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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow do we know the prank actually happened?
I haven't actually seen anyone that can document that there were ever all that many ticket requests. There are a multitude of reasons for the low turn out, not to mention the bad estimating on the part of the campaign.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)And that is the simplest explanation.
Paladin
(28,243 posts)Millions of supposed tickets, hundreds of thousands of supposed attendees---and only 6200 show up, hunched down in a wash of blue, blue, blue seating. The details of how trump's back was broken will be forthcoming; right now I'm just enjoying it.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Only the Trump campaign was saying a million. They are prone to unreasonable extrapolation and flat out lying. I'm also a bit worried the campaign will try to turn this around and blame Antifa or the DNC or heck even point to the Russians or something to cover up their incompetence.
Nevilledog
(51,031 posts)Everything else is delicious background noise. Not a single thing the teens did kept 19k trumphumpers from showing up.
brush
(53,743 posts)crowd estimate of 800, 000 they anticipated.
Amateurs. Tulsa only has 400,000 some people in it.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)They expected a huge influx of Trump cultists to descend upon Tulsa for this event.
brush
(53,743 posts)mucifer
(23,487 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,389 posts)But it appears Parscale has gone into hiding. Most mysterious.
Nevilledog
(51,031 posts)stillcool
(32,626 posts)rurallib
(62,387 posts)To me the thing that doesn't compute is that appeared to be an open-ended amount of tickets. Therefore it seems perfectly logical that even though there was some viral effort to request tickets among that 800,000 tickets requested there must have been at least 20,000 real requests of people that would show up.
If they cut ticket allocation off at 20,000 that would make sense but apparently they didn't. They were planning for an outside show as big as the inside one.
Which leads me to believe that the requests by the faithful probably topped out at @ 6500. If that is true then Trumpy has huge problems - simply stated the fools buying his bullshit is getting thinner by the day.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)1) The faithful signed up with little commitment or intention to actually show up. They just saw it as "showing support"
2) The campaign saw early sign ups and used that to extrapolate forward and got themselves excited and over planned.
3) The faithful were ordering more tickets than they needed and never talked enough friends to come with them.
4) Alot of people decided they didn't want to go to a huge hassle because they were told there would be 10's of thousands there so they stayed home.
Mariana
(14,854 posts)Especially after there were stories in the news about people camping out days ahead of time, to make sure they got in.
unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)If there really wasn't 800,000 ticket requests, none of your 'simple explanations' are necessary.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)They badly misjudged the size for some reason and it didn't take 800k pranksters. They could done it to themselves.
LeftInTX
(25,150 posts)It was a data haul.
They were just stupid to announce that 800,000 were physically planning to attend. I bet most were from out of state. It's all about fund raising and getting a donor list and targeted campaigning.
womanofthehills
(8,666 posts)Also was a factor with the Trump fans.
fleur-de-lisa
(14,624 posts)Thats all I need to know.
Wounded Bear
(58,605 posts)is trick the Trump team into making those wildly irrational claims of how many people wanted to come, which made the low turnout even more humiliating. It's all about image for them.
1 million "promises to show" - 6000 actual.