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Demovictory9

(32,444 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 06:55 AM Jun 2020

White man is arrested for pointing his AR15 at a group of five black bikers who were resting close

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8434323/White-man-arrested-pointing-AR15-group-five-black-bikers-Virginia-subdivision.html

Dennis Lee Berry was charged with brandishing a firearm and has been released on a $5,000 unsecured bond, the Spotsylvania Sheriff's Department said
Brandon Foster, one of the bikers who filmed the altercation, shared the video to Facebook
He shared that he and the group had stopped in the area because three members in the party used to live in the area
The clip starts showing Dennis pointing the gun at the group, with one of the men explaining that he used to live in the area
He claims that the group will get arrested as one of the bikers explains to authorities on the phone what is transpiring





Investigators determined that the group had pulled into a cul-de-sac that was had signage that read 'Private Road No Trespassing' but the group shared that they had not seen the sign.

Outside the area of the 5500 block of Whelan Way, the group were confronted by Berry who brandished his weapon from his property.

Both Dennis and the group filmed the altercation and placed calls to authorities. It was then that authorities arrested the gun owner.

Brandon Foster, one of the bikers who filmed the altercation, shared the video to Facebook. He shared that he and the group had stopped in the area because three members in the party used to live in the area.

'We stopped at the end in the cul-de-sac to plan our route home and to stretch,' he said in a comment under the department's post. 'We were there for a few minutes.'

The clip starts showing Dennis pointing the gun at the group, with one of the men explaining that he used to live in the area .

Several of the others can be heard saying to call the authorities to the scene.

'You'll definitely go to jail for shooting me, I am a federal officer,' one of the men in the group can be heard telling Dennis.

Brandon Foster, one of the bikers who filmed the altercation, shared the video to Facebook +6
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White man is arrested for pointing his AR15 at a group of five black bikers who were resting close (Original Post) Demovictory9 Jun 2020 OP
"I am a federal officer." BeyondGeography Jun 2020 #1
Why? luv2fly Jun 2020 #3
The dumbass was the man with the gun. bluescribbler Jun 2020 #4
No, I think it was one of the bikers. nt Tipperary Jun 2020 #8
Confusion - Is one of the bikers the dumbass, or one of the bikers the one who said federal officer. Xipe Totec Jun 2020 #19
Why do you think one of the bikers was a dumbass? PTWB Jun 2020 #22
I do not have that opinion. I was pointing that out to the other poster. Tipperary Jun 2020 #36
Oh, that poster said... PTWB Jun 2020 #38
Yeah, I should have been more clear. Tipperary Jun 2020 #39
See post #3 BeyondGeography Jun 2020 #6
Correct IronLionZion Jun 2020 #14
Thank you. Tipperary Jun 2020 #37
My favorite phrase during the initial outbreak was, "I don't know." theaocp Jun 2020 #2
But - but Scarsdale Jun 2020 #5
do you really think it's fear that makes them amass those arsenals? Trueblue Texan Jun 2020 #7
i think it's fear. barbtries Jun 2020 #10
I think it is a little bit of both. Jamastiene Jun 2020 #18
Please consider this as an OP, It is quite good irisblue Jun 2020 #21
I lived in Georgia...and the schools were more intergrated than any of the schools in Wisconsin or Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #33
I think it is fear too. He was shaking in his silly little flip flops. Tipperary Jun 2020 #40
Fear is the underlying cause. Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #17
YES !!! They're consummately being told to be afraid for the sake of money uponit7771 Jun 2020 #23
Of COURSE the homeowner is "more dangerous" because Maru Kitteh Jun 2020 #20
The only dangerous person there Scarsdale Jun 2020 #32
Things are bad if anyone in this group looks menacing. The Wielding Truth Jun 2020 #28
oh, another one of those 'responsible' gun owners i keep hearing about. KG Jun 2020 #9
pertecktin heyus homelayund, bigh gawd. a patriot...............eh? jaxexpat Jun 2020 #11
another fine example robleb Jun 2020 #12
The NRA and it's many members went f'in nuts when Obama was elected and bought all the Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #13
Yep, they bought out the ammo in stores, then blamed Obama for the shortage... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #15
or C-19 miraculously just going away....or cutting deals with China at the expense of farmers, or... Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #31
Mostly it was due to a Democratic President with a Democratic Senate and House who promised... aikoaiko Jun 2020 #26
nothing happened though, right? They went nuts at the direction of NRA and a bunch of conspiracy Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #30
Yes and no. After Sandy Hook, Obama initiated the largest effort to restict guns since 1968. aikoaiko Jun 2020 #35
Had they all been slaughtered in cold blood, what would the authorities have called it? ffr Jun 2020 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2020 #24
Which rules? What announcement? B_Mann Jun 2020 #27
Go to jail, asshole. aikoaiko Jun 2020 #25
You know what's going to happen jmowreader Jun 2020 #29
good lock his un-American *** up rockfordfile Jun 2020 #34

luv2fly

(2,475 posts)
3. Why?
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 07:36 AM
Jun 2020

One of the bikers identified himself as a Federal officer. I'm confused by your comment... this makes him a dumbass?

