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babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 10:49 AM Jun 2020

David Corn: John Bolton Provides a Harrowing Portrait of Trump's Surrender to Putin

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/06/john-bolton-provides-a-harrowing-portrait-of-trumps-surrender-to-putin/

John Bolton Provides a Harrowing Portrait of Trump’s Surrender to Putin
His book offers more evidence that Trump won’t stop a Russian attack on 2020.
David Corn
Washington, DC, Bureau ChiefBio | Follow



John Bolton’s too-late book has produced a string of revelations that warrant headlines and outrage. President Donald Trump, in this account, encouraged Chinese President Xi Jinping to build concentration camps as part of China’s genocidal war on its Uighur population. Trump beseeched Xi to help him win reelection in 2020. He displayed brazen ignorance. (He didn’t know the United Kingdom is a nuclear power or that Finland is not part of Russia.) And he did indeed withhold military aid to pressure the Ukrainian president—for which he was impeached—to launch investigations to tar Joe Biden and promote a nutty conspiracy theory that holds that Ukraine, not Russia, hacked the 2016 presidential election. Receiving less attention than these made-for-Twitter disclosures is what Bolton says about Trump’s response to Vladimir Putin’s attack on that election. But this stuff is important, for here is yet another indication that Trump has no interest in thwarting a Kremlin assault on the current election.

According to Trump’s own top intelligence officials, Moscow is currently trying to intervene in the 2020 campaign. Both FBI Director Chris Wray and Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe have said so in congressional testimony, without providing details about the ongoing covert Russian efforts. So one obvious question is, what is Trump doing about this? The answer, per Bolton, is nothing.

In his book, Bolton does not go into great depth on this crucial matter. But Trump’s former national security adviser notes that Trump “willfully ignored or denied that Russia was meddling globally in US and many other elections.” This is the public posture Trump has taken since the 2016 election and through his years in the White House. He has downplayed or dismissed the Russian attack, even though the US intelligence community has concluded it occurred and was mounted by Vladimir Putin in part to help Trump win. (A recent Senate Intelligence Committee report cited an intelligence intercept of a communication from a Russian cyber-operative who described Election Night this way: “On November 9, 2016, a sleepless night was ahead of us. And when around 8 a.m. the most important result of our work arrived, we uncorked a tiny bottle of champagne…took one gulp each and looked into each other’s eyes…We uttered almost in unison: ‘We made America great.'”) Still, even in the privacy of the Oval Office, Trump would not discuss with his top national security aide the Russian intervention—or, worse, the prospect of a repeat performance.

“Trump believed that acknowledging Russia’s meddling in US politics, or in that of many other countries in Europe and elsewhere, would implicitly acknowledge that he had colluded with Russia in his 2016 campaign,” Bolton writes.


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Overall, the book illuminates Trump’s foremost sin: He has repeatedly placed his own personal interests ahead of the national security of the United States. Bolton could not even have an honest and straightforward conversation with Trump about this. In one chilling passage, Bolton recounts that he not once spoke candidly with Trump regarding Putin: “He never offered an opinion [of Putin], at least in front of me. I never asked what Trump’s view was, perhaps afraid of what I might hear.”

