Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:40 PM

Protest in Tulsa plays RIGHT into the mad-maniplular's

(tiny) hands. Their big news... "horrible. horrible" people outside."

I have never seen a more masterful but sinister display of spin, ever. Just like the Netflix documentary chronicled in NYC, he is the master at personal PR.

IMHO, if you want to be honest, we are in for a huge uphill climb here. How do you fight against utter unabashed lies and spin and mistruths?

Say everything is great, but if you pull away, and think big picture, unless someone hires some brilliant ad men and psychiatrists and media savvy and great strategists, we are in for 4 more horrible years.

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Protest in Tulsa plays RIGHT into the mad-maniplular's (Original post)	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	OP
Don't think so.	we can do it	Jun 2020	#1
Ok	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#25
And where are you seeing proof of these protesters doing horrible horrible things?	Nevilledog	Jun 2020	#2
They need zero proof. Just pictures	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#5
And where are these pictures?	Nevilledog	Jun 2020	#7
MSNBC, and trust me Fox is cropping as we speak.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#9
Only picture I've seen is a white guy foaming at the mouth yelling at a black guy.	Nevilledog	Jun 2020	#11
Ok	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#26
nope, no pics like that	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#88
Majority of Americans will not vote for trump this year	rockfordfile	Jun 2020	#3
He doesn't need a majority of Americans.	Ron Green	Jun 2020	#6
No but a majority will vote for Biden and that will be enough.	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2020	#14
Please rephrase or clarify.	Laelth	Jun 2020	#40
No.	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2020	#45
I didn't disagree with you.	Laelth	Jun 2020	#47
She did win.	MrsCoffee	Jun 2020	#101
But Again, Not A Majority	ProfessorGAC	Jun 2020	#111
+1. And he knows EXACTLY where he needs what. And	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#28
He is going to lose. This is nothing like 2016.	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#49
So far the protest is peaceful. People are yelling, but its not violent	tulipsandroses	Jun 2020	#4
But even though you are of course right, truth, on his side DOES NOT matter.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#17
His side is shrinking. No reason for doom and gloom.	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#51
I just tuned into MSNBC & they're saying DT disappointed in turnout & the cancelation of a	napi21	Jun 2020	#8
Tulsa PD Twitter Feed Says BLM Protest is peaceful	tulipsandroses	Jun 2020	#10
I don't event get wat you're saying...	Dream Girl	Jun 2020	#12
Neither do I.	smirkymonkey	Jun 2020	#15
Did you watch his rally? He is the most profound spin master ever to exist	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#18
You must be joking	SoonerPride	Jun 2020	#20
Ok.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#24
He's completely full of shit, and the only people that are going to buy it are the cult	smirkymonkey	Jun 2020	#21
Ok.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#23
Baloney	jcgoldie	Jun 2020	#27
Only for some one dumber than him.	Dream Girl	Jun 2020	#33
Which is most of the country	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#34
No it isn't.	Cha	Jun 2020	#50
He was pathetic. He was covered in sweat and looked sick. His speech	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#52
lol yeah no	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#89
Laura basically always finds a way to tell us that Trump's winning	greenjar_01	Jun 2020	#44
I tried to.. until this was posted.. smh	Cha	Jun 2020	#53
Ooooof	greenjar_01	Jun 2020	#72
It was a disaster for him.	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#54
.....	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#90
It's the same old FUD this person always dispenses.	Codeine	Jun 2020	#84
This is just a bad take.	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2020	#13
The narrative where? On CNN? MSNBC? Missing the point.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#19
Yes.	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2020	#32
Of course you get it... It's not about us or CNN or MSNBC its	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#36
The minds he manipulate are already manipulated.	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2020	#39
None of the sources low info's look to, but appreciate you pulling	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#55
I guess the way I see it is this way...	Drunken Irishman	Jun 2020	#61
I would totally agree if approval #s were stable. But they have not been.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#66
I watched the coverage on both CNN and MSNBC. It wasnt good for Trump	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#56
Yeah, but very on brand.	BannonsLiver	Jun 2020	#82
Anybody who falls for anything Trump says about the protesters tonight is already voting for him	StarfishSaver	Jun 2020	#16
True. But if you listened to him it is very obvious that we are	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#22
Oh please. BIDEN IS FINE.	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#58
Hope u are right. You watched the speech, right.?	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#71
Post removed	Post removed	Jun 2020	#92
Yes I did. Trump was awful. He was sweaty and really said nothibg. He got	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#114
"Master" manipulator? PLZ. He can't even master baiter anymore	Maru Kitteh	Jun 2020	#79
Well, yes, you ARE pushing RW talking points	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#91