Xipe Totec

(43,889 posts)
19. Confusion - Is one of the bikers the dumbass, or one of the bikers the one who said federal officer.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:51 AM
Jun 2020

The dumbass is the guy with the gun.

The person who said he was a Federal Officer was one of the bikers.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
36. I do not have that opinion. I was pointing that out to the other poster.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 10:41 AM
Jun 2020

One of the bikers said he was a federal officer. Nothing dumbass about that in my opinion. Several posters seemed confused as to who said it.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
38. Oh, that poster said...
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 10:49 AM
Jun 2020

“The dumbass was the one with the gun” and you replied “no, I think it was one of the bikers.”

Sorry for the confusion.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
39. Yeah, I should have been more clear.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jun 2020

I was referring to what was said. Pretty clear who the dumbass was lol, and that would be the dumbass snowflake with the gun!

I should have been clearer.

IronLionZion

(45,404 posts)
14. Correct
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:31 AM
Jun 2020
'You'll definitely go to jail for shooting me, I am a federal officer,' one of the men in the group can be heard telling Dennis.


One of the bikers identified himself as a fed. The dude brandishing the gun is a dumbass.

theaocp

(4,235 posts)
2. My favorite phrase during the initial outbreak was, "I don't know."
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 07:03 AM
Jun 2020

It's shifted to, "How hard is this?" Bruh. Our national language is two-fold. Most speak from our mouths or hands. Then, there's those who speak with money and guns. I'd start, if I felt like talking to strangers, by waving and saying, "Bonjour!" (I like French and it's hard to maintain a straight face when I say it. Just ask my wife.) Maybe note how much you like their dope bikes or prefer Harleys or whatever. Then, I'd go walk my dogs. HOW HARD IS THIS?

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
5. But - but
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 07:59 AM
Jun 2020

they are black! Everyone knows they have to be thugs, the orange leader says so. When will people see EVERYONE as fellow citizens? Those look like expensive bikes, so obviously these guys are employed and doing well. That homeowner is more dangerous than the bikers. He certainly made a fool of himself. This is sad, that in this day and age in this country there are people so afraid that they need assault weapons to live daily lives.

Trueblue Texan

(2,424 posts)
7. do you really think it's fear that makes them amass those arsenals?
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:19 AM
Jun 2020

I think it's greed and hunger for power and supremacy. And an uncivilized nature, of course.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
10. i think it's fear.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:28 AM
Jun 2020

fear breeds hatred. what are they afraid of? well their cushy little white lives are going to change. they are the literal opposite of progressive. cavemen.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
18. I think it is a little bit of both.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:50 AM
Jun 2020

A lot of them are poor, dumb white guys who haven't spent much time around anyone but other white people. They get told horror stories and believe them because they have no basis for comparison.

A lot are rich, conniving white guys with an agenda who know better and want their cushy little world to stay the way they want it. These are usually the ones telling the poor, dumb ones the horror stories and suggesting they buy more and more guns. And yes, I'm talking about at least The Republican Party and other people too, who are right in there with them doing this stuff, on purpose.

A good read is on the Southern Poverty Law Center's web site. The white supremacist, and I hate to call them that, because there is nothing supreme about them, groups aka hate groups, prey on the poor, dumb white guys and build their self esteem up while simultaneously poisoning their minds. That creates a feedback loop of associating bigotry with power. They want that power like the richer white guys, the leaders of these groups, have. So, they become hardcore and build up these weapons caches. Often, they find themselves running drugs and guns, illegally, of course, for the richer white guys who recruited them. The easiest way to look it up and read it is to read about one of the members of a hate group who turned himself around, married a Palestinian woman, and now travels the country talking about what turned him around. He explains the psychology involved.

There is a definite psychology involved.

Most of the racists are not actually IN hate groups, but they do have contact with them. They are poorer than dirt and the hate groups build up their self esteem, by preying on them, poisoning their minds, getting them to do the dirty work, like hate crimes, bombings, drug and gun running, etc. then let them go to jail for their own crimes. Of course, they should go to jail for their own crimes. They committed them. The people who put them up to those crimes are the first ones to cry "lone wolf" and go on back to their rich, white lives and do it all again. They hardly EVER go to prison. They are actually dangerous too, but they rarely ever go to prison.

