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Is Wall Street scared of @AOC ? Seems so. (Original Post) melman Jun 2020 OP
Yes they are terrified of her. Haters got a hate on for her. Fuck em. Autumn Jun 2020 #1
Good. That's all you need to know that she's right SoonerPride Jun 2020 #2
I'm sure they will back someone more corporate/bank friendly. I mean, they are the job jalan48 Jun 2020 #3
Yes melman Jun 2020 #5
Look for them to encourage their candidate to keep any talk of income inequality on the down low. jalan48 Jun 2020 #7
That "right-wing former CNBC host" is a registered Democrat. Why are you bashing Democrats? George II Jun 2020 #15
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is a sitting Democratic Rep. melman Jun 2020 #19
I do? George II Jun 2020 #20
Would you support Donald Trump if he switched parties? PTWB Jun 2020 #51
donald trump isn't the topic of discussion. George II Jun 2020 #52
So you support a right winger who has switched parties to sabotage AOC PTWB Jun 2020 #53
That's a hypothetical question. George II Jun 2020 #54
Indeed. PTWB Jun 2020 #55
The premise you put forth in that question is false, rendering it hypothetical. No ulterior motives. George II Jun 2020 #56
You're still refusing to answer. PTWB Jun 2020 #57
Once again, it's a hypothetical, the premise is invalid. Ask one based on fact... George II Jun 2020 #58
Of course you refuse to answer. PTWB Jun 2020 #59
If I sprouted wings and flew to the North Pole, would you congratulate me? See how it works? George II Jun 2020 #60
Yes, I would. PTWB Jun 2020 #61
Easy answer, since we all know it's not possible. That's similar to the premise of.... George II Jun 2020 #64
If it isn't possible then it should be even easier for you to answer. PTWB Jun 2020 #65
I can answer the question Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #67
I don't think anyone here would. PTWB Jun 2020 #74
This is a primary, didn't you know that? George II Jun 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #44
You're asking the wrong guy melman Jun 2020 #45
Sorry Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #47
"With a forward by Larry Kudlow" RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #26
Jim Justice was a "registered Democrat" too wellst0nev0ter Jun 2020 #27
So was Elizabeth Warren. sheshe2 Jun 2020 #39
Warren was a Republican decades ago Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #40
No one is 'funded by Wall Street'. sheshe2 Jun 2020 #41
So this is not true? Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #43
it's partly true, but it's not exclusive to MCC. It's also true for at least one other candidate.... George II Jun 2020 #50
Where does the article say anything about Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #66
So if Trump becomes a Democrat Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #48
Democrats ARE permitted to be criticized, but some forget that. George II Jun 2020 #49
So it's ok to point out that Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #69
No one said it wasn't okay (at least not from here) George II Jun 2020 #72
Stocker Broker friend says Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #4
We love Katie here in the OC. Big respect for AOC. We could use a couple dozen more like each. Magoo48 Jun 2020 #9
And they fear Katie Porter because she has the power of the party. Hortensis Jun 2020 #10
Porter is just plain Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #12
Yes, she's already a strong, promising member of the team. Hortensis Jun 2020 #13
She's 1 of 3 out of 235 in the house, and 0 in the senate, so no. Hortensis Jun 2020 #6
This treestar Jun 2020 #8
Liberal business leaders?? Magoo48 Jun 2020 #11
:) Joking, I assume. But some people's minds Hortensis Jun 2020 #18
I think many here would be shocked to know the ratings found on "Progressive Punch" of various.... George II Jun 2020 #16
It's been a while since I've been over there. No surprises Hortensis Jun 2020 #21
NY-14 is one of the poorest districts in the country when considering COL. George II Jun 2020 #17
Why would "Wall Street" possibly be afraid of her? I don't know how much either.... George II Jun 2020 #14
Exactly, and she voted against the $2-trillion coronavirus relief package, so they surely love her. R B Garr Jun 2020 #22
Yes, the ONLY Democrat who did so, along with four republicans. George II Jun 2020 #23
That is just bizarre. It's really indefensible and R B Garr Jun 2020 #25
She turned out to be right wellst0nev0ter Jun 2020 #30
But wasn't that a pervious program? This bill was passed on April 23. betsuni Jun 2020 #32
Was there any reforms to this program? wellst0nev0ter Jun 2020 #35
Yes there were. betsuni Jun 2020 #36
Goodness, people have to go without money because a R B Garr Jun 2020 #33
$1200 check from previous bill wellst0nev0ter Jun 2020 #34
I'm fine. I saw her floor speech. R B Garr Jun 2020 #37
This isn't complicated wellst0nev0ter Jun 2020 #62
That's quite a whitewash in itself. The original CARES also helped corporations, lol. R B Garr Jun 2020 #63
We don't even know who got the payment protection funds wellst0nev0ter Jun 2020 #76
That has been all over the news. It doesn't mean you don't R B Garr Jun 2020 #77
Her constituents were overwhelmingly against the bill she voted against democrattotheend Jun 2020 #71
That's great that her constituents didn't need the help. R B Garr Jun 2020 #75
Post removed Post removed Jun 2020 #29
When has she accepted billionaire money? democrattotheend Jun 2020 #68
Source? Yes. FEC.gov. George II Jun 2020 #70
No one is afraid of AOC - she has no power DenverJared Jun 2020 #28
What's the key word? melman Jun 2020 #31
A first term Congresswoman is not feared. Caruso is a money honey and one of their own...of course Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #38
I'm not so sure about that democrattotheend Jun 2020 #73
Nah. sheshe2 Jun 2020 #42
I'm sure they don't like her mvd Jun 2020 #46

