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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI never heard of the Tulsa race massacre of 1921 until this week.
Never heard about it in many years of school, never heard it mentioned.
The Tulsa race massacre (also called the Tulsa race riot, the Greenwood Massacre, or the Black Wall Street Massacre) took place on May 31 and June 1, 1921, when mobs of white residents attacked black residents and businesses of the Greenwood District in Tulsa, Oklahoma. It has been called "the single worst incident of racial violence in American history." The attack, carried out on the ground and from private aircraft, destroyed more than 35 square blocks of the districtat that time the wealthiest black community in the United States, known as "Black Wall Street".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre
Anyone else just hearing about this for the first time almost 100 years after it happened?
grantcart
(53,061 posts)I read a lot of history, it astonished me that anything that major was so successfully kept out of history books and the news.
I was impressed that the modern Tulsa was earnest in trying to find the truth.
shanti
(21,675 posts)if you'd like to know more.
Nevilledog
(51,005 posts)shanti
(21,675 posts)should make this program free for everyone.
Nevilledog
(51,005 posts)WhiskeyWulf
(569 posts)Nevilledog
(51,005 posts)Pachamama
(16,884 posts)....what he was referring to or that it meant.
He explained and I was stunned and couldnt understand why it wasnt a National Holiday.
My excuse is that I was raised in Germany and I just assumed that I didnt know because I didnt have it in school like Americans....Wrong....turns out the white Americans never learned and didnt know. Over the years it just became another thing that for me was a testimony to the fact that racism was alive and never went away and that equality in America was not true and that there was a class based system here and Blacks were not at the top. I also felt that the US education system was grossly lacking in its teachings and that politicians had failed in making this a National Day of Remembrance.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Apparently the series is where a lot of people first heard of the massacre. It certainly wasn't taught in school.
napi21
(45,806 posts)I'm nt a black woman but I've worked with many who became my friends. Something that awful should not have been forgotten by anyone, but especially be the people who did all the harm. It's really sad that we white people have done in our past and in many cases, are still doing. At least from me, I'M SO SORRY!
TlalocW
(15,374 posts)And would not have learned about Juneteenth if I hadn't been hired to twist balloons for the celebration one year. I wouldn't have learned about the riots if I hadn't done decor for various events for the Greenwood Cultural Center, which has a lot of info on it.
TlalocW
stillcool
(32,626 posts)it has made me realize how very little I do know. Growing up in the 60's-70's, and having my life experiences, convinced me that my knowledge of racism was accurate. Just today, my mind opened to the fact that I've never gone beneath the surface. Perhaps it's fear. There's so much emotion that bubbles up. It's like those people that go on tours of Plantations and don't want to hear about slaves. It bothers their perception.
katmondoo
(6,454 posts)brush
(53,740 posts)in those days. Rosewood, Fla, St Louis, Mo, Elaine, Ark, Chicago, Springfield, Ill (the Springfield riot itself spawned a host of imitators: whites shouted Give em Springfield! during attacks on African Americans
the Illinois State Register reported, At Auburn, Thayer, Virden, Girard, Pawnee, Spaulding, Buffalo, Riverton, Pana, Edinburg, Taylorville, Pleasant Plains and a score of other places in central Illinois) and others. Google them. And no compensation by insurance companies or cities or states. One reason why black families have a tenth of the wealth of white families. Millions of dollars of wealth that would've been passed down to children was destroyed by racists with no compensation.
https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/springfield-massacre/
Sorta like the 250 years of unpaid, dawn-to-dusk labor during enslavement. But that's another story, as are the jim crow years on up to Minn. and Atlanta right now.
Reparations, anyone?
brush
(53,740 posts)from mainstream history, purposely of course.
spicysista
(1,663 posts)How else would the myths created to protect the innocence of certain Americans survive? I've been in such a state as of late. Enraged doesn't begin to touch it. I hope you're taking care of your whole self.
brush
(53,740 posts)SMC22307
(8,090 posts)that featured the massacre. Think it something like Boss: The Black Experience in Business but am not certain. Regardless, what happened was absolutely shameful.