I was watching Dipshits rally which on Fox. I was interpreting what he	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#112
I don't see that at all. He is a failed president. The economy alone will destroy him...	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#115
Their arguments will come up lame.	blogslut	Jun 2020	#29
Don't you see I know that it's BS, you know that, MM does as well	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#35
Only those already voting for him, will care what he said.	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#59
I think we will be prepared. I am sure dump is going to go all in and get very nasty.	cayugafalls	Jun 2020	#30
The Lincoln Project has his number, Justice Roberts is worried about his legacy. Polls are good.	njhoneybadger	Jun 2020	#31
No. This rally was a complete failure.	Laelth	Jun 2020	#37
I thought peddling right wing talking points on DU wasn't permitted. (Nt)	FreepFryer	Jun 2020	#38
It's so weird! pumping up BLOTUS on DU as some kind	Cha	Jun 2020	#60
My days of not taking some folks on DU seriously are certainly coming to a middle.	FreepFryer	Jun 2020	#62
lol	Cha	Jun 2020	#63
PS.. BLOTUS sounds like a Fucking Idiot.. Not a "master mind"..	Cha	Jun 2020	#65
It's almost as if the OP wants to nullify this important Trump weakness moment. nt	FreepFryer	Jun 2020	#67
Right.. Not working though.	Cha	Jun 2020	#70
You can unscrew a lightbulb, but not Trump. Sad. (n/t)	FreepFryer	Jun 2020	#74
Wtf. I am not peddling any such thing. Only a disrupter would say that.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#75
Have a cookie. (Nt)	FreepFryer	Jun 2020	#76
hahahahaha	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#94
The OP has made a career out of it.	Codeine	Jun 2020	#85
You better believe it!	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#95
ROFL	greenjar_01	Jun 2020	#104
Ha! Sweet memories. nt	Codeine	Jun 2020	#107
At least it's not a "Pelosi will NEVER impeach" bash	StarfishSaver	Jun 2020	#106
Good idea! Nov 15 2017 will live in sadness. Thank you Steve Cohen! DJT	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#110
It isn't	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#93
Laura. Have a drink. n/t	Laelth	Jun 2020	#41
You too, but you have to take head out of sand first:)	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#68
I am open to what you have to say.	Laelth	Jun 2020	#69
This message was self-deleted by its author	BannonsLiver	Jun 2020	#83
How else could one write such an OP? And then actually post it.	MrsCoffee	Jun 2020	#99
It's called analyzing your opponent.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#113
Don't overestimate your opponent.	MrsCoffee	Jun 2020	#122
What are you going on about?	GulfCoast66	Jun 2020	#42
How rude & demeaning - "what are you going on about"	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#78
Not rude, direct, and answer the poster's question	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#96
Just read it... Extremely pointed. If you watched his speech	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#109
Hopefully this one hit him where it hurts.	Initech	Jun 2020	#43
No it went very badly for Trump,.	Demsrule86	Jun 2020	#46
hahahA!	SiliconValley_Dem	Jun 2020	#48
Laura	vercetti2021	Jun 2020	#57
Wtf.. you relax.. funny how when no one has anything serious	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#73
Wasn't that	vercetti2021	Jun 2020	#77
Did you forgot your own username? nt	Codeine	Jun 2020	#86
Probably	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#97
As long as there weren't brawls between white nationalists, antifa, BLM, anarchists, and thrill seek	LeftInTX	Jun 2020	#64
That's a really bad take, IMO....	Happy Hoosier	Jun 2020	#80
...	BannonsLiver	Jun 2020	#81
Yeah, literally none of this OP is correct	obamanut2012	Jun 2020	#87
Yes, he was diabolical and powerful last night.	tavernier	Jun 2020	#98
I'm trying to understand this point of view,	MrsCoffee	Jun 2020	#100
How rude. You don't understand we can't underestimate a master at manipulation?	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#105
Give it up already.	Codeine	Jun 2020	#108
Lol. I will leave it to you to think of him as a master of anything.	MrsCoffee	Jun 2020	#120
Self delete. nt	USALiberal	Jun 2020	#102
Lulzd.	Voltaire2	Jun 2020	#103
This didn't age well ...	StarfishSaver	Jun 2020	#116
No, it's great. Seeing exactly who disrupters are! People	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#117
Exactly	StarfishSaver	Jun 2020	#118
This OP was about a single subject - how dangerously crazy	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#119
Well we hear enough fucking bloviating about the asshole from right wingers.	MrsCoffee	Jun 2020	#121
??? Right wing praises and idolizes him. I am saying he is a dangerous	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#125
Not seeing the distinction in this thread really.	MrsCoffee	Jun 2020	#126
Right you didn't see it because people pounced	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#127
More like people thought about what you said and passionately disagreed.	MrsCoffee	Jun 2020	#128
Ya you are probably right. Not a single diss or strategy idea against the monster	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#130
Naw. n/t	demmiblue	Jun 2020	#123
A small audience in RED RED RED Tulsa should scare the living shit out of trump.	spanone	Jun 2020	#124
You give him WAY too much credit.	Tipperary	Jun 2020	#129
Master of lies and deceit and totally oblivious to truth. Master	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#131
He is a psychopath	Tipperary	Jun 2020	#133
Any objective measures from this particular instance to support your opinion?	LanternWaste	Jun 2020	#132
Rephrase please	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#134
Perhaps reply #26 holds a clue.	MrsCoffee	Jun 2020	#137
Okay, you win.	Iggo	Jun 2020	#135
Ya, but sad, not a single idea on a way to deal with a maniac opponent :(.	Laura PourMeADrink	Jun 2020	#136