jalan48

(13,840 posts)
3. I'm sure they will back someone more corporate/bank friendly. I mean, they are the job
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 06:01 PM
Jun 2020

creators after all according to the Reagan acolytes.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
5. Yes
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 06:09 PM
Jun 2020

They're backing that right-wing former CNBC host currently being promoted by awful people on the internet.

jalan48

(13,840 posts)
7. Look for them to encourage their candidate to keep any talk of income inequality on the down low.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020
 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
51. Would you support Donald Trump if he switched parties?
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:13 PM
Jun 2020

I sure as fuck wouldn’t.

Do some research on what is happening here and who you’re supporting.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
53. So you support a right winger who has switched parties to sabotage AOC
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:19 PM
Jun 2020

...

Also, way to dodge the question. I didn’t expect you to answer it because that would have taken some conviction. Be honest in your arguments.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
55. Indeed.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:47 PM
Jun 2020

One you’ve declined to answer because you know it will expose your ulterior motives.

George II

(67,782 posts)
56. The premise you put forth in that question is false, rendering it hypothetical. No ulterior motives.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:53 PM
Jun 2020
 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
57. You're still refusing to answer.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 09:12 PM
Jun 2020

It is a very simple question. If Trump switched parties and became a registered Democrat, would you support him?

George II

(67,782 posts)
58. Once again, it's a hypothetical, the premise is invalid. Ask one based on fact...
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 09:53 PM
Jun 2020

...and reality and I'll be happy to answer it.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
59. Of course you refuse to answer.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 09:54 PM
Jun 2020

It is a simple question with what should be a simple answer.

I'll answer just to show you how easy it is. If Trump switched his party and was a registered Democrat, I would not support him.

Can you say the same?

George II

(67,782 posts)
64. Easy answer, since we all know it's not possible. That's similar to the premise of....
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:02 PM
Jun 2020

....your question(s).

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
65. If it isn't possible then it should be even easier for you to answer.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:09 PM
Jun 2020

I could answer it. I wonder why you couldn't?

If Trump switched parties and became a registered Democrat, would you support him?

I would not.

See how simple that is? It begs the question why you are unwilling to answer that.

It also goes to my point that you choose to throw your support behind a current right winger who has switched her party to compete in a Democratic primary, instead of an established Democratic candidate.

Do you choose to support a right winger over AOC because she's a woman, a woman of color, or is she too progressive for you?

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
67. I can answer the question
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:41 PM
Jun 2020

If Trump were to become a Democrat I would not support him. Very easy.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
74. I don't think anyone here would.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:46 PM
Jun 2020

He stands for everything we stand against. It should very a very, very simple question to answer.

