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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 10:51 PM

kentuck (100,878 posts)

Will this ABC interview with John Bolton have any impact with Republican voters?

Bolton is a hardcore conservative and Republicans, in general, have held him in high esteem.

Until he was either fired or resigned? Different sides have different opinions.

With the assistance of the Martha Raddatz production team, it turned into a fascinating partisan interview. He wasn't intending to speak to a liberal audience. He was speaking to Republicans.

If it sparks a conversation between Republicans, then that may be a good thing?

Much of the Republican Party has been in a partisan stupor for the last 4 or so years. They need to have a serious discussion amongst themselves. Will any of them be talking about the Bolton book or the ABC interview?

When that happens, we will have made progress.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/22/john-bolton-says-he-wont-vote-for-trump-and-hopes-he-is-a-one-term-president

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Will this ABC interview with John Bolton have any impact with Republican voters? (Original post)	kentuck	Jun 2020	OP
No	RandySF	Jun 2020	#1
I think everyone who would have abandoned Тяцмр has already done so.	BlueTsunami2018	Jun 2020	#2
All Bolton - and other GOPers soft on trump - have to do is impact a percent or two.	Hoyt	Jun 2020	#3
We know it will affect republican votes	SoonerPride	Jun 2020	#4
Exactly.	Hoyt	Jun 2020	#5
NO HE DIDN'T	sfstaxprep	Jun 2020	#6
I thought he said that in the interview tonight?	kentuck	Jun 2020	#12
No he did not. He said he's writing in a GOP candidate.	herding cats	Jun 2020	#11
This message was self-deleted by its author	herding cats	Jun 2020	#14
It could foster a movement	The Wizard	Jun 2020	#7
No! A DT fan I saw interviewed in the parking lot on Fri, when she was waiting for her spot	napi21	Jun 2020	#8
They don't have to vote against him. They only don't have to vote for him.	kentuck	Jun 2020	#10
A realistic impact	Pantagruel	Jun 2020	#9
A distinct possibility .	The Wizard	Jun 2020	#13
I doubt it	herding cats	Jun 2020	#15
we don't need em so doesn't really matter	qazplm135	Jun 2020	#16
Most people probably couldn't make it	Raine	Jun 2020	#17
Nothing negative about Trump impacts Republican voters	Awsi Dooger	Jun 2020	#18
There are the "Never-Trumpers".	kentuck	Jun 2020	#19
They might fill a school bus. Doubtful they could fill two.	JHB	Jun 2020	#20
R's are long past policy issues	RANDYWILDMAN	Jun 2020	#21

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 10:54 PM

RandySF (36,384 posts)

1. No

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 10:54 PM

BlueTsunami2018 (1,499 posts)

2. I think everyone who would have abandoned Тяцмр has already done so.

They’ll go against anyone who takes the cult leader on.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 10:57 PM

Hoyt (47,795 posts)

3. All Bolton - and other GOPers soft on trump - have to do is impact a percent or two.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 10:59 PM

SoonerPride (9,384 posts)

4. We know it will affect republican votes

Well at least one.

Bolton said he’s voting for Biden.

I’ll take every vote we get no matter how much they are a Fucking odious shitbag

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:00 PM

Hoyt (47,795 posts)

5. Exactly.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:02 PM

sfstaxprep (2,876 posts)

6. NO HE DIDN'T

He came out with a statement saying he was not voting for either Drumpf or Biden.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:35 PM

kentuck (100,878 posts)

12. I thought he said that in the interview tonight?

He said he might find a good conservative candidate as a write-in, was my interpretation.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:33 PM

herding cats (17,005 posts)

11. No he did not. He said he's writing in a GOP candidate.

It's in the interview. He disdains Democrats down to the finest point in the interview.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:03 PM

The Wizard (10,964 posts)

7. It could foster a movement

within the GOP that could give some fence sitters a grain of confidence to turn against Herr Trump. His primitive mob style approach is wearing thin on many, and if they see Trump circling the drain and going to a sewage plant downstream of the crapper the effects could be instrumental in saving the reublic.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:06 PM

napi21 (45,362 posts)

8. No! A DT fan I saw interviewed in the parking lot on Fri, when she was waiting for her spot

line was asked if she wasn't afraid of getting the virus by attending such a large crowd said "I don't care if I get it or not, I just wast to see him! I LOVE that man!!!" After I choked, I realized that NOTHING anyone says, NOTHING DT does, will change the the minds of his ardent supporters. For whatever reason, those people are with him no matter what!

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:31 PM

kentuck (100,878 posts)

10. They don't have to vote against him. They only don't have to vote for him.

That is as good as a vote for the other side, some might say.

His cult are with him. The former conservative Republicans, moderate Eisenhower Republicans, and their progeny, are not real keen with Donald Trump.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:30 PM

Pantagruel (1,536 posts)

9. A realistic impact

is simply some of his 63 million voters from 2016 just stay home.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:37 PM

The Wizard (10,964 posts)

13. A distinct possibility .

Bolton's book could foster a movement within the GOP that could give some fence sitters a grain of confidence to turn against Herr Trump. His primitive mob style approach is wearing thin on many, and if they see Trump circling the drain and going to a sewage plant downstream of the crapper the effects could be instrumental in saving the republic.

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Sun Jun 21, 2020, 11:39 PM

herding cats (17,005 posts)

15. I doubt it

Those who follow things such as this have pretty much all chosen our camps at this point.

He's truly just out there to cash in before the gravy train derails. There's nothing much of merit new to anyone who is willing to read his droll book or is paying attention.

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Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:42 AM

qazplm135 (5,379 posts)

16. we don't need em so doesn't really matter

the ones who are off the Trump train ain't getting back on, and the ones on the Trump train probably ain't getting off, certainly not because of Bolton.

Get our folks out, and we win. Every time this is true. We only lose when our side stays home.

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Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:50 AM

Raine (25,895 posts)

17. Most people probably couldn't make it

thru that interview, gag, Bolton’s ugly face makes want to puke!

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Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:10 AM

Awsi Dooger (14,565 posts)

18. Nothing negative about Trump impacts Republican voters

They savor the guy. Don't allow low numbers at a rally to distract from the 5-year reality.

Trump in the exit poll will receive a higher split of the Republican vote than 2016. We need to hold the advantage among independent swing voters, the ones who decided 2018 and are favoring Biden right now.

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Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:09 PM

kentuck (100,878 posts)

19. There are the "Never-Trumpers".

But, how many are there?

If the Republican Party can be divided, it would be defeating Trump at his own game.

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Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:22 PM

JHB (32,773 posts)

20. They might fill a school bus. Doubtful they could fill two.

They just have excellent media connections, and people gushingly eager to give them carte blanche at the other end of those connections.

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Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:28 PM

RANDYWILDMAN (878 posts)

21. R's are long past policy issues

They are now Branded with a scarlet T on their chests and they love it. If they have not left the sinking ship by now, they are drowning on the Trump-Titanic.

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