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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 05:59 PM Jun 2020

Flynn transcript shows Russia opposed Obama UN resolution on Israel

Russia did not support a UN Security Council Resolution that the Obama administration considered pushing in order to force parameters for a peace agreement on Israel and the Palestinians, as indicated by recently declassified phone conversations between US President Donald Trump's former adviser Michael Flynn and Russia's ambassador to the US at the time Sergey Kislyak.

The US and Russia denied reports that in December 2016, soon after then-US president Barack Obama allowed UN Security Council Resolution 2334 condemning Israeli settlement activity to pass, he pushed a second resolution that would be damaging to the Jewish state. The resolution passed because the US abstained, as opposed to its usual veto.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ended up convincing Russian President Vladimir Putin to threaten a veto. The resolution was never actually submitted to the UNSC, because it had no chance of passing.

But the Flynn-Kislyak transcripts declassified late last month indicated that the story of Putin’s veto of a second Obama-backed resolution – first reported in Israel Hayom this week and further developed by The Jerusalem Post – is, in fact true.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/israel-news/flynn-transcript-shows-russia-opposed-obama-un-resolution-on-israel-631884/amp

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still_one

(92,138 posts)
1. Obama never suggested a two state solution based on 1948 boundaries. I trust Ynetnews
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:15 PM
Jun 2020

as much as I do Fox News

Netanyahu and trump are two sides of the same coin

Both Putin and Netanyahu also tried to influence the us election

Interesting that we are supposed to believe the traitor Flynn and Russian ambassador 𝐂𝐨𝐧𝐟𝐢𝐫𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 of this

The reason I know this is a LIE is because Obama suggested a negotiation based on 1967 boundaries in 2011

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
2. This appears to be the original source
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:18 PM
Jun 2020

Russia did not support a UN Security Council Resolution that the Obama administration considered pushing in order to force parameters for a peace agreement on Israel and the Palestinians, as indicated by recently declassified phone conversations between US President Donald Trump's former adviser Michael Flynn and Russia's ambassador to the US at the time Sergey Kislyak.

The US and Russia denied reports that in December 2016, soon after then-US president Barack Obama allowed UN Security Council Resolution 2334 condemning Israeli settlement activity to pass, he pushed a second resolution that would be damaging to the Jewish state. The resolution passed because the US abstained, as opposed to its usual veto.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu ended up convincing Russian President Vladimir Putin to threaten a veto. The resolution was never actually submitted to the UNSC, because it had no chance of passing.

But the Flynn-Kislyak transcripts declassified late last month indicated that the story of Putin’s veto of a second Obama-backed resolution – first reported in Israel Hayom this week and further developed by The Jerusalem Post – is, in fact true.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/israel-news/flynn-transcript-shows-russia-opposed-obama-un-resolution-on-israel-631884/amp

That is from the Jerusalem Post.

I don't know if it is true or not. I came across it looking up Trump-Russia.

still_one

(92,138 posts)
3. Obama as all US Presidents except trump all frowned against the settlements. Obama never used the
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:23 PM
Jun 2020

1948 boundaries , and in 2011 used the 1967 boundaries as a basis for negotiations





JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
4. I probably should of used the JPost story in the OP
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:25 PM
Jun 2020

Not familiar from Ynet but the story reference the JPost story.

still_one

(92,138 posts)
5. I think the sources used whether jpost or ynetnews are very questionable
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:28 PM
Jun 2020

Flynn and the Russian ambassador?

Netanyahu is also not to be trusted

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
6. The story is based on transcripts
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 06:30 PM
Jun 2020

I removed the Ynet story and replaced it with a more reputable source. I leave it up to readers to judge what true or what isn't.

still_one

(92,138 posts)
7. I still don't believe it. Transcripts by who? Here was Obama's position which is why I think this
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 07:47 PM
Jun 2020

is a propaganda piece to try and get American Jews to vote republican

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/350925/

Remember Netanyahu actively came to Florida campaigning for Romney

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.csmonitor.com/layout/set/amphtml/Commentary/Opinion/2012/0927/What-Netanyahu-s-meddling-in-US-election-means-for-Obama-Romney-and-diplomacy

The 1967 boundaries were problematic themselves, the 1948 boundaries make no sense at all, and Obama is much more intelligent to know that



still_one

(92,138 posts)
8. I see the jpost has 1948 to 1967. Unless I read it wrong I thought I saw the ynetnews use 1948
Sun Jun 21, 2020, 08:02 PM
Jun 2020

regardless it was a negotiation starting point. There was no way after the 67 war that I could see giving up Golan for security reasons, or Jerusalem where before the 67 war Jews were blocked from going in there to pray

The closest we came to an agreement was with Carter and Clinton

In Carter’s case Sharon sabotaged it, and with Clinton bush derailed it

Jon we might both saying the same thing, except the Jpost seems to be pushing a more hyperbolic version

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/350925/






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