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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHad you heard of the Tulsa massacre before Idiot announced his rally?
I don't remember ever hearing about it.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)Anyone who studies much about American history knows of the Tulsa massacre (often labeled a 'race riot') to cover up the atrocities.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)TexasProgresive
(12,148 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Maru Kitteh
(28,303 posts)Happy Hoosier
(7,083 posts)Mike 03
(16,616 posts)Just a couple of years ago. I was not taught about this in school.
a kennedy
(29,467 posts)Liberal Jesus Freak
(1,451 posts)But only because it was referenced in a novel I read a few years ago. I remember googling it because I didnt think it could be true. 😢
murielm99
(30,657 posts)Then I did some research.
I learned from a novel as well that Central Park in New York City used to be a black community. They were thrown out of there.
Walleye
(30,729 posts)Didnt hear about it in school
hlthe2b
(101,730 posts)northoftheborder
(7,566 posts)Couldn't exist without PBS and NPR
Zoonart
(11,750 posts)SMC22307
(8,088 posts)Squinch
(50,774 posts)marybourg
(12,540 posts)Pachamama
(16,875 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)There was nothing about it the history books of my youth.
Cirque du So-What
(25,812 posts)Sure as shit didnt hear about it in school (72 grad).
SaveOurDemocracy
(4,398 posts)I see some, in this thread, mention a discussion a couple years ago. Maybe that's what I'm remembering.
Time flies when your continually horrified by this misadministration.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)The first time I learned about it was from the Watchmen series last year. ☹️
teamster633
(2,029 posts)bobbieinok
(12,858 posts)txwhitedove
(3,922 posts)still_one
(91,968 posts)It is more important that people know about it now, and realize this has been part of America since its inception, and needs to be fought so it never happens again
Brother Buzz
(36,217 posts)Was a time, most all textbooks came from Texas, and they selectively distorted history to fit their narrative.
How Texas Inflicts Bad Textbooks on Us
Gail Collins JUNE 21, 2012 ISSUE
What happens in Texas doesnt stay in Texas when it comes to textbooks
No matter where you live, if your children go to public schools, the textbooks they use were very possibly written under Texas influence. If they graduated with a reflexive suspicion of the concept of separation of church and state and an unexpected interest in the contributions of the National Rifle Association to American history, you know who to blame.
When it comes to meddling with school textbooks, Texas is both similar to other states and totally different. Its hardly the only one that likes to fiddle around with the material its kids study in class. The difference is due to size4.8 million textbook-reading schoolchildren as of 2011and the peculiarities of its system of government, in which the State Board of Education is selected in elections that are practically devoid of voters, and wealthy donors can chip in unlimited amounts of money to help their favorites win.
Those favorites are not shrinking violets. In 2009, the nation watched in awe as the state board worked on approving a new science curriculum under the leadership of a chair who believed that evolution is hooey. In 2010, the subject was social studies and the teachers tasked with drawing up course guidelines were supposed to work in consultation with experts added on by the board, one of whom believed that the income tax was contrary to the word of God in the scriptures.
Ever since the 1960s, the selection of schoolbooks in Texas has been a target for the religious right, which worried that schoolchildren were being indoctrinated in godless secularism, and political conservatives who felt that their kids were being given way too much propaganda about the positive aspects of the federal government. Mel Gabler, an oil company clerk, and his wife, Norma, who began their textbook crusade at their kitchen table, were the leaders of the first wave. They brought their supporters to State Board of Education meetings, unrolling their scroll of shame, which listed objections they had to the content of the current reading material. At times, the scroll was fifty-four feet long. Products of the Texas school system have the Gablers to thank for the fact that at one point the New Deal was axed from the timeline of significant events in American history.
<more>
https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2012/06/21/how-texas-inflicts-bad-textbooks-on-us/
Lars39
(26,093 posts)Takket
(21,425 posts)Nor had I ever heard of Juneteeth before this year. I asked my wife last night.... how did I just miss what a major holiday this is? And she told me she had never heard of it either!