Initech
(100,036 posts)But it did force me to read up on the subject.
sweetloukillbot
(10,971 posts)After watching it I told my wife and she said she had visited the museum in Tulsa, when she was there on business.
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)The Past, Present And Future Of Durhams Black Wall Street
https://www.wunc.org/post/past-present-and-future-durham-s-black-wall-street
spicysista
(1,663 posts)Black Wall Street
This is a good lecture on the history of Juneteenth, if you're interested.
ret5hd
(20,482 posts)if in fact there is any confusion, Juneteenth and the Tulsa Race Riot are two different things.
If there was no confusion, carry on and ignore this post.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)I had never heard of the Tulsa massacre till this week, but I knew of Juneteenth because I used to live in Chicago and there was a parade there every year.
sanatanadharma
(3,687 posts)I was in college in 1968 when MLK was killed.
Many cities saw riots.
I wrote a class project paper about race riots.
I hope in my research (pre-internet) I learned of and wrote about the Tulsa massacre in that paper about numerous white race riot/ massacres of black neighborhoods.
American history.
At 74 years I am so sad.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)were kidnapped and enslaved by a foreign power. Then they were beaten, raped, tortured, sold like cattle and worked to death by that foreign power.
All the while there was nothing they could do to stop it.
Makes one wonder, doesnt it? Sounds familiar, doesnt it?
Igel
(35,274 posts)We had the Barbary Wars. That was the first few years of the 19th century, but for a lot of the time the US was occupied with the British and its own internal problems ... And didn't have a navy worth crap for projecting force and bringing the human piracy to a halt. There was a genre of Americans taken as white slaves with the concomitant outrage, but not much to do about it but be outraged. Until we had a navy.
But that wasn't a new thing. It affected Americans more than most because we were weak at the time and didn't put an end to it--or institutionalize the payment of ransom. Did you know that Miguel Cervantes was held as a prisoner, and the options were to sell him as a slave or treat him nicely in exchange for ransom? Again, the Barbary "pirates" (who made it a point of faith--jihad, they called it--to not attack Muslim ships, just Xians.) Or that there were slave raids up into Ireland? Slavs are called "Slavs" because they were a frequent target of raids for slaves. There are books on the history of Europeans and Americans being taken as slaves in North Africa. (People are very careful at this point to not confuse black sub-Saharan Africa with Africa that was Muslim, largely Berber and Arab by ancestry.) There was nothing special about whites that kept them from being enslaved. (More than a few Slavs were held as slaves by whites. Racializing the practice came late in the slave "game." Before that there was superiority of culture or of religion or just taking slaves because they could with no justification except might and "need". American exceptionalism has more than one application.)
They were mostly men who were held, but it stands to reason some were raped. And some women, depending on the circumstances, were certainly captured and carried along--sometimes few, if ships were raided, sometimes more if villages were rounded up and either killed or hauled away as booty. That would have included kids.
Life was brutish.
Then again, if you count pressing sailors into military service as "kidnapped and enslaved", then we had one contributing cause of the War of 1812.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)In fact, one of my favorite YouTube channels was recently discussing it (in the last few months). There is a current effort to try to locate some of the mass graves.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It is not something that was ever in our history books, but should have been.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Definitely more than a year or two but certainly not long enough that something of this magnitude warrants.
And I'm over 50.
wellst0nev0ter
(7,509 posts)When Oklahoma decided to deny reparations to living survivors of the Tulsa massacre.
mantis49
(812 posts)It was featured as the opening scenes on HBO's The Watchmen. The way it was portrayed struck me as possibly historical, so I looked it up and OH MY GOD, it really happened.
I'm 66 years old, had no clue about it. I'm an avid reader and have learned much history since my school years and learned that much of what I was taught was BS. But this had totally escaped me until the opening scenes of that series!