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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIncrease the size of the House!!
I don't know why this idea hasn't gained more traction.
The size of the average US House district is now well over 700,000 people. In some of the states that only have 1 member of Congress, the size of that 1 district is well over a million people. That is WAY too many people for 1 Representative.
The size of the House hasn't been changed in over 100 years. It was routinely increased after every census - including 1910, when the size of the House was set at 435 members. After the 1920 census, the size was not increased, because there were a lot of Representatives who saw that large cities were full of immigrants, and they didn't want them to have more representation (sound familiar)?
We now have the same number of Reps that we did in 1911, before New Mexico, Arizona, Alaska, and Hawaii were states. The US population is now three times what it was then. Plus, women couldn't vote at that time, and neither could most African-American men. After the 2020 census, some states will lose Representatives, even though their populations increased. It's absolutely insane.
Plus, the number of electors is based on the number of Congressional districts. California is woefully under-represented in the Electoral College. California's population is almost 80 times that of Wyoming, but they only have 53 times as many representatives.
The Senate is already undemocratic. The House needs to make up for that!
tinrobot
(10,890 posts)We can do it with a simple act of Congress.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That would be far more productive. The Senate was created to empower rural (slave) states over populous states so that slavery could be preserved. It is in direct opposition to equal rights under the law (i.e. you have disproportionately lower influence if your state is populous).
Outlawing Gerrymandering would make the House far more representative of the state's population.
moose65
(3,166 posts)Already in these comments we are losing the focus! Enlarging the House has historical precedent and is easy to understand. It could also be explained as potentially helping both sides - conservatives in Massachusetts, for example, dont have a voice right now. Of course, we know that it would overwhelmingly help Democrats, but we dont have to brag about that 😃
Warpy
(111,222 posts)It's a stupid, antidemocratic anachronism that has been disastrous the three times it has overruled the wishes of the American people. Reapportioning it would end that, as depopulated states in the interior would have far less clout. I say that as a person from a low population state. It is insane to have a state with about 2,000,000 people has 5 electors, while CA, with a population 20 times that, has 55 electors, a factor of only 11. Clearly, this is utterly insane and open to horrific manipulation, which we saw both in 2000 and in 2016.
Getting rid of this dinosaur might prove problematic, constitutional amendments are very hard to get passed. Pulling its teeth would do about the same thing and the country would be better for it.
Instead of being a barrier to electing populist disasters, it has facilitated them.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)Under the current system, most people's votes simply don't count, especially if your preferred political party is in the minority in your state.
If we actually elected the President by popular vote, they'd have to campaign in more of the country. Or at least send good surrogates.
Bev54
(10,044 posts)time for it to go. I would rather see the senate increased with relation to population more so than the house. If the senate was a true representative of the population, the dems would likely rule.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)a separate body not influenced by population.
Not sure making number of senators population dependent is such a good idea.
RicROC
(1,204 posts)Get rid of the electoral College and while they are at it, get rid of the Senate.
Voter Representation should rely on population and not on land mass.
I do think that states should be represented by 'someone' who is elected by the entire state, as opposed from just a district.
Maybe combine the Senate with the House?
Bev54
(10,044 posts)and it is only Moscow Mitch that has made it redundant. If it worked properly with the house, it has its place, just not the way it is working now.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)crickets
(25,959 posts)moose65
(3,166 posts)My post was about increasing the size of the House. Thats it!
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)Warpy
(111,222 posts)The problem is that a lot of low population states would yowl about that and it would be a very tough sell both in Congress and to the states to get it repealed.
Reapportioning it wouldn't take an amendment. It would be a much easier process.
Wounded Bear
(58,618 posts)Right now this is the core form of gerrymandering in place, that didproportionate representation of small, largely rural states.
Bumping the House by 50 seats would cure a lot of that.
RicROC
(1,204 posts)1) Right now the # of Representatives is fixed. I suggest we 'uncouple' it from a fixed #. That after the census, every 10 years, the formulation of the House of Rep is changed based on a formula of population and not try to fit population into 435 seats or a fixed # of seats. It's' possible that the House could be increased to 600 members.
2) One positive result is that the # of people in each district is decreased, therefore, each Rep (or as I call it , MC Member of Congress) should be able to have more intimate and closer contact with his constituents.
3) and now for something completely different.....instead of gerrymandering, draw political districts based on school districts/combination of school districts.
Voters would have a much better idea what their voter districts look like.
For large population centers, draw districts based on the look of the high school draw area.
moose65
(3,166 posts)How many seats should the House have? The population has tripled since the last increase, but I dont know how well the idea of 1,300 Representatives would go over!
At the very least, the most egregious things need to be fixed:
DC needs a full-fledged voting member of the House. It should be treated just like a state in redistricting.
No state should lose representatives unless the population has decreased since the previous census.
There should be a formula for automatically increasing the House size after every census.
The number of Reps for NM, AZ, AK and HI should be added to the total, at least, since they werent states the last time the size was increased. Lets see: Alaska has 1, Hawaii has 2, New Mexico has 3, and Arizona has 9. Along with 1 for DC, thats 16 more seats at minimum. I think we need more to account for population growth. Heres a random number: 90 more seats, for a total of 525.
RicROC
(1,204 posts)You have good, thoughtfull ideas. I like the idea about those states who were admitted to the Union after the # of seats were fixed.
For a radical idea, combine the Senate and the House, take the # of seats per state, but save two of those seats for Senators who are elected by the entire state. can still call them Senators but each vote is equal to anyone else. Their term is longer.