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bbernardini

(9,936 posts)
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:22 PM Jun 2020

Math folks: what are the odds that the "14/88" thing with the new Drumpf FB ads was coincidence?

I've always sucked at math problems involving odds. Call me a conspiracy nut, but I think the 14/88 stuff in the new Drumpf ads is intentional. However, it got me to wondering...what are the odds that something like that could just happen accidentally, by chance?

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Math folks: what are the odds that the "14/88" thing with the new Drumpf FB ads was coincidence? (Original Post) bbernardini Jun 2020 OP
I have no idea what this means or to what you are referring. Can you give a hint? boston bean Jun 2020 #1
14/88 Zoonart Jun 2020 #5
Ok but what ad? Is there an example? boston bean Jun 2020 #7
I looked up David Lane. He also wrote 88 Precepts. boston bean Jun 2020 #12
Correction on the 88: mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #13
I thought 88 was HH . Hiel hitler Fullduplexxx Jun 2020 #16
All Nazi all the time. Zoonart Jun 2020 #17
Pretty low. Aristus Jun 2020 #2
I am obviously not a Neo-Nazi then because I have no idea what the numbers mean Ferrets are Cool Jun 2020 #3
Zero. You don't need to perform any calculations to know that. RockRaven Jun 2020 #4
what is the 14/88 stuff in the ads? qazplm135 Jun 2020 #6
From the ADL LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #8
The Odds Against Random Are Infinity! ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #9
Some clarification... bbernardini Jun 2020 #10
Now, that's weird. NT mahatmakanejeeves Jun 2020 #14
Are you referring to this Mother Jones article? chowder66 Jun 2020 #11
Between Qanon and nazi codes soothsayer Jun 2020 #15

Zoonart

(11,828 posts)
5. 14/88
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:27 PM
Jun 2020

14/88
"14" representing 14 words written by David Lane, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children."

This is correct

The 88 defs are all wrong.

"88" refers to 88 words from Mein Kompf (author Adolph Hitler) about the supremacy of the white race.
14/88 and 88/14 are a common sign-on and sign-off on IRC Nazi channels.
#88/14#mein kompf#kkk#adolph hitler#david lane

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,283 posts)
13. Correction on the 88:
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:37 PM
Jun 2020

"88" refers to the eighth letter of the alphabet, H.

Heil Hitler.

As others have said, what ad?

Aristus

(66,275 posts)
2. Pretty low.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:25 PM
Jun 2020

It's a very obvious dog-whistle. Although to anyone not in the white supremacy movement who understands the significance of those numbers to the Neo-Nazis, it's as clear and overpowering as a factory whistle.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
8. From the ADL
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jun 2020

1488 is a combination of two popular white supremacist numeric symbols. The first symbol is 14, which is shorthand for the "14 Words" slogan: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children." The second is 88, which stands for "Heil Hitler" (H being the 8th letter of the alphabet). Together, the numbers form a general endorsement of white supremacy and its beliefs. As such, they are ubiquitous within the white supremacist movement - as graffiti, in graphics and tattoos, even in screen names and e-mail addresses, such as aryanprincess1488@hate.net. Some white supremacists will even price racist merchandise, such as t-shirts or compact discs, for $14.88.


And there was a movie called 14/88. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3387980/

ProfessorGAC

(64,827 posts)
9. The Odds Against Random Are Infinity!
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jun 2020

Any two numbers from an infinite set? The odds of randomly picking those numbers is 1 over infinity, which is infinity.
Even if they were looking for two 2 digit numbers, the odds are 1 in 8,010 that they pick those 2 specific values.
So, the answer is, no it was not random.

bbernardini

(9,936 posts)
10. Some clarification...
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:33 PM
Jun 2020

The ads that Facebook removed were posted to 88 different Facebook pages, and each one started with a 14 word sentence. See the above posts for a better explanation of 14/88 than I can provide. It's a pretty common thing for neo-Nazis to try and slip in 14/88 references whenever they can.

chowder66

(9,046 posts)
11. Are you referring to this Mother Jones article?
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:34 PM
Jun 2020

Media Matters noticed the campaign had purchased a total of 88 ads featuring the concentration camp badge symbol, which Mother Jones confirmed. Each ad started with a 14 word sentence. The number 1488 is a common neo-nazi hate symbol that makes reference to Adolf Hitler and a widespread white supremacist slogan.

https://www.motherjones.com/2020-elections/2020/06/trump-upside-down-triangle-antifa/

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
15. Between Qanon and nazi codes
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jun 2020

...I’m beginning to see why it doesn’t bother his supporters that he speaks in gibberish.

They’re probably trying to decode it.

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