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MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:42 PM Jun 2020

Who wants to go to Tulsa?

Really. I've been there. Given the virus and everything else, why would someone travel to Tulsa, OK to see Donald Trump praise himself? Tulsa?

Choosing that venue was a poor decision by Trump's campaign team. I was not in the least surprised to see that arena only 1/3 full. Nobody wants to go to Tulsa.

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Who wants to go to Tulsa? (Original Post) MineralMan Jun 2020 OP
I usually only make it as far as Bixby. 5X Jun 2020 #1
In my younger years I went there for a Vogon_Glory Jun 2020 #2
It's a deep red state and they thought Trump would draw a bigger crowd. Arkansas Granny Jun 2020 #3
It is, indeed. MineralMan Jun 2020 #6
If you thought Oral Roberts was something, LuvNewcastle Jun 2020 #20
Why would anybody go anywhere to listen to Trump praise himself? Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #4
I grew up there and loved it. BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #5
OK. But, you know, if a city of 400,000 can't draw MineralMan Jun 2020 #9
I sense for some in the cult the thrill may be gone. BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #10
My thinking for what it's worth TlalocW Jun 2020 #19
+1 everybody has seen the act stopdiggin Jun 2020 #26
Parscale and the boys estimated 800k and Tulsa has only 400k people. Crazy. But Parscale has kept... brush Jun 2020 #11
Dig your deft movement of the goalposts. LanternWaste Jun 2020 #29
Grew up there, too. 5X Jun 2020 #14
Free Venue. Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #7
I've been told that Tulsa is actually a cool place lame54 Jun 2020 #8
It's not that bad. A mid-sized city with a nice minor league baseball stadium right in the ... brush Jun 2020 #12
It is OKNancy Jun 2020 #17
I dislike people putting down other cities or regions. Tipperary Jun 2020 #27
I suppose it depends on the reason you're there. It is home to the Gilcrease Museum, Arkansas Granny Jun 2020 #21
Apparently they have a large beautiful park lame54 Jun 2020 #25
Tulsa is a wonderful town. Full of great people OKNancy Jun 2020 #13
yes to what you said... dhill926 Jun 2020 #24
We drove through once back in the late 1980s kskiska Jun 2020 #15
The Woody Guthrie Center is in Tulsa Brother Buzz Jun 2020 #16
I used to live there and still go back a lot to visit a good friend TlalocW Jun 2020 #18
Popular song yesterday. onenote Jun 2020 #22
1) Woodie Guthrie Museum 2) Bob Dylan Archives 3) John Hope Franklin... ret5hd Jun 2020 #23
Why would any person travel to any city to see Trump praise himself??? riversedge Jun 2020 #28
It's certainly not on my bucket list Warpy Jun 2020 #30

Vogon_Glory

(9,084 posts)
2. In my younger years I went there for a
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jun 2020

science fiction convention.

Since then I heard there were plans for a regional hobby meat (Assuming that the COVID 19 pandemic passes), but I can think of other cities of similar size that have more attractions.

Arkansas Granny

(31,483 posts)
3. It's a deep red state and they thought Trump would draw a bigger crowd.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jun 2020

It should have worked out for him, but I think it reflects his waning popularity even among the base.

MineralMan

(146,192 posts)
9. OK. But, you know, if a city of 400,000 can't draw
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:54 PM
Jun 2020

enough people to hear Trump speak from it's own population...

I'm not saying it's not a nice place to live, but why would anyone travel there to hear Trump?

I've been to Tulsa a couple of times. I'm not a fan of Oklahoma, though.

BannonsLiver

(16,161 posts)
10. I sense for some in the cult the thrill may be gone.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 03:57 PM
Jun 2020

There were more than enough local Trumpers to fill that arena three times over. The most interesting question from the debacle to me is why didn’t they show up.

TlalocW

(15,358 posts)
19. My thinking for what it's worth
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:13 PM
Jun 2020

Is that America is in uncertain times, and while their initial infatuation with Trump came from his ego and his (attempts at) owning the libs, the act hasn't changed. So now is it not only staid, but he's a one-trick pony that isn't actually doing anything to solve problems.

Also, it's tougher for someone like Trump to run against Joe Biden. He's an amiable grandpa type. He's not able to gin up the level of animosity he was able to with Hillary.

