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Trump proposes a year in jail for flag burning (Original Post) JonLP24 Jun 2020 OP
Bunker Boy Bone Spurs says what? n/t Eyeball_Kid Jun 2020 #1
How about this instead Hock_Mir_Keyn_Chinek Jun 2020 #2
You 'sir,' OBVIOUSLY burned your copy of the CONSTITUTION! elleng Jun 2020 #3
Magats are the traitors.. bowing to Putin & Fascism. We are the Cha Jun 2020 #4
Apparently the POS doesn't know that burning the flag... pazzyanne Jun 2020 #5
This! Some of the ways I've seen the flag used really make me cringe... WePurrsevere Jun 2020 #16
Some of the ways I saw it used at last night's rally in Tulsa ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2020 #22
I'm old now, but I was taught in school that burning a flag is the proper way to dispose of a torn, napi21 Jun 2020 #6
Meh. Attempted distraction. He can do worse. Hekate Jun 2020 #7
What about those MAGAts pasting his face on the flag outside the arena? captain queeg Jun 2020 #8
Trump probably thinks he can use this issue like George HW Bush used it to defeat Dukakis andym Jun 2020 #9
Jeeze, this was an issue in the late 80s/early 90s when I was in high school TlalocW Jun 2020 #10
Dateline, 6/20/20 : Mike Niendorff Jun 2020 #11
how many years for destroying America's justice system? Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #12
MAGA - The flag makes a nice snot rag to Trump supporters. keithbvadu2 Jun 2020 #13
Someone should tell him that Mitch McConnell was the deciding vote that defeated Flag Burning tritsofme Jun 2020 #14
Hey Donald? FUCK YOU! Moostache Jun 2020 #15
Another day, another Executive Order. no_hypocrisy Jun 2020 #17
Yet he was previously for it until he needed to look republican sunonmars Jun 2020 #18
Then that should be for those who humped the flag too! imanamerican63 Jun 2020 #19
If we include flag rape with a 10 year prison term ok. MyNameGoesHere Jun 2020 #20
What about flag humping? fleur-de-lisa Jun 2020 #21

elleng

(130,864 posts)
3. You 'sir,' OBVIOUSLY burned your copy of the CONSTITUTION!
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 02:31 AM
Jun 2020

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

REASONING (5-4) The majority of the Court, according to Justice William Brennan, agreed with Johnson and held that flag burning constitutes a form of "symbolic speech" that is protected by the First Amendment.

Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397 (1989), was a decision by the Supreme Court of the United States that invalidated prohibitions on desecrating the American flag, which at the time were enforced in 48 of the 50 states.

Cha

(297,136 posts)
4. Magats are the traitors.. bowing to Putin & Fascism. We are the
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 02:36 AM
Jun 2020

patriots to our country & Democracy. I wish there weren't any "flag burnings".

How about.. how many years in Prison for selling our country down the river to the highest bidder?

trump isn't a symbol of our flag even if he wraps himself in it carrying a Bible While pushing Fascism. Don't let Magats own the Flag.

I love my country.. not the damn current magat occupants in power.

pazzyanne

(6,547 posts)
5. Apparently the POS doesn't know that burning the flag...
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 02:39 AM
Jun 2020

… is the only way to show respect when the flag is being retired from duty. I have taken part in several dozen flag burning ceremonies. What is disrespectful to the flag are the blankets, throws, beach towels, articles of clothing, etc. that show up at tRump's rallies.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
16. This! Some of the ways I've seen the flag used really make me cringe...
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 05:33 AM
Jun 2020

between having WWII vet dad and Girl Scouts I was taught the 'US Flag Code' as a child as was my husband (only w/Boy Scouts).