Response to melman (Reply #19)

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
27. Jim Justice was a "registered Democrat" too
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:51 AM
Jun 2020

Justice was a goop before he suddenly switched to Dem--just like Caruso-Cabrera.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
40. Warren was a Republican decades ago
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 05:00 PM
Jun 2020

and switched parties long before she ran for office. And Warren is not funded by Wall Street and other right wing sources.

sheshe2

(83,637 posts)
41. No one is 'funded by Wall Street'.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 05:09 PM
Jun 2020

No one can give more to a campaign than the max which I believe is 2300.

That is the mantra here, however not true.

George II

(67,782 posts)
50. it's partly true, but it's not exclusive to MCC. It's also true for at least one other candidate....
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 08:10 PM
Jun 2020

....running for the NY-14 Democratic nomination.

MCC is getting contributions from people who work on Wall Street, they're limited to the FEC annual maximums like everyone else.

Those people could include file clerks, maintenance people, cafeteria workers, IT people, etc.

Getting back to the subject line of the OP, Wall Street is a 7-block strip of paving in lower Manhattan.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
66. Where does the article say anything about
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:35 PM
Jun 2020

file clerks, maintenance people, cafeteria workers, IT people? What it does say is that she ‘ has raised more than $2m in funding from a variety of bankers, lawyers, investors, and executives’. And that she use to be a registered Republican.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
69. So it's ok to point out that
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jun 2020

Michelle Caruso-Cabrera use to be a registered Republican and is being funded by Wall Street.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. Stocker Broker friend says
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 06:08 PM
Jun 2020

the Wall Street Crowd are more than scared of her. The one they real fear is Katie Porter.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. And they fear Katie Porter because she has the power of the party.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 06:22 PM
Jun 2020

Fighting the Democrats is a serious weakness of Ocasio's for them to exploit that Porter emphatically does not share.

Because it's the DEMOCRATS the greedy ones fear above everything else. For all the right reasons.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
12. Porter is just plain
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 06:43 PM
Jun 2020

and simply organized as well as light years,educationally ahead of most of D.C.. Such a pleasure to watch and listen to a Person that can keep several in depth conversations with her adversaries going at the same time. And kill them with facts.

We now see why she was one of the top rated Professor's on Campus.

You have to marvel at the amount of solid info she and her staff bring to the table.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
13. Yes, she's already a strong, promising member of the team.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:05 PM
Jun 2020

Porter developed some renown regarding consumer and banking law before entering congress, and the RW financial sector had good reason for not being pleased when Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris helped recruit her for congress.

But some others on this thread need to realize that neither Ocasio nor Porter is feared in the least by far more powerful people. Those do fear the very scary Democratic Party committed to reform -- but only for real when we may actually get the power needed for reform.

Ocasio and Porter are given assignments by their committee and subcommittee leaders, important assignments to Porter commensurate with her special abilities, sure, but still team assignments. And the leaders discuss and plan with the members the lines they should pursue those rare times a committee is in front of the cameras. Members aren't loose cannons allowed to go off on their own instead of as part of a coordinated strategy, and certainly not freshmen.

Teamwork -- the whole much more powerful than its parts.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. She's 1 of 3 out of 235 in the house, and 0 in the senate, so no.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jun 2020

I'm guessing that very few of even liberal business leaders like or respect her since she smears them with the worst of the conservatives, not bothering to differentiate between them, but that's very different.

The donations are comparatively small -- the big money's in Ocasio's kitty and that of whatever Republican the conservatives are donating to. Ocasio-Cortez had $2.5 million versus her opponent's $1 million at last report.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
18. :) Joking, I assume. But some people's minds
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:38 PM
Jun 2020

run on tracks laid by others and they really don't know.

Lol, reminds me we just heard that Trump while meeting with Prime Minister May, hearing nuclear weaponry mentioned, said: "Oh, are you a nuclear power?"