It's messed up. I've been reading about this for years and trying to get others involved in learning more about how they do things, and try to think of ways to counteract them, but it involves quite a bit more reading and studying and most people don't normally have time to do it, I guess.

Anywhere you start on the SPLC web site will show you more than you ever knew, especially about just how involved The Republican Party is with the hate groups and just how many people are not actually IN hate groups, but still are in contact with them and doing what the dirty work, so the richer ones in the hate groups can keep right on going without ever going to prison for the crap they do.

So, actually, I think it is a little bit of both. There is a lot of fear from the ones who are not wealthy, don't know anything about other races, but have been told to fear them, but the richer ones, want to keep their cushy lives where they are in power over the vast majority of the population and they want it to stay that way. Look how Tucker Carlson acts. He is a classic example of one of the more mainstream richer ones who tells horror stories based on total lies he also tells. He is not the only one. He is just one that is well known. Most doing this stuff are not as well known. That is how they get by with it.

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
33. I lived in Georgia...and the schools were more intergrated than any of the schools in Wisconsin or
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 02:20 PM
Jun 2020

Ohio...they just want to look down on somebody.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
40. I think it is fear too. He was shaking in his silly little flip flops.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:49 PM
Jun 2020

He made a fool of himself, and I just wish he got hit with a more serious charge. Cannot believe you can point a weapon like that at innocent people and only get misdemeanor charges. Ugh.

Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)
20. Of COURSE the homeowner is "more dangerous" because
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:56 AM
Jun 2020

THE BIKERS ARE *NOT* DANGEROUS. They are merely black. Even your statement that the homeowner is *more* dangerous has the built in assumption that the black bikers present some level of danger.

That is the implicit bias we have all been conditioned with by society. This post is not meant as a rebuke to you as an individual - it's meant to cast light on an illustration of implicit bias in action, and how very much language matters.


When we change the way we speak about things, we are changing the way we think about them.



Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. The only dangerous person there
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 02:17 PM
Jun 2020

is the homeowner with the gun. Sad when a group of citizens can not go for a ride with friends, stop to rest, then have their lives threatened. This is truly a dangerous country to be anything but lily white.

The Wielding Truth

(11,415 posts)
28. Things are bad if anyone in this group looks menacing.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:42 AM
Jun 2020


Is FOX news so screwing with viewer's heads to cause this reaction?

jaxexpat

(6,813 posts)
11. pertecktin heyus homelayund, bigh gawd. a patriot...............eh?
Reply to KG (Reply #9)
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:35 AM
Jun 2020

Yeah, a patriot about $5,000.00 lighter (and counting).

Evolve Dammit

(16,719 posts)
13. The NRA and it's many members went f'in nuts when Obama was elected and bought all the
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:58 AM
Jun 2020

guns and ammo they could. I have several gun-toting liberal friends and you couldn't buy ammo in particular. It was a direct reaction to black men and women, with a side of Islamaphobia. Definately upticked after 9-11, but went on steroids in 2008.

Wounded Bear

(58,620 posts)
15. Yep, they bought out the ammo in stores, then blamed Obama for the shortage...
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jun 2020

claimed he was disrupting the production and sale of ammo or some shit.

Nobody blamed Trump for the shortage of shit paper.

Evolve Dammit

(16,719 posts)
31. or C-19 miraculously just going away....or cutting deals with China at the expense of farmers, or...
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 02:12 PM
Jun 2020

he escapes all accountability. Quite incredible really

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
26. Mostly it was due to a Democratic President with a Democratic Senate and House who promised...
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jun 2020

...to ban certain popular rifles, shotguns, pistols, and magazines, and raise taxes on ammo.

Mostly.

Evolve Dammit

(16,719 posts)
30. nothing happened though, right? They went nuts at the direction of NRA and a bunch of conspiracy
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jun 2020

based websites, which hold sway over GOP

aikoaiko

(34,165 posts)
35. Yes and no. After Sandy Hook, Obama initiated the largest effort to restict guns since 1968.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 02:55 PM
Jun 2020


But nothing passed.

Obama's ATF made some pro-gun decisions.
They approved bump stocks that were used in the Las Vegas massacre.
They also approved the shouldering of AR-15 braces like a stock which in effect made them short barrel rifles.



ffr

(22,665 posts)
16. Had they all been slaughtered in cold blood, what would the authorities have called it?
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 09:38 AM
Jun 2020

Suicide?

Probably.

Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

jmowreader

(50,546 posts)
29. You know what's going to happen
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jun 2020

Eventually one of these Trump supporters is going to point his penis extension at a group of people who are themselves armed...and the Trump supporter’s death will be ruled self-defense.

rockfordfile

(8,700 posts)
34. good lock his un-American *** up
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 02:30 PM
Jun 2020

What's with these idiots? this proves again the losers that are buying ARs

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