wednesday afternoon.

Vince Champion, southeast regional director of the International Brotherhood of Police officers, said that police officers had stopped answering calls midshift, in response to charges against Officer Garrett Rolfe who is accused of murdering Rayshard Brooks in Atlanta.

“The union, we would never advocate this. We wouldn’t advocate a blue flu,” Champion said. “We don’t know the numbers. Apparently we’re learning that command staff are asking outlying counties for support and aren’t getting it.”


Decaturish has calls out to public affairs officers in Gwinnett, DeKalb and Cobb counties for confirmation. A message to the spokesperson for Atlanta Police was not immediately returned.

Zones 3 and 6 cover south Atlanta, where Rolfe killed Rayshard Brooks after a June 12 DUI arrest turned into an altercation. Rolfe fired three bullets at Brooks as he fled with a taser in hand. Video of the shooting suggests Brooks pointed the taser at officers as he fled.

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https://decaturish.com/2020/06/atlanta-police-walkout-following-murder-charge-against-officer-who-shot-rayshard-brooks/
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Atlanta Police walkout following murder charge against officer who shot Rayshard Brooks (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2020 OP
Fired them too. Screw the blue flu, f**k the dirty cops, and anyone who supports them. Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #1
Don't fire them, but a month off unpaid would be a good start RainCaster Jun 2020 #7
Fire them and hire people who do not support that kind of disregard for human life. Jamastiene Jun 2020 #25
Fire them. We don't NEED them. PTWB Jun 2020 #44
If they are going to put a corrupt cop over the best interests of the community. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #69
No. Fire them BlueSpot Jun 2020 #74
They're making me want to say "Defund the police" soothsayer Jun 2020 #2
I Expect This Is Not Legal, Ma'am The Magistrate Jun 2020 #3
I should think so, and it gives Mayor Bottoms an opportunity to capture tomorrow's headlines... Brother Buzz Jun 2020 #54
Same for teachers also MichMan Jun 2020 #65
okay handmade34 Jun 2020 #4
It's not like there are tons of qualifications to become a cop in America Jamastiene Jun 2020 #27
And you can be too smart. Throckmorton Jun 2020 #36
Wow. That is really true? Jamastiene Jun 2020 #42
Yes, it was front page news here in Connecticut Throckmorton Jun 2020 #76
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2020 #30
Yup. Tons of good police, my ass. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #5
They are really saying is that ONLY Blue Lives Matter. Jamastiene Jun 2020 #33
Absolutely. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #34
They can be replaced. ...nt 2naSalit Jun 2020 #6
So the police are telling us even they have no faith in the system unblock Jun 2020 #8
Oh, they get it. StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #9
THIS. n/t Jamastiene Jun 2020 #28
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2020 #31
Shameful that they can't see wrong staring them in the face. madaboutharry Jun 2020 #10
Has anyone seen that video? angstlessk Jun 2020 #11
Per DA Howard the taser had been fired Phoenix61 Jun 2020 #19
The last part is the clincher misanthrope Jun 2020 #77
Besides being fired twice as others have said it is a damn taser. Cops shoot them at people all the Maraya1969 Jun 2020 #23
The taser was spent/discharged and not working. The cops knew that. n/t Jamastiene Jun 2020 #29
The Taser was unusable and his arm was pointed up in the air. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #32
Seriously? StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #35
Tasers have either a wire shot or a touch shot. The wires are typically 15 feet max. panader0 Jun 2020 #56
A taser won't do much from three car lengths away. nolabear Jun 2020 #79
For those who argue about whether it's Phoenix61 Jun 2020 #12
Good. Solve the problem by rooting out bad cops. drray23 Jun 2020 #13
Yes for the cops that walked off. Fire any for which this a 3rd or 4th fireable offense. Captain Zero Jun 2020 #80
Well, bye. Goodheart Jun 2020 #14
Those cops have some nerve. Most people won't see this other information. Jamastiene Jun 2020 #15
Has anyone seen that video? angstlessk Jun 2020 #16
So what? He might as well have pointed a stick at them StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #38
yeah...no. stillcool Jun 2020 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Jun 2020 #41
Taser was spent and is a non-lethal weapon. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #45
Did you read several posts that explained why that was not an issue and Blue_true Jun 2020 #58
sounds like they can build a new police force the right way demtenjeep Jun 2020 #17
AGREE here bluestarone Jun 2020 #21
Wouldn't even give them one chance. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #47
Agree with you also! bluestarone Jun 2020 #49
Make them bring in a Drs note saying they were ill. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #50
Yes. Blue_true Jun 2020 #60
+1 Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #67
Keep walking. johnp3907 Jun 2020 #18
gmta i was about to say good, but this is better. mopinko Jun 2020 #20
Precisely Sherman A1 Jun 2020 #22
Exactly. Time to draw a line with that type of behavior from cops. Blue_true Jun 2020 #62
Fire all of them. roamer65 Jun 2020 #24
no need to fire them, they quit demtenjeep Jun 2020 #48
True that. nt oasis Jun 2020 #78
they are mafia brotherhood...... mshasta Jun 2020 #26
GOOD , they make it easier to get rid of the worst ones and they should NEVER JI7 Jun 2020 #37
The DA's press conference was pretty clear that Rolfe was in the wrong... TCJ70 Jun 2020 #39
Fire them. Owl Jun 2020 #43
Good. Captain Stern Jun 2020 #46
Exactly. nt Blue_true Jun 2020 #63
Agreed. nt crickets Jun 2020 #75
The police are defunding themselves. /nt tonedevil Jun 2020 #51
Someone get them a McMuffin RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #52
Is this story true? sarisataka Jun 2020 #53
Look again it's all over Atlanta News. KentuckyWoman Jun 2020 #64
So to use the Snopes ratings sarisataka Jun 2020 #66
Can they be fired for calling in sick? MichMan Jun 2020 #55
Toodles! herding cats Jun 2020 #57
So cops will extort a city if their actions have consequences---good to know! bobbieinok Jun 2020 #59
This is where the absolute letter of the contract comes in handy for the City. KentuckyWoman Jun 2020 #61
Betty Bowers ... StarfishSaver Jun 2020 #68
fire them all and recruit a new police force exclusivly from the community...... Takket Jun 2020 #70
Buh bye. Flaleftist Jun 2020 #71
You think that cases like this would showcase how wrong the apologists are about it being... Lancero Jun 2020 #72
Handle 'me just like Reagan did the air traffic controllers. nt NutmegYankee Jun 2020 #73