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Sat Jun 20, 2020, 10:43 PM

we can do it (11,888 posts)

Protest in Tulsa plays RIGHT into the mad-maniplular's

1. Don't think so.

25. Ok

2. And where are you seeing proof of these protesters doing horrible horrible things?

5. They need zero proof. Just pictures

7. And where are these pictures?

9. MSNBC, and trust me Fox is cropping as we speak.

11. Only picture I've seen is a white guy foaming at the mouth yelling at a black guy.

26. Ok

88. nope, no pics like that

3. Majority of Americans will not vote for trump this year

6. He doesn't need a majority of Americans.

14. No but a majority will vote for Biden and that will be enough.

40. Please rephrase or clarify.

45. No.

47. I didn't disagree with you.

101. She did win.

111. But Again, Not A Majority

28. +1. And he knows EXACTLY where he needs what. And

49. He is going to lose. This is nothing like 2016.

4. So far the protest is peaceful. People are yelling, but its not violent

17. But even though you are of course right, truth, on his side DOES NOT matter.

51. His side is shrinking. No reason for doom and gloom.

8. I just tuned into MSNBC & they're saying DT disappointed in turnout & the cancelation of a

10. Tulsa PD Twitter Feed Says BLM Protest is peaceful

12. I don't event get wat you're saying...

15. Neither do I.

18. Did you watch his rally? He is the most profound spin master ever to exist

20. You must be joking

24. Ok.

21. He's completely full of shit, and the only people that are going to buy it are the cult

23. Ok.

27. Baloney

33. Only for some one dumber than him.

34. Which is most of the country

50. No it isn't.

52. He was pathetic. He was covered in sweat and looked sick. His speech

89. lol yeah no

44. Laura basically always finds a way to tell us that Trump's winning

53. I tried to.. until this was posted.. smh

72. Ooooof

54. It was a disaster for him.

90. .....

84. It's the same old FUD this person always dispenses.

13. This is just a bad take.

19. The narrative where? On CNN? MSNBC? Missing the point.

32. Yes.

36. Of course you get it... It's not about us or CNN or MSNBC its

39. The minds he manipulate are already manipulated.

55. None of the sources low info's look to, but appreciate you pulling

61. I guess the way I see it is this way...

66. I would totally agree if approval #s were stable. But they have not been.

56. I watched the coverage on both CNN and MSNBC. It wasnt good for Trump

82. Yeah, but very on brand.

16. Anybody who falls for anything Trump says about the protesters tonight is already voting for him

22. True. But if you listened to him it is very obvious that we are

58. Oh please. BIDEN IS FINE.

71. Hope u are right. You watched the speech, right.?

114. Yes I did. Trump was awful. He was sweaty and really said nothibg. He got

79. "Master" manipulator? PLZ. He can't even master baiter anymore

91. Well, yes, you ARE pushing RW talking points

112. I was watching Dipshits rally which on Fox. I was interpreting what he

115. I don't see that at all. He is a failed president. The economy alone will destroy him...

29. Their arguments will come up lame.

35. Don't you see I know that it's BS, you know that, MM does as well

59. Only those already voting for him, will care what he said.

30. I think we will be prepared. I am sure dump is going to go all in and get very nasty.

31. The Lincoln Project has his number, Justice Roberts is worried about his legacy. Polls are good.

37. No. This rally was a complete failure.

38. I thought peddling right wing talking points on DU wasn't permitted. (Nt)

60. It's so weird! pumping up BLOTUS on DU as some kind

62. My days of not taking some folks on DU seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

63. lol

65. PS.. BLOTUS sounds like a Fucking Idiot.. Not a "master mind"..

67. It's almost as if the OP wants to nullify this important Trump weakness moment. nt

70. Right.. Not working though.

74. You can unscrew a lightbulb, but not Trump. Sad. (n/t)

75. Wtf. I am not peddling any such thing. Only a disrupter would say that.

76. Have a cookie. (Nt)

94. hahahahaha