UpInArms
(51,253 posts)My mother taught me about Juneteenth when I was quite young ...
I have been saying (for sometime now) that our world seems to have acquired collective amnesia since about the time the microwave became a household appliance.
That was in the early 80s and I credit it to Raygun and the emergence of Fox.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,281 posts)a lot of racial unrest in the '20s, but this specific instance of it was something that apparently was not widely reported at the time, and unfortunately was allowed to fall into the oubliette of history. It was not taught in any history class I ever had.
ego_nation
(123 posts)I had to Google it as I couldnt believe it could it have been a real event and never learned about it before now (and Im middle aged).
OverBurn
(935 posts)KY_EnviroGuy
(14,483 posts)It's been almost 60-years since I had American history and it may have been white-washed away from our text books back then. And, at my age I suffer from CRS......
I appreciated this Tweet from Rev. Barber:
Link to tweet
Text:
Some are calling for Juneteenth to be a national holiday. How about we go further & pass healthcare & living wages for all, a fully restored Voting Rights Act & reparations, etc. Please dont just ask for a holiday. Lets make it a holy day of repentance & reconstruction.
10:56 AM · Jun 19, 2020
KY.........
LeftInTX
(24,560 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,816 posts)Pachamama
(16,875 posts)It wasnt until I watched Watchmen that I heard any reference to it. I then looked it up to see if this was real or fiction.
I was shocked to read all about it and that I had never learned in US History about it - not even AP US History class in high school when I came to the US from Germany.
handmade34
(22,755 posts)and shame on our Education System for not teaching everyone
planetc
(7,720 posts)Philostopher
(4,465 posts)Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I had
The Blue Flower
(5,420 posts)nt
Stallion
(6,473 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)UpInArms
(51,253 posts)I had known about it for many years (20+)
Are you also aware of Rosewood, Florida?
I Rosewood massacre
Before the massacre, the town of Rosewood had been a quiet, primarily black, self-sufficient whistle stop on the Seaboard Air Line Railway. Trouble began when white men from several nearby towns lynched a black Rosewood resident because of accusations that a white woman in nearby Sumner had been assaulted by a black drifter. A mob of several hundred whites combed the countryside hunting for black people and burned almost every structure in Rosewood. Survivors from the town hid for several days in nearby swamps until they were evacuated by train and car to larger towns. No arrests were made for what happened in Rosewood. The town was abandoned by its former black and white residents; none ever moved back, they were never compensated for their land and the town ceased to exist.
Although the rioting was widely reported around the United States at the time, few official records documented the event. Survivors, their descendants, and the perpetrators remained silent about Rosewood for decades. Sixty years after the rioting, the story of Rosewood was revived in major media when several journalists covered it in the early 1980s. Survivors and their descendants organized to sue the state for having failed to protect Rosewood's black community. In 1993, the Florida Legislature commissioned a report on the incident. As a result of the findings, Florida became the first U.S. state to compensate survivors and their descendants for damages incurred because of racial violence. The incident was the subject of a 1997 feature film directed by John Singleton. In 2004, the state designated the site of Rosewood as a Florida Heritage Landmark.
CousinIT
(9,151 posts)and what it meant. NONE of that was taught in school when I went (years ago). I learned the ACTUAL history of the US much later from other sources.
Quemado
(1,262 posts)Almost similar to the US-Mexican War of 1846-1848, textbooks, teacher, and schools in the past did not cover certain events.
GoCubsGo
(32,061 posts)sheshe2
(83,356 posts)trackfan
(3,650 posts)A guy at work told me about it. (About 10-15 years ago).
struggle4progress
(118,041 posts)Sunsky
(1,737 posts)unblock
(51,974 posts)Interesting show in its own right, but the drama opens with the Tulsa massacre.
cayugafalls
(5,631 posts)I started doing a lot of soul searching and research once the protests started and that included a lot of history reading.