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. Fired them too. Screw the blue flu, f**k the dirty cops, and anyone who supports them.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:43 PM
Jun 2020

I bet the MAGAts love unions now.

RainCaster

(10,870 posts)
7. Don't fire them, but a month off unpaid would be a good start
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:46 PM
Jun 2020

Other things to consider:
1. A letter of reprimand in the record of each.
2. A demotion of one rank and one pay grade.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
25. Fire them and hire people who do not support that kind of disregard for human life.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:57 PM
Jun 2020

There was some nasty stuff that happened after they shot Mr. Brooks.

1. They knew the taser was spent, not working. So, he was still not threat to them when they shot him in the back.
2. As he lay dying, they stood on his shoulders.
3. They also kicked him as he lay dying.
4. They did not administer medical assistance after shooting him, even though that is the official policy to do so.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213608903
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8432521/Atlanta-officers-involved-shooting-death-Rayshard-Brooks-learn-charges-today.html

Fire them. Yes. It's not like there are a lot of qualifications people need to become cops in America, compared to other countries. Hire people who do not support that kind of disregard for human life instead.

BlueSpot

(855 posts)
74. No. Fire them
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 10:47 PM
Jun 2020

And when we begin to restructure police departments, they can reapply for their jobs. And if they have bad records, they don't get them.

How many times over recent years have we heard about people needing to reapply for their own jobs? I always thought that sucked, but, if it is OK for regular jobs, why wouldn't it be OK for police jobs? Let's take the opportunity to do this and set some standards along the way.

The Magistrate

(95,247 posts)
3. I Expect This Is Not Legal, Ma'am
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:44 PM
Jun 2020

Most states prohibit strikes or job actions by police. It ought to be grounds for firing.

Brother Buzz

(36,423 posts)
54. I should think so, and it gives Mayor Bottoms an opportunity to capture tomorrow's headlines...
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:34 PM
Jun 2020

announcing the all new, and improve, Atlanta police force.

handmade34

(22,756 posts)
4. okay
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jun 2020

if enough officers offended quit/walk out... maybe the problem of police violence will be easier to solve

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
27. It's not like there are tons of qualifications to become a cop in America
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:59 PM
Jun 2020

compared to other countries. Let the cops with no regard for human life and no belief in dignity for the dying walk out, get fired, and hire people who do not think that way instead.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
42. Wow. That is really true?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:13 PM
Jun 2020

I have heard people say it before, but I always thought it was a joke, because cops ask the same questions over and over again even if you are the one who called them. It's really true. Thank you for the link.

Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
5. Yup. Tons of good police, my ass.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:45 PM
Jun 2020

What they're doing is saying Blue Lives Matter more than anybody else.

And triple bullshit on the union "disavowing" the walkout. I bet it was their idea in the first place.

Fuck em.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
33. They are really saying is that ONLY Blue Lives Matter.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jun 2020

Their disregard for human life and dignity for the dying is also a huge issue. The things they did to Rayshard Brooks as he lay dying are disgusting too. They should not have authority over a gnat, much less a human being's life.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
9. Oh, they get it.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:46 PM
Jun 2020

That's why they walked out.

