Toddler, 3 teens among 9 dead, 56 shot in Chicago Father's Day weekend violence

[mucifer]

CHICAGO (WLS) -- Nine people have been killed, four of them minors, and 47 others have been wounded in shootings across Chicago so far on Father's Day weekend.

A teenage girl, 2 teen boys and a 3-year-old are among the dead.

A 27-year-old man was driving his 3-year-old son in the 600 block of North Central Avenue when a blue Honda pulled up and fired into their car just before 6:30 Saturday night, according to police.

Police said the man was only grazed, but the 3-year-old was hit in the back and later died.

https://abc7chicago.com/56-shot-9-fatally-in-chicago-fathers-day-weekend-violence/6258403/

so much suffering in my city.

[Beringia]

1. They don't say the shooters were white

Is this just assumed?

[mucifer]

2. there is a lot of gang violence in Chicago. The article goes through all of the shootings

They do not mention the race of the shooters. They probably have not made a lot of arrests. There is not a lot of trust in the Black and Latino communities with the police because of police violence. There is a very high percentage of unsolved murders.

[Beringia]

3. I know

I worked at West Suburban Hospital, on the border of Austin Chicago and Oak Park mentioned in the article, in the early 2000s. One of the radiologists joked about the rash of kids brought in on the weekends on hot summer nights because of gang violence.

[Igel]

4. Why make that assumption?

Might as well assume they were off-duty police.

[jmg257]

5. Odds are against it.

Over 40% of victims and 60% of offenders were between the ages of 17 and 25. 90.1% of victims were male. 75.3% of victims and 70.5% of offenders were African American, 18.9% were Hispanic (20.3% of offenders), and whites were 5.6% of victims (3.5% of offenders).

Though the stats are a bit dated.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Chicago#Murder_and_shootings

Seems dealing with repeat offenders should be the main issue. When arrests are actually made, that is...

According to a January 2017 study by the University of Chicago Crime Lab, “around 90 percent [of those arrested for a homicide or shooting in Chicago in 2015 and 2016] had at least one prior arrest.” On average, someone arrested for a homicide or shooting had “nearly 12 prior arrests, with almost 45 percent having had more than 10 prior arrests.” These alarming statistics have led Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson to call for tougher penalties for repeat offenders.

[Beringia]

6. Great info, thanks for that

[hack89]

8. That would be a very poor assumption

Interracial murder is not the norm given how segregated America is, especially in the north.

[Tipperary]

22. I certainly do not assume that.

Anyone with any knowledge of the gun violence in Chicago would not assume that either. Very sad.

[MichMan]

7. Their loved ones are feeling just as much pain as Mr Floyd or Mr Brooks families

Seems like a weekly occurrence.

10 murdered on Memorial weekend followed by 24 the next weekend.

[jmg257]

9. I hope there is continued outrage over these senseless killings.

[Tipperary]

23. "Continued?"

Have you seen outrage about the violence in Chicago? That lasts more than a day or so?

[jmg257]

24. Ah I guess not...lasts as long as the 1st day after the weekend?

At least overall rates seem to be going down.

[gulliver]

10. The root cause is the Republican Drug War

Oust all Republicans in November (or as close as possible). Then use better sense in managing drug use. Stop digging the hole the Republicans started and continue to force us to dig.

[mucifer]

11. the dems backed the crime bill. Both parties are to blame. One is trying harder to fix it now

[gulliver]

12. Nope. That's a Republican talking point.

Nixon put the whole thing into overdrive as part of his Republican Southern Strategy (now collapsing). Reagan went completely nuts on it. I don't like hearing Republican talking points on DU in general, but this is one that needs to stop.

One party created the problem and made it toxic to society. The other occasionally went along with things they shouldn't have. There's no equivalence to be found here, and it's rather disgusting to see one being made.

[mucifer]

13. We have admit our mistakes :

First, the 1994 crime bill gave the federal stamp of approval for states to pass even more tough-on-crime laws. By 1994, all states had passed at least one mandatory minimum law, but the 1994 crime bill encouraged even more punitive laws and harsher practices on the ground, including by prosecutors and police, to lock up more people and for longer periods of time.

Second, the 1994 law shaped Democratic Party politics for years to come. Under the leadership of Bill Clinton, Democrats wanted to wrest control of crime issues from Republicans, so the two parties began a bidding war to increase penalties for crime, trying to outdo one another. The 1994 crime bill was a key part of the Democratic strategy to show that it can be tougher-on-crime than Republicans.

While Republicans continued their Willie Horton-style fear-mongering that pushed for more punitive policies in the states, the official 1996 Democratic Party platform, which was meant to provide a vision for the Democratic Party nationwide, relied heavily on the 1994 law to display their tough on crime credentials. An entire section in the platform is dedicated to "tough punishment," taking pride in the fact that the Democratic Party passed tougher sentencing laws and provided more federal funding for prisons in the states.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/smart-justice/mass-incarceration/how-1994-crime-bill-fed-mass-incarceration-crisis

Sorry this was real. We should not try to erase history. We need to acknowledge it and fix it.

[gulliver]

14. Again, there's no equivalence here. It's pure Republicanist sophism to suggest one.

There can be zero doubt that if all Republicans were voted out of every office in November, the Drug War would evaporate.

That's what we need to acknowledge.

You don't doubt that do you? Toss all Republicans in November and the Drug War stops? You do acknowledge that, right?

[MichMan]

17. Not everyone favors complete legalization

Gang violence wouldn't disappear

[gulliver]

18. If all Republicans were voted out of every office in November, the "drug war" would be gone.

Do you dispute that? Does that sound good to you? It sure does to me. We can talk details afterward.

And, yes, I'd argue gang violence would in fact go away. Replace the stupid, malice-ridden Republican drug war with a thought out solution and we would immediately see a better world.

[MichMan]

15. Reagan had a Democratic House all 8 years

Like it or not, they were not innocent bystanders

[gulliver]

16. It's just a Republican talking point, but I'm glad to see it being backed down from

There's the perp, the Republican Party, that cynically and maliciously targeted police at minorities and liberals under Nixon. So, let's convict the Republicans of that right now, please.

Your vote?

[uponit7771]

19. Too many out of state guns able to travel into SE Chi, that's the long and short of it

[mucifer]

21. I wish it was that simple. It is a factor

[jmg257]

25. And the people who use them? Where do they come in from?

Seems an awful demand for guns, there.

[uponit7771]

27. Nope small percentage of people in Chicago on the guns

[jmg257]

28. Agree on that - the actual few thousand offenders,

Or however many they used to keep lists of.

[sarisataka]

26. Why don't those guns stay

In their home states and cause crimes there?

[uponit7771]

29. Or start suing the surrounding states for allowing the trafficking of guns into chi

[mvd]

20. Awful

Murders and shootings have also been a serious problem in Philly this year.

I think poverty, disputes over drugs, too many guns and a broken public education system are main factors. Poverty and guns can be addressed through legislation. Need to get Biden in. I am not sure how to solve the drug factor - the drug war has not worked and puts too many in prison. I think a better trust with police can also help reduce crime.