George II

(67,782 posts)
16. I think many here would be shocked to know the ratings found on "Progressive Punch" of various....
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:20 PM
Jun 2020

....members of congress.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. It's been a while since I've been over there. No surprises
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:55 PM
Jun 2020

per se since I'm used to it disagreeing so much from raters of other analyses of congressional members. Still, of course you're very right.

George II

(67,782 posts)
14. Why would "Wall Street" possibly be afraid of her? I don't know how much either....
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:17 PM
Jun 2020

....Schwarzman or Solomon are worth, but she has accepted billionaire money, hedge fund manager at that!

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
22. Exactly, and she voted against the $2-trillion coronavirus relief package, so they surely love her.
Thu Jun 18, 2020, 08:56 PM
Jun 2020

What the heck.

betsuni

(25,374 posts)
32. But wasn't that a pervious program? This bill was passed on April 23.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 03:35 AM
Jun 2020

Your article is dated the 25. They couldn't have received money that quickly, it was from the previous program.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/firms-trump-links-or-worth-100-million-got-small-business-n1190741

The April 23 bill was different.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
33. Goodness, people have to go without money because a
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 06:22 AM
Jun 2020

story of a company taking $2 million satisfies some politician’s idealistic floor speech?? Wow, I’m so glad I am not her constituent. That must anger people who are suffering.

I got my $1,200, my husband got his. Everyone I know got theirs. So she wasn’t right.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
62. This isn't complicated
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 10:34 PM
Jun 2020

The CARES Act allocates funds for the $1,200 relief checks

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/116/hr748

AOC voted for the CARES Act

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/116-2019/h493

What AOC voted against was the $484 billion slush fund for megacorps, or rather the Payment Protection Program, which has been an unmitigated disaster

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/08/paycheck-protection-program-has-been-disaster-heres-how-we-can-replace-it/

You are grossly misinformed. Do better.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
63. That's quite a whitewash in itself. The original CARES also helped corporations, lol.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 10:50 PM
Jun 2020

Why punish her constituents for the inept Trump administration. Just approve the funds so anyone can get the funds they need. It's not a time for purity. Oversight is quite a joke to the people in office, obviously. It's pretty bad when you join four Republicans to vote no.

And it's not a "slush fund". It's called the Coronavirus Relief Fund. That's the name. They are not totally separate.


https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-explains-why-she-voted-against-coronavirus-relief-package-1499998

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
77. That has been all over the news. It doesn't mean you don't
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 01:59 AM
Jun 2020

try and help those you can. Like I said, I heard her reasoning and the idealism doesn’t match the times we’re in. It’s very far-fetched and frustrating to follow. I’m glad I don’t have to since I’m not in New York.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
71. Her constituents were overwhelmingly against the bill she voted against
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:44 PM
Jun 2020

And for the record, she voted for the bill with the $1,200 stimulus. It was the replenishment of the PPP, which lacked many of the reforms she and other Democrats pushed for and lacked funding for state and local governments, that she voted against.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
75. That's great that her constituents didn't need the help.
Sat Jun 20, 2020, 12:14 AM
Jun 2020

"Replenishment" -- yes. We all heard what she had to say about it. I don't live in New York, so I guess there are no hospitals or corporations that employ people. It only gets complicated if everything has to be viewed by what one lone politician votes on and obviously the other Democrats disagreed. I'll stick with them.



Response to George II (Reply #23)

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
68. When has she accepted billionaire money?
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:43 PM
Jun 2020

Do you have a source for that?

I know she doesn't accept corporate PAC money, so I assume you mean donations from individual Wall Street bankers? I'm curious why any of them would want to donate to her.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
38. A first term Congresswoman is not feared. Caruso is a money honey and one of their own...of course
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:07 PM
Jun 2020

wall Street will back her. I don't care for Caruso and if I lived in AOC's district, i would vote for her, but Caruso could win the primary..don't kid yourself. It must be fairly close or AOC would not be debating...those winning rarely do.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
73. I'm not so sure about that
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:46 PM
Jun 2020

I think AOC gave Joe Crowley a hard time about not debating her initially, so she'd look hypocritical if she refused to debate her opponents. Especially since there were more than one, so otherwise they would have had the debate without her, which would have made her look really bad.

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