They're watching their world change drastically and they don't like it.

madaboutharry

(40,209 posts)
10. Shameful that they can't see wrong staring them in the face.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jun 2020

There is something deeply wrong with any person who can not see that Mr. Brooks was murdered. These police officers who walked off today don’t know the difference between right and wrong.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
11. Has anyone seen that video?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jun 2020
Video of the shooting suggests Brooks pointed the taser at officers as he fled.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
19. Per DA Howard the taser had been fired
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:52 PM
Jun 2020

twice so was unusable. I doubt Brooks knew that but the cops damn sure did. The video also showed them kicking and standing on him for over 2 minutes rather than calling for medical help.

Maraya1969

(22,479 posts)
23. Besides being fired twice as others have said it is a damn taser. Cops shoot them at people all the
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jun 2020

time. They are mostly not lethal and should not be a reason to fire at someone. Plus he was running away.

It's like saying it's OK to shoot and kill a civilian if he is aiming a beebee gun at you.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
32. The Taser was unusable and his arm was pointed up in the air.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:03 PM
Jun 2020

And he was running forward. The taser was known to be expired as it has only two shots. The SOP of the APD is that unless the officer is threatened with mortal injury he is not allowed to fire during a chase.

Not only did Officer Rolfe, fire his service weapon 3 times, he then said "I got him" and went to the limp body of Mr. Brooks and kicked him and then sat on his back for over 2 minutes, while the other officer stood on his back.

Pointing a used taser is not enough of an excuse for deadly force. Pointing an unused taser is not an excuse for deadly force, since he was almost 20 feet away from the officer and running full speed. The officer was not in danger. The officer created the danger.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
35. Seriously?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:06 PM
Jun 2020

You're still making the "he pointed the taser at them" argument?

Did you see the DA's press conference?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
56. Tasers have either a wire shot or a touch shot. The wires are typically 15 feet max.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:43 PM
Jun 2020

In this case, as the taser had already been fired and not reloaded with another cartridge,
the taser was a harmless piece of plastic. It was murder.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
79. A taser won't do much from three car lengths away.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 01:25 AM
Jun 2020

Not to mention it had been discharged, they knew he was otherwise unarmed, and they assaulted him after he was down.

Phoenix61

(17,003 posts)
12. For those who argue about whether it's
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jun 2020

systemic or not I’d say this answers the question pretty clearly. They should be fired as they clearly don’t understand when deadly force should be used. Hint: not on someone holding a taser that has already been discharged twice so it is useless until it’s recharged.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
13. Good. Solve the problem by rooting out bad cops.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jun 2020

those that are walking out because they are upset they can't kill black people like they used to deserve to be kicked out of the force anyway.

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
80. Yes for the cops that walked off. Fire any for which this a 3rd or 4th fireable offense.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 01:44 AM
Jun 2020

They need to get their stuff turned in...

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
15. Those cops have some nerve. Most people won't see this other information.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jun 2020

I literally just came from reading this article on DU:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213608903

to your post. Most people won't see the other article to know how deranged the cops who killed him are or that they KNEW that taser was spent and not working. Most people won't know they stood on the man's shoulders as he lay dying.

I wish there was a way to collect several very informative related DU links together to show people more information.

Those cops have some nerve walking out after what I read in the other article. Maybe they should stay walked out and let them hire some cops who are not complicit in that kind of brutality and mentally deranged thinking. Good riddance if they stay out.

angstlessk

(11,862 posts)
16. Has anyone seen that video?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:48 PM
Jun 2020

Video of the shooting suggests Brooks pointed the taser at officers as he fled.

 

StarfishSaver

(18,486 posts)
38. So what? He might as well have pointed a stick at them
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:10 PM
Jun 2020

Neither would have been justification for the police to shoot him.

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
40. yeah...no.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:10 PM
Jun 2020
He said the investigation had taken into account both officers' bodycam and dashcam footage, Wendy's surveillance footage, civilian cell phone footage and several eye witnesses – three of whom were present at the conference today.

Howard said that Brooks presented no threat to the officers who knew that the Taser he had stolen had been deployed twice and therefore rendered useless.

Howard stated, 'Once Mr Brooks was shot there is an Atlanta policy that requires that the officers have to provide timely medical attention.

'But after Mr Brooks was shot for 2 minutes and 12 seconds there was no medical attention applied to Mr Brooks.

'What we discovered is during the 2 minutes and 12 seconds that officer Rolfe kicked Mr Brooks while he laid on the ground fighting for his life.

