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Music Man

(1,184 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:13 PM Jun 2020

The K-Pop/teenager hijacking story is fun, but the narrative needs to remain on the no-shows.

I've been proud of the youngsters using technology to prank the Trump campaign, but it doesn't explain the lack of an overflow crowd. It's possible the "Zoomers" reserved thousands--perhaps hundreds of thousands--of tickets, but ultimately only 6,200 people showed up for an event that was billed to possibly be in the millions.

So I've had a fun night and day, and I've been proud of the kids springing into action, but ultimately the reason this flopped is because Trump's campaign oversold expectations for a rally that was a bad idea to have in the first place. He is a disorganized mess, and America is tired of him.

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The K-Pop/teenager hijacking story is fun, but the narrative needs to remain on the no-shows. (Original Post) Music Man Jun 2020 OP
There is no way they can spin it to not looking weak. Either their people didn't want to come mucifer Jun 2020 #1
Indeed. Music Man Jun 2020 #2
I agree. Tipperary Jun 2020 #3
Absolutely. I too had a blast playing with all this last night to wake up this morning to see this LizBeth Jun 2020 #4
Even the campaign itself does not blame K-Pop. It does not account for why their people did not show tulipsandroses Jun 2020 #5
Were they no-shows, or never shows? Beartracks Jun 2020 #6
The important takeaway here dreamland Jun 2020 #7
For the same reason that anyone can sign up for an event LeftInTX Jun 2020 #8
there will be at least 3 overriding narratives this week qazplm135 Jun 2020 #9

mucifer

(23,521 posts)
1. There is no way they can spin it to not looking weak. Either their people didn't want to come
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:16 PM
Jun 2020

because of covid (which they say is a hoax) or trump just isn't popular anymore or some teenagers just royally kicked his ass.

Which one does not make him look like a fool?

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
2. Indeed.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:19 PM
Jun 2020

From the ticket pranks to overselling expectations to the Juneteenth snafu to members of his advance team getting Covid, it's been one big shitshow. It also happens the same week as Berman's firing and Bolton's interviews and book release.

If Donald Trump doesn't go down hard this November, God help our electoral system.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
4. Absolutely. I too had a blast playing with all this last night to wake up this morning to see this
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:22 PM
Jun 2020

as an excuse for the low numbers. No chance in hell, absolutely not.

tulipsandroses

(5,122 posts)
5. Even the campaign itself does not blame K-Pop. It does not account for why their people did not show
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:23 PM
Jun 2020

They are blaming the media and outside protesters at the event. None of this is true either.

There are 2 possible reasons that trump's people did not show.

1. They are growing tired of him like you said. - MSNBC interviewed a trumper after the rally last night, he said he came to hear trump talk about what he planned to do about economic recovery for farmers - sounded like he did not think tariffs was the way to go, he did not say it, but he sounded disappointed that he did not hear trump address this. I'm sure that he's not the only trumper exasperated that trump is not offering solutions. The name calling and bad "jokes" can only go but so far.

2. The other explanation - He may very well still have strong support HOWEVER, people are more concerned about Covid19. There may be online talk about not believing it to " own the libs", but in reality, people are not willing to take that chance, even if they still support trump. Which still should be concerning to trump - he's losing his grip on his base. They don't believe him on Covid19, that begs the question of will they start to doubt other things he's saying?

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
6. Were they no-shows, or never shows?
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:26 PM
Jun 2020

When the Trump campaign said there were millions of ticket requests, I assumed they were lying. And whaddaya know? Tons of empty seats.

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dreamland

(964 posts)
7. The important takeaway here
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jun 2020

....Is that teens are aware and they are taking action even though. They can't vote. Proud of the young people involved.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
8. For the same reason that anyone can sign up for an event
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jun 2020

Let's say I wanted to go to this event, https://trumpstudents.org/convention but live in another state. By signing up, I get a notification (reminder) about the digital version of the event.

This is a no brainer..really....

It's just stupid that Trump was announcing that 800,000 people were going to be there.. Is Trump so stupid that he doesn't know how this works?

I wonder if his campaign said something like, "We got 800,000 RSVPs"

Trump: "So 800,000 are coming?"
Parscale: "Biggest data haul"

Campaign: "They have RSVP'd, but they live in North Dakota, Alabama, I don't think they are physically coming, but it's the biggest data haul ever"

Trump: "Can you fix that?"

I think the whole thing devolved with Trump's interpretation...

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
9. there will be at least 3 overriding narratives this week
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 01:45 PM
Jun 2020

all likely by Trump, all likely bad.

I wouldn't worry a ton about narratives, they are going to change daily with this guy, but thankfully, he's incapable it appears of coming up with a positive one, just new variations on the same negative themes.

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