When the national security adviser to the president cannot talk to the commander in chief about a paramount threat to the country, it is a sign that neither one of them should continue in their jobs.
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David Corn: John Bolton Provides a Harrowing Portrait of Trump's Surrender to Putin (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2020 OP
Russian in November 2016 'We made America great.'" Botany Jun 2020 #1
Yep. dalton99a Jun 2020 #4
Exactly empedocles Jun 2020 #2
I am the very model of a modern Major-sellout lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #3
⭐️K&R⭐️ spanone Jun 2020 #5
And Russia's working hard right now to make America "even greater." Hortensis Jun 2020 #6
Somehow, we have to overwhelm and drown them out. Hermit-The-Prog Jun 2020 #18
What they did in 2016 doesn't seem a fraction as effective now, Hortensis Jun 2020 #20
K and R...thank you.. Corn's ananlysis & revelations are right on..outstanding post, perhaps most - Stuart G Jun 2020 #7
Bolton's silence helped the Russians zentrum Jun 2020 #8
While it is a..."a mess of maggots"...it is a warning "now" , as opposed to "after the election.." Stuart G Jun 2020 #9
Well, we know what broke Big Dummy's spell in his case Warpy Jun 2020 #10
Putin got his money's worth in fixing the election for turmp Gothmog Jun 2020 #11
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #12
I feel that David Corns book "Russian Roulette" is a must read for everybody. Too bad, that book fwvinson Jun 2020 #13
Well, this happened... babylonsister Jun 2020 #14
Women's March 2017 ahlnord Jun 2020 #19
"Russia, if you're listening...." RT Atlanta Jun 2020 #15
Bolton really turned his back on America by not testifying. He had his chance. Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #16
Bolton came, he witnessed, he slithered, he wrote. Boo. Baked Potato Jun 2020 #17
Time for a new Jon McNaughton fantasy painting Blue Owl Jun 2020 #21

Botany

(70,489 posts)
1. Russian in November 2016 'We made America great.'"
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jun 2020

“On November 9, 2016, a sleepless night was ahead of us. And when around 8 a.m. the most important result of our work arrived, we uncorked a tiny bottle of champagne…took one gulp each and looked into each other’s eyes…We uttered almost in unison: ‘We made America great.'”)

****

Trump was installed by Vlad/Russia. He was never elected.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
3. I am the very model of a modern Major-sellout
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:28 AM
Jun 2020

I am the very model of a modern Major-sellout,
I've information I've hidden since my bailout,
I know I'm king of assholes, and I caused the fights historical
From Afghanistan to Kabul, in order categorical;
I'm very well acquainted, too, with matters so political,
I aided Trump's insanity, both the simple and so radical,
About the Trumpie loonies I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
With many cheerful facts about Trump's official misuse.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. And Russia's working hard right now to make America "even greater."
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:43 AM
Jun 2020

The part about them popping champagne as the election results confirmed great victory is on page 34 of this Senate intelligence report.

It describes in detail how Russia targeted disinformation to their clueless idiots on both right and left to subvert the election. (Clueless idiot of course is Russia's term, not our intelligence services'.)

The IRA's information warfare campaign also responded to real-world political
events. For example, the IRA promoted multiple stories and narratives calling into question the
state of Hillary Clinton's health after she fell ill at a September 11 memorial service in New
York City in September 2016. IRA influence operatives posted phrased content on Twitter using
hashtags that made the content easily discoverable to other Twitter users searching for content
related to Clinton's health, including #HillarySickAtGroundZero, #ClintonCpllapse,
#ZombieHillary, and #SickHillary. According to researchers at Clemson University, IRA
accounts tweeted these hashtags hundreds of times. As one of those researchers~ Darren Linvill points out:

You can see the peak times they tweet. You can see that they shift from hour to
hour. One hour, they'll tweet their left-wing accounts, and the next hour they'll
tweet their right-wing accounts.-. . . You can see very clearly that it is one
organization, and it has applied human capital as is needed, depending on what's
happening politically, what current events are.


https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume2.pdf

We can't underestimate what they're doing now unless we want to be even more shocked and frightened than need be. There's going to be more bad.

At least the anti-Democrat, anti-democracy, illiberal leftists don't seem to be the assets they were when they played a critical role in throwing the nation to the Republicans. Just checked a LW dissident forum, still leaderless and flopping unhappily on the bank. So far the real investment seems to be in RW civil disorder.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,321 posts)
18. Somehow, we have to overwhelm and drown them out.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe ridicule, rage and information to counter disinformation will be enough.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. What they did in 2016 doesn't seem a fraction as effective now,
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:49 PM
Jun 2020

countered by their own monster creation.