'The other officer, officer Brosnan stood on Mr Brooks's shoulders while he was there struggling for his life

He concluded, 'Based on the way these officers conducted themselves that the demeanor immediately after the shooting did not reflect any fear or danger but reflected other kinds of emotion.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8432521/Atlanta-officers-involved-shooting-death-Rayshard-Brooks-learn-charges-today.htm
As well as his colleague's testimony, Howard said that his office had used Rolfe's own words against him.
He said that they had based their view that his response was 'excessive' on what he called 'an excited utterance, ' – the unfiltered statement picked up by audio in the immediate aftermath of the shooting when Rolfe said, 'I got him.'
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Response to angstlessk (Reply #16)

Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
45. Taser was spent and is a non-lethal weapon.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:15 PM
Jun 2020

Might want to read up on the DA's press conference.

What do you think you understand about this situation that the DA doesn't?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
58. Did you read several posts that explained why that was not an issue and
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:44 PM
Jun 2020

that the cops knew that? Also, after the guy was shot, they stood on him instead of immediately calling for medical attention.

All cops at the scene of the killing should be fired and the cops that walked out should also be fired and replaced by people that 1) want to work in Atlanta and 2) have respect for the people that they are policing and don't shoot people and stand on them like trophy kills.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
17. sounds like they can build a new police force the right way
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:49 PM
Jun 2020

walking off the job means you quit-there goes your pension

Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
47. Wouldn't even give them one chance.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:16 PM
Jun 2020

Those walking out are choosing the wrong hill to take a stand on.

Why would you want to welcome back cops whose judgment is that off?

bluestarone

(16,926 posts)
49. Agree with you also!
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:21 PM
Jun 2020

Just thinking legally they might have to give them an opportunity? If not the FIRE the fuckers!!

Nevilledog

(51,094 posts)
50. Make them bring in a Drs note saying they were ill.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:25 PM
Jun 2020

They intentionally walked off to try and create problems for the citizens. If you're willing to lie about being sick just cuz you're butt hurt, you've shown you have no integrity.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
60. Yes.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:50 PM
Jun 2020

They abandoned their jobs. Therefore they resigned. Mayors need to get really firm with the blue flu shit, they walk off the job, they should be treated as if they resigned.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
22. Precisely
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jun 2020

Fire each and everyone of them. They walked off the job so they have terminated themselves.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
62. Exactly. Time to draw a line with that type of behavior from cops.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jun 2020

No other group, Firefighters, EMTs, Nurses, Doctors pull that shit because they care about citizen's safety and know what outcomes their actions can bring.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
37. GOOD , they make it easier to get rid of the worst ones and they should NEVER
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:07 PM
Jun 2020

be hired in any law enforcement jobs ever again.

TCJ70

(4,387 posts)
39. The DA's press conference was pretty clear that Rolfe was in the wrong...
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:10 PM
Jun 2020

...I changed my mind on the whole thing after watching it.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
46. Good.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:15 PM
Jun 2020

The kind of cops that will quit over something like this are exactly the kind of folks that shouldn't have been cops in the first place.

Good riddance.

sarisataka

(18,633 posts)
53. Is this story true?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:33 PM
Jun 2020

Most reports are tweets which point back to this one source, which cannot be reached.

I would think this would be breaking news, at least in Atlanta media

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
64. Look again it's all over Atlanta News.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:56 PM
Jun 2020
https://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/atlanta-police-walk-out-rumors-not-accurate-department-says/85-78ea71bc-3f36-4ce8-9557-86bfa2353c7c

Atlanta Police spokesman Sgt. John Chafee told 11Alive that suggestions that multiple officers from each of the department's zones had walked off the job were "inaccurate."

"However," Chafee said, "the department is experiencing a higher than usual number of call outs with the incoming shift."

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/atlanta-police-disputes-rumors-of-mass-officer-walk-outs-says-seeing-higher-than-usual-call-outs

A statement sent to FOX 5 Wednesday evening reads:

"Earlier suggestions that multiple officers from each zone had walked off the job were inaccurate. However, department is experiencing a higher than usual number of call outs with the incoming shift. We have enough resources to maintain operations and remain able to respond to incidents throughout the city."

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
55. Can they be fired for calling in sick?
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jun 2020

Teachers have sickouts from time to time and I dont recall them losing their jobs.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
61. This is where the absolute letter of the contract comes in handy for the City.
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 09:52 PM
Jun 2020

And contract negotiations on the next one are going to be a bitch.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
70. fire them all and recruit a new police force exclusivly from the community......
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 10:07 PM
Jun 2020

that's what rethugs always say to do whenever workers get upset right? fire them all? they should be pleased with this idea.

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
72. You think that cases like this would showcase how wrong the apologists are about it being...
Wed Jun 17, 2020, 10:36 PM
Jun 2020

Just a couple of bad apples.

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