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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums***NOTE***: K-Pop story has a couple of big holes in it; No set ticket limit and the empty overflow
***NOTE***: K-Pop story has a couple of big holes in it; No set ticket limit and the empty overflow
EDIT: I looks like there was no set ticket limit so whom ever was spoofing tickets could've spoofed 2 trillion of them if they wanted to the people who wanted to be there would've shown up en masse to fill the arena if the demand was there.
NO... Do ... LET the polling companies off the hook !!
Make polling companies explain how in the hell could Red Don not fill 20,000 seats in the reddest state in the union.
Also, if it was about a static amount of tickets the overflow would've at least had 1,000 people there it had NO ONE but the take down crew.
No, this was horrible for trump seeing Oklahoma is more reliable red than Alabama yes, there are tons of black republicans in OK.
Look Obama can get 20,000 people to show up in north eastern Mississippi with 2 days notice to watch him switch shoes.
When a person is popular they will pull crowds and diverse ones too.
This was Red Don's "Open UP" rally, it has LITTLE to do with K-pop emptying the stadium they couldn't logistically do it seeing there wasn't a set amount of ticketing and the overflow was empty.
Trump had a really bad night in a really red state
Your take?
tia
captain queeg
(10,172 posts)You know if a single one showed up hed be sitting right behind trump.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)and the number given out that way hypothetically could have been infinite because it was always a first-come-first-in arrangement. The people who wanted to be there were there and the online ticketing didn't make any difference. The actual demand was for a bit less than 6,200.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Nevilledog
(51,080 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)Nevilledog
(51,080 posts)There was no limit on requests for tickets.
The only effect of the spoofing was to make them look like idiots bragging that a MILLION people wanted to come to the rally.
THEY COULDN'T GET 19k ACTUAL TRUMP SUPPORTERS TO SHOW UP
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,681 posts)Wonder how much longer he'll have a job?
Nevilledog
(51,080 posts)If he fires Pascale he's admitting it was a giant clusterfuck.
If he keeps Pascale they can blame the disaster on the spoofing, or invisible ninja protesters.
Fucking up so badly might, in a twisted way, be job security.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)He was shouting at him a few weeks ago because he didnt like their internal poll numbers and he was totally pissed off about the article that detailed how much money Parscale made from the campaign since 2016. It listed several multi-million dollar homes and Ferraris. Dump was pissed not just because Parscale was making so much money but also because of the publicity from the article. Dump has to have the spotlight. Ask Scaramucci.
Nevilledog
(51,080 posts)This colossal fuck up was broadcast live and the incessant bragging about ticket requests was spread out to everyone in his sphere.
I hope he doesn't fire Pascale. We might end up dealing with Rove.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... heads need to look at what happened and try and think long and hard about supporting Trump going forward
onetexan
(13,036 posts)Hands down whatever the kids did it worked. They managed to punk the Idiot & his enablers.
Nevilledog
(51,080 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)not so dumb they were willing to risk Corona Virus and protesters to hear him ramble on for an hour and forty minutes!
RockRaven
(14,959 posts)Parscale claimed 800K ticket requests, and Trump later inflated that to 1M. Even accounting for Trumpian BS-ing in those numbers, the idea of a crowd of 100K+ could have caused a bunch of people to stay away.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... either.
There are a couple of large implications when it comes to this rally, its a canary in the coal mine.
ProfessorGAC
(65,000 posts)Even assuming you're dead on, it's illogical to announce attendance expectations of 780,000 to 980,000 above capacity and think that won't dissuade some potential attendees.
The prank would have meant nothing if Parscale & PINO would kept their big mouths shut.
It wasn't kids on tiktok. It was their own fault!
roamer65
(36,745 posts)We are gonna flip states like TX.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... the reddest state in the union to a free event ON A SATURDAY !!
Look at the implications for the economy !?
C_U_L8R
(44,998 posts)They don't care enough for trump to get out of the house... and those that believe there is a virus certainly won't risk their health for him. The rest are just lazy and not that into him.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)There's nothing wrong with that.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)JI7
(89,247 posts)was because MAGASHITS just didn't come out in large numbers for their own reasons.
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,411 posts)I doubt turnout was a function of this troll but if it led to Trump foolishly hyping expectations its worth noting that TikTok has rumored ties to the Chinese government.
Reporting teens to submitting his campaign isnt the help Trump wanted from them.
Link to tweet
malaise
(268,949 posts)When you tell your base that Covid-19 is a hoax then tell them if they catch it at his rally, neither the Con nor his goons are liable, even your deplorables will have second thoughts.
What a fucking flop!
lame54
(35,285 posts)True they did not affect the actual turnout
They did fuel the constant pre-rally bragging which they believed to be true
That build up falling flat is the real failure
Happy Hoosier
(7,293 posts)No one wanted to come!