I 'personally' don't take issue with certain tasteful uses like flying it upside down to signal distress or on a tshirt but some uses like on a doormat, underwear, swimsuit, handkerchief, bumpersticker, disposable plates, sheets, etc make me shake my head. Why would someone who truly loves this country want to wipe their dirty feet, butts, noses, drag through the dirt/mud or throw in the garbage what 'is' a US Flag? A US flag doesn't have to be fabric or big and fancy to be technically a US flag.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
6. I'm old now, but I was taught in school that burning a flag is the proper way to dispose of a torn,
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 02:47 AM
Jun 2020

tattered flag. I'm just a few years older thn DT, but I'm sure he was taught that as well. Probably didn't pay attention to his teachers, same as he does today when he doesn't pay attention to anyone but himself!

andym

(5,443 posts)
9. Trump probably thinks he can use this issue like George HW Bush used it to defeat Dukakis
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 02:57 AM
Jun 2020

Between Willie Horton and Flag Burning, Bush ran a very low road campaign to win.

TlalocW

(15,380 posts)
10. Jeeze, this was an issue in the late 80s/early 90s when I was in high school
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:00 AM
Jun 2020

And what we discussed in history/government classes on slow days. Also Spanish once if I recall. I was usually the only person saying it was a free speech issue but also mocking the other side by claiming it was a distraction from Bush who had nothing to run on so oooh, look out... the skies about to turn black and the sun blotted out from all of the flag burning!

TlalocW

keithbvadu2

(36,763 posts)
13. MAGA - The flag makes a nice snot rag to Trump supporters.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:29 AM
Jun 2020

How republicans respect the flag

To Trump supporters, the flag makes a nice snot rag.

Snot rag flag behind Donald's left shoulder.

MAGA - The flag makes a nice snot rag to Trump supporters.

tritsofme

(17,376 posts)
14. Someone should tell him that Mitch McConnell was the deciding vote that defeated Flag Burning
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:32 AM
Jun 2020

Amendment in the Senate, that had already passed the House and would have been sent to the states for ratification in 2006.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
15. Hey Donald? FUCK YOU!
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 05:15 AM
Jun 2020

I love my country AND our flag...but I am most PROUD of my country when I see a fellow countryman BURN it in protest, safe in the knowledge that FREEDOM OF SPEECH MEANS SOMETHING HERE!!!

Pass your idiot law.
Warm me up a cell because I will be at 1600 PA. or in BLM square and I will burn the symbol I love in an act of defiance to idiotic despots everywhere...a flame burning bright to the world saying "NO....ALL AMERICANS HAVE NOT GONE CRAZY OR SUFFERED A STROKE....SOME OF US (MILLIONS OF US) STILL CARE!!!

sunonmars

(8,656 posts)
18. Yet he was previously for it until he needed to look republican
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:46 AM
Jun 2020
https://abc7news.com/news/trump-once-appeared-to-agree-flag-burning-was-free-expression/1633271/


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Trump Seems to Have Reversed Stance on Flag Burning
By CANDACE SMITH
Thursday, December 1, 2016

Donald Trump recently suggested that those who burn the American flag should be jailed or have their citizenship revoked -- but it appears he did not always feel that way.

In an interview done with David Letterman on Jan. 8, 2015, just months before he launched his campaign, Trump agreed with Letterman "100 percent" that flag burning is a form of expression.

As first reported by the Washington Post, the men were discussing the terrorist attack on the French satirical newspaper Charlie Hebdo. Trump mentioned that the magazine had a lot of problems, while expressing his shock that such an attack could have happened.

"Here's the example I'm always proud of as an American," Letterman countered. "People, to demonstrate, they think, we're really gonna stick it the United States. 'We're going to set fire to the flag.' "

"Yeah, right," Trump responded.

"And people get - 'Oh my God!' " Letterman said. "Well, no. If that's how you feel, go ahead and burn the flag. Because this country is far greater than that symbol, and that symbol is standing for freedom of expression."
 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
20. If we include flag rape with a 10 year prison term ok.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 07:17 AM
Jun 2020

But really TX vs. Johnson already settled this.

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