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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,957 posts)
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:14 PM Jun 2020

Trump says that World War I ended because soldiers got too sick to fight in 1917 pandemic

Donald Trump is no longer shuffling out to do the multiple-hour free association test that passed for a briefing on COVID-19. So he no longer has the cameras of every network focused on him as he explains how everything is “totally under control,” or how “it miraculously goes away,” or when he repeatedly insists that “this is just like flu.” We’re no longer getting a briefing on how good it would be to “clean out our insides” with an injection of bleach, and no longer being pushed to take a malaria drug without evidence of benefit. But just because the briefings have disappeared doesn’t mean that Donald Trump is sounding one bit more sensible.

In two new interviews—one with Sean Hannity, and another with the Wall Street Journal—Trump picks up the slack in distributing generic misinformation, absolute lies, and statements so irrational they’re actually painful. Did you know that World War I ended because the soldiers got too sick to fight? It’s true! Well, no. It’s not. But Trump did say it. Let’s get started ...

Trump’s phone interview with Hannity is, like all things Trump, shambling, rambling, and way too long. Fortunately, CNN has distilled the essence of the call into a series of statements that show just how other-side-of-looking-glass Trumpland really is.

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Trump then explains how the Spanish Flu happened in 1917 and how the flu "[p]robably ended World War I, because all the soldiers, they were—they were so sick." Which is a level of ignorance that would be staggering in a third grader. Trump missed the date, the order of events, and everything else about the last great pandemic. You might think that considering he’s now watched over the death of more Americans than the entire 1918-1919 flu season, he might be studying those events. You would be wrong.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/6/18/1954131/-Trump-says-that-World-War-I-ended-because-soldiers-got-too-sick-to-fight-in-1917-pandemic?detail=emaildkre


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Trump says that World War I ended because soldiers got too sick to fight in 1917 pandemic (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 OP
Obama, and, to be fair, probably even Bush Jr. would have already read greenjar_01 Jun 2020 #1
I don't know how the WWII statements help him. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #2
Except that WWI (not II) was over in November of 1918, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #5
Obviously I'm not presidential material. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #8
But much more than some folks I can think of... The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #9
Such a low bar. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #10
You might have your wars mixed up. Tipperary Jun 2020 #11
Yes as I have been told already. Thanks. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #12
Dear Leader Pignuts gets his history from alt-right memes online. Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #3
WTF!! Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #4
What ended World War I no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #6
Actually, he's not entirely correct but he's not entirely incorrect. HotTeaBag Jun 2020 #7
 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
1. Obama, and, to be fair, probably even Bush Jr. would have already read
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:17 PM
Jun 2020

most of the books on the 1918 pandemic over the last several months, if they hadn't read them before.

Trump spouts out nonsense that indicates he gravely misunderstood a 2 minute slideshow on it.

We're in the worst fucking timeline. He's an idiot. I mean jeez, you'd think his prime voting blocks - older military obsessed white dudes who buy all the military history books - would be embarrassed of this shit by now. They can recite from memory the order of battle for the First Day on the Somme while their Idiot Leader doesn't have the slightest clue what happened during WWI. Aren't they humiliated?

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
2. I don't know how the WWII statements help him.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jun 2020

So, leaving them in trenches killed them.
That’s why we will jam folks into a stadium.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
5. Except that WWI (not II) was over in November of 1918,
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jun 2020

the flu epidemic started in 1918, not 1917, and lasted into 1920.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. WTF!!
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jun 2020

Boy needs a History lesson like 60 years ago. Forget it,he would have been so friggin stoned it would have just been a waste of time

no_hypocrisy

(46,094 posts)
6. What ended World War I
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jun 2020

In 1918, the infusion of American troops and resources into the western front finally tipped the scale in the Allies’ favor. Germany signed an armistice agreement with the Allies on November 11, 1918.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/world-war-i-ends

Professor David Stevenson explains how the war came to an end, and why Germany accepted the harsh terms of the armistice.
To understand how and why the First World War terminated, we should remember why it failed to end sooner. In its middle years the conflict became a triple stalemate, at once military (neither side could achieve a breakthrough), diplomatic (the two sides’ objectives diverged too widely to allow peace through compromise), and domestic political (until the Bolshevik Revolution of November 1917, governments in all the Great Power belligerents remained committed to victory). In contrast, on the Eastern Front the crucial development, which enabled Soviet Russia’s withdrawal from the war (formalised by the signing of the Brest-Litovsk peace treaty of March 1918), was that a majority of the Bolshevik leaders was willing to concede all the Central Powers’ demands rather than risk being overthrown. In any case, much of the Russian army deserted after the Bolshevik takeover, rendering organised resistance impossible. Even so, the Brest-Litovsk treaty did not halt operations. In the summer of 1918, the Central Powers overran the Baltic coast, Ukraine and the Crimea, and sent troops to Finland and Georgia. Right up until November, hundreds of thousands of their forces stayed in the east.

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Lots of good information at this site: https://www.bl.uk/world-war-one/articles/how-the-first-world-war-ended

 

HotTeaBag

(1,206 posts)
7. Actually, he's not entirely correct but he's not entirely incorrect.
Fri Jun 19, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jun 2020

The 'Spanish' flu did take a horrific toll on soldiers during the First World War.

More American soldiers died of it, and pneumonia than on the battlefields.

It's not however the reason the war ended.

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