I don't think ridicule will work against election subversion of many types, though.

Russia's been promising chaos, and we're living through some right now. Somehow I don't think Russia imagined the event they waited to opportunistically build disaster around was going to be the beginning of great social advance instead, peaceful demonstrators enormously outnumbering violent seditionists. (Surprise!) But they can't control everything, and they're still working on the violent civil unrest part.

Even though no one's admitted it, I strongly suspect the really spectacular "chaos" around the Iowa primary was part of what they bragged they were creating. Primaries typically have plenty of glitches, but when do they fail so completely, much less one that's kicking off the long-awaited Democratic Party nomination with the whole nation watching? IA's new system had a lot of defects, which infiltrators could augment and turn into networks full of anchors perched hopped-up and primed -- to suddenly have zero results to report, nothing but breakdown to discuss. Which they did, for days.

I also believe Russia and the Republicans are working together toward overlapping goals, the degree and means of their formal collusion in question, but not that it's happening.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
7. K and R...thank you.. Corn's ananlysis & revelations are right on..outstanding post, perhaps most -
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jun 2020

important to me is this paragraph, paragraph 2 of original post......:

According to Trump’s own top intelligence officials, Moscow is currently trying to intervene in the 2020 campaign. Both FBI Director Chris Wray and Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe have said so in congressional testimony, without providing details about the ongoing covert Russian efforts. So one obvious question is, what is Trump doing about this? The answer, per Bolton, is nothing.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
8. Bolton's silence helped the Russians
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jun 2020

...as well. He had a chance to impact the safety of the 2020 elections and he sold us out for a mess of maggots.

He's about as patriotic as a Confederate Soldier.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
9. While it is a..."a mess of maggots"...it is a warning "now" , as opposed to "after the election.."
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:07 PM
Jun 2020

Perhaps this warning for is worth Bolton getting...."a mess of maggots."......maybe...?

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
10. Well, we know what broke Big Dummy's spell in his case
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jun 2020

Once you wake up to what a malignant narcissist is, you have two options: run like hell or try to keep a low profile and survive on a minute to minute basis. The prudent thing is to run. Staying around destroys one's soul.

I don't think he had much of a soul to destroy, honestly, but he did have enough of a sense of self preservation to know if he stayed, it would be all over forever.

None of this is anything most of us didn't already know, especially if we read this and other non sycophantic message boards. Big Dummy is a malignant narcissist. He can't be changed and he can't be educated and he needs to go before we find ourselves in a shooting war we are going to lose.

 

fwvinson

(488 posts)
13. I feel that David Corns book "Russian Roulette" is a must read for everybody. Too bad, that book
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jun 2020

wasn't examined, by the news outlets, extensively in 2016. Democrats, including me, are too weak and silent. The protests against everything Trump and Republican should have started in 2016, as soon as Trumps fat ass came slithering down that f**king elevator.

babylonsister

(171,056 posts)
14. Well, this happened...
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 12:49 PM
Jun 2020

The Women's March[13][14][15][a] was a worldwide protest on January 21, 2017, the day after the inauguration of President Donald Trump. Tensions rose due to his statements, considered by many as anti-women or otherwise offensive.[13][19] It was the largest single-day protest in U.S. history.[20]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Women%27s_March

ahlnord

(91 posts)
19. Women's March 2017
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:26 PM
Jun 2020

I was there. It was massive, spontaneous and peaceful. No one was brandishing an AR-15. No one threw Molotov cocktails or smashed windows. No one died. Nevertheless, emotion was high and intense. We were all alarmed at the new reality of a Trump presidency. It has been harrowing. We cannot survive 4 more years.

RT Atlanta

(2,517 posts)
15. "Russia, if you're listening...."
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:02 PM
Jun 2020

Should continue to be shouted from the highest rooftops.

All the republicans that enabled this mofo are part of a continuing criminal conspiracy and their status as elected officials should NOT shield them from liability.

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