TlalocW

stopdiggin

(11,092 posts)
26. +1 everybody has seen the act
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:38 PM
Jun 2020

and being an a**hole isn't nearly as funny with a virus, unemployment, BLM and a recession on the loose.
Even yahoos have to think once in a while.

brush

(53,469 posts)
11. Parscale and the boys estimated 800k and Tulsa has only 400k people. Crazy. But Parscale has kept...
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:00 PM
Jun 2020

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his grift going, until now at least. I think he's gotten his last check after that debacle.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
29. Dig your deft movement of the goalposts.
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:59 PM
Jun 2020

Though I'd suggest a 'new hobby', goalpost moving seems a waste of time that could easily take away from important things like staring down people visiting your neighbors (which isn't creepy at all).

brush

(53,469 posts)
12. It's not that bad. A mid-sized city with a nice minor league baseball stadium right in the ...
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:03 PM
Jun 2020

downtown entertainment district with bars and restaurants around. And that new arena that trump failed to fill. I used to have a girlfriend there I'd go to see.

Arkansas Granny

(31,483 posts)
21. I suppose it depends on the reason you're there. It is home to the Gilcrease Museum,
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:20 PM
Jun 2020

which has, among other exhibits, a large collection of Native American artifacts on open display. You can easily spend a day there.

One of the best times I've had in Tulsa was seeing CSN (unplugged) at the Brady Theater. The accoustics are wonderful.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
13. Tulsa is a wonderful town. Full of great people
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:05 PM
Jun 2020

It's a little of the cultural hot spot in Oklahoma. First class ballet company, art scene, music scene.
It's also a gay-friendly town fwiw. Second largest Unitarian congregation in the US ( just behind Boston) if you want to bring up Oral Roberts.
One reason it flopped was because he did pick Tulsa instead of some redneck town.

kskiska

(27,041 posts)
15. We drove through once back in the late 1980s
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jun 2020

late at night and couldn't even find a motel because there was a bowling tournament in town that took up all the rooms. I'd never seen it in daylight, and never had the desire or occasion to return.

Brother Buzz

(36,213 posts)
16. The Woody Guthrie Center is in Tulsa
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jun 2020

The Woody Guthrie Center is dedicated to the work of one of the nation’s greatest folk singers and most influential songwriters. Born in Oklahoma, Woody Guthrie is best known for the ballad, “This Land Is Your Land,” which some people consider an alternative national anthem. But Guthrie penned hundreds of other songs, too, and one of them was about Trump’s father, Fred Trump.

In 1950, Trump’s father was Guthrie’s landlord in Brooklyn. Guthrie didn’t think much of Fred Trump when he wrote these unrecorded and unpublished lyrics, which were found in the Guthrie Center’s archives in 2016 by Will Kaufman, a professor of American culture at the University of Central Lancashire in Great Britain.

I suppose

Old Man Trump knows

Just how much

Racial Hate

he stirred up

In the bloodpot of human hearts

When he drawed

That color line

Here at his

Eighteen hundred family project …


The Trump development was called Beach Haven, a public-housing project for veterans built with federal loans. As a Merchant Marine, Guthrie qualified to live there.

A year into his stay, though, Guthrie began to understand that the curiously all-white neighborhood was by design. In the archive, Kaufman found notebooks Guthrie filled with what he wished the place had been, a community where “a face of every bright color laffing and joshing in these old darkly weeperish empty shadowed windows.”

TlalocW

(15,358 posts)
18. I used to live there and still go back a lot to visit a good friend
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:08 PM
Jun 2020

There really isn't anything that screams, "Oh, gotta go to Tulsa... they're the only one that has <this>!" When friends visited me for the first time, I would jokingly take them to Oral Roberts University. His Prayer Tower has a self-guided tour of his life - six interconnected rooms in a circle. Its population is very open to religious grifters (yet there is a lot of progressiveness and a cool art/music scene) so the thinking was sound that the cult of Trump would have found success there.

It SHOULD have been Trump country, and if it had been 2016 when he was running against Hillary, he probably would have come closer to filling it just from the inhabitants.

TlalocW

ret5hd

(20,433 posts)
23. 1) Woodie Guthrie Museum 2) Bob Dylan Archives 3) John Hope Franklin...
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:26 PM
Jun 2020

Center For Reconciliation (pics below)








riversedge

(69,721 posts)
28. Why would any person travel to any city to see Trump praise himself???
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 04:57 PM
Jun 2020

Just turn on the tube--he is always praising himself.
I've no opine about Tulsa. Never been there


.....Really. I've been there. Given the virus and everything else, why would someone travel to Tulsa, OK to see Donald Trump praise himself? Tulsa?

Warpy

(110,904 posts)
30. It's certainly not on my bucket list
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jun 2020

but perhaps if I lived in southern KS or southwestern MO it might look a little more exciting. Alas, I hail from Boston, NYC, and DC, among other places, and it's just not a place I find all that fascinating, and having Big Dummy there would be an added disincentive.

I have friends currently in the area who say it's the place to go to be seen by specialty medicine, but about all they say the area has to recommend it is cheap housing. It is, however, the bloody beating heart of conservative country, so if he can't draw an audience big enough to fill an arena that sold out for the Wiggles in 2011, maybe it's time to fold his tent and resign.

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