I read first of Rosewood and that started me down the rabbit hole.
The Elaine Massacre, The Atlanta Race Riots, The Red Summer, The East St. Louis Massacre, etc...there is so much more.
We moved to Texas when I was 10 from Florida so my education was quite lacking in American history.
Edited to add link to the Elaine Massacre;
JHB
(37,133 posts)Some of the coverage of the Rosewood massacre prompted by the movie also went into what happened in Tulsa. Before then I'd picked up on how in the '40s and earlier a "race riot" usually translated into whites tearing up a black neighborhood, but it was a smattering of factoids, not something I had firm knowledge about.
Luciferous
(6,068 posts)SMC22307
(8,088 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,112 posts)Trying to remember when I first heard of it. Think it was ten to twenty years ago. It wasn't taught in school.
Jirel
(1,993 posts)If you are often in activist circles, this is something that comes up every so often.
Vogon_Glory
(9,086 posts)I think I first heard of it only as a sentence or two in a school history textbook as something that occurred in the early 1920s. They called it a race riot back then.
I learned more over the decades since. I had no idea as to what set it off. I had no idea as to the scope and violence of it until the mid-1990s. I was pretty sure that people fifty to seventy years later didnt like talking about causes or what happened.
essme
(1,207 posts)Google Wilmington, NC too- that one is horrible
Liberal In Texas
(13,457 posts)Probably on NPR. I seem to remember they did quite a through story. May have been in conjunction with a book having been just published about it.
Wounded Bear
(58,442 posts)we didn't get a lot of the events that were whitewashed out of the history books back in the day.
I have, though, read some about it as an adult. It should be included in more history classes.
Dagstead Bumwood
(3,528 posts)and only within the past year or two.
Maeve
(42,226 posts)Have also seen it on my FB feed every February--Black storytelling friends
Magoo48
(4,660 posts)Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)TlalocW
(15,359 posts)Not a native though. I'm now in Kansas City but still have friends there.
I twist balloons and do balloon decor and have decorated the Greenwood Cultural Center several times for various groups, and they have a lot of information on it. I gleaned what I could over several visits to decorate then just went there to read all that I could.
TlalocW
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Video posted here.
area51
(11,868 posts)usedtobedemgurl
(1,100 posts)Yes, all of the magats lining up without masks will be, essentially a massacre.....wait, oh, you meant.....yes, I heard about that!
Voltaire2
(12,632 posts)cherish44
(2,566 posts)I don't think I ever learned about it in school myself but found out about it while researching topics for Black History Month for my 5th grade class. It absolutely turned my stomach. My class was about half African American but being that young I choose not to teach it because it was just so upsetting. Definitely should be taught in high school though.
malaise
(267,845 posts)I first heard about it from an African-American political scientist
Iggo
(47,489 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 21, 2020, 12:53 PM - Edit history (2)
So now hes made the Tulsa Race Massacre famous and he's made Juneteenth famous. If he doesnt watch out, therell be reparations by Election Day.
MineralMan
(146,192 posts)Not in school, of course, but through my own reading.
live love laugh
(13,009 posts)Marrah_Goodman
(1,586 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)electric_blue68
(14,623 posts)Since I read a lot about black-american history I found out about it oh, 15 - 20 years ago. Juneteenth about the same. Rosewood probably through NPR or WNYC about 15 yrs ago. ?️
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)Grew up in Dallas and went all 4 years of hs to a private christian School run by fundamentalist baptists. I don't recall ever hearing of this until a few weeks ago.
RichardRay
(2,611 posts)dmr
(28,321 posts)During the Civil Rights era, which my dad said was long overdue.
dmr
(28,321 posts)He said it was a criminal conspiracy; very sad and frightening. What people are capable of doing, especially otherwise "good" people. I was just a young girl.
This was during the civil rights era, which my dad said said was long overdue. He told me to put my feet in their shoes, and let my conscience guide me -- and that is something I've done my whole life, and what I've taught my son. Boy, I miss my dad.