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brush

(53,759 posts)
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:35 AM Jun 2020

Dr. Harry Edwards just recommended that Colin Kapernick be nominated for a Nobel Prize.

The activist/professor, instrumental in the 1968 Olympic protests and a backer of Muhammed Ali's decision to relinquish his heavyweight crown, appeared on ESPN's "First Take" program.

I can't think of a better candidate for the prize.

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Dr. Harry Edwards just recommended that Colin Kapernick be nominated for a Nobel Prize. (Original Post) brush Jun 2020 OP
Agreed Sherman A1 Jun 2020 #1
Yea for us ampm Jun 2020 #18
Kick dalton99a Jun 2020 #2
Excellent suggestion Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #3
... handmade34 Jun 2020 #4
The Pig will squeal and squeal, the cultists will have fits, if that happened. Thomas Hurt Jun 2020 #5
Same thing happened when Obama was elected Wawannabe Jun 2020 #10
The melt down from trump would be epic. I say do it. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #6
Oh my gosh yes, that would push old orange anus over the top. redstatebluegirl Jun 2020 #7
Yes, he earned it. n/t ms liberty Jun 2020 #8
Colin K took a courageous action that cost him his livelihood. How many of us would do the same? jalan48 Jun 2020 #9
Love Harry malaise Jun 2020 #11
Good choice. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2020 #12
Yes! MoonRiver Jun 2020 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author milestogo Jun 2020 #14
Zing! The message went right over your head. brush Jun 2020 #15
Imagine this The Nobel Committee leaking it's a close race. Trump or Kapernick decision soon. usaf-vet Jun 2020 #17
I like the way you think. Remember the movie "Independence Day"? brush Jun 2020 #22
Way over his head, like a missed football pass KS Toronado Jun 2020 #19
The nobel prize isn't about celebrity. milestogo Jun 2020 #27
Totally Right! "Its about sustained and effective activism." usaf-vet Jun 2020 #32
Still over your head. He didn't lose his job. He sacrificed... brush Jun 2020 #33
Do you find being a patronizing jerk to be an effective form of persuasion? milestogo Jun 2020 #39
And you know what you're talking about? In your first post... brush Jun 2020 #40
Irony. milestogo Jun 2020 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author SaveOurDemocracy Jun 2020 #26
Great idea. Scarsdale Jun 2020 #16
A true profile in courage unitedwethrive Jun 2020 #20
Beautiful idea :) Music Man Jun 2020 #21
I'm all for it. MontanaMama Jun 2020 #23
I'd like that. He suffered real consequences for the stand he took and never relented. SaveOurDemocracy Jun 2020 #25
Split It With Doctors Who Ignored CDC And Tested For Covid In Washington DanieRains Jun 2020 #28
FYI: There are different categories. Learn pls. brush Jun 2020 #30
After it was given to Yassar Arafat for peace, I quit giving a damn about it MichMan Jun 2020 #29
That's up to you. Kapernick is not Arafat. brush Jun 2020 #31
He deserves to be recognized for his stand for civil liberties. pazzyanne Jun 2020 #34
Oh, that'll make Trump blow his top sakabatou Jun 2020 #35
Its apparently making some DUers blow Solomon Jun 2020 #43
.. Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #36
Some background information Tetrachloride Jun 2020 #37
Don't just recommend, go ahead and nominate him Brother Buzz Jun 2020 #38
I hope he does. Kap is the catalyst for a now global movement. brush Jun 2020 #41
It looks like he's going to launch his campaign to sway world opinion when he visits Switzerland. Brother Buzz Jun 2020 #42

ampm

(301 posts)
18. Yea for us
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 11:51 AM
Jun 2020

I sometimes agree but there are people when polled just say stuff to make us look good and will suppress us so we have to be clear that they might be bots making the numbers look good for us.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. The Pig will squeal and squeal, the cultists will have fits, if that happened.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:39 AM
Jun 2020

I would laugh my ass off.

Wawannabe

(5,641 posts)
10. Same thing happened when Obama was elected
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 10:56 AM
Jun 2020

Yes, they will squeal!

Edit to add: I would support the prize for Kapernick.

Response to brush (Original post)

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
17. Imagine this The Nobel Committee leaking it's a close race. Trump or Kapernick decision soon.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jun 2020

And the winner IS..........

When the winner was announced ..... reports from WH say the exploding head was a horrible thing to witness.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
27. The nobel prize isn't about celebrity.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:29 PM
Jun 2020

Its about sustained and effective activism.

Losing a high paying job in sports does not qualify as suffering.

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
32. Totally Right! "Its about sustained and effective activism."
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jun 2020

Kapernick is a perfect example of someone who sustained effective activism.

He could have easily backed down at some point and regained his "high paying job".

He chose to stick by beliefs. I don't know if it rises to the threshold of the Noble Prize.

But I would gladly vote to elect him POTUS in 2020 over the idiot in the WH now.

History will treat Kapernick well. The same is not true about the idiot in the WH.
He will be a footnote on the same page as Hitler and other historical evil dictators want to be's.

By the way, I hate professional sports of all kinds. There are not enough Kaepernick's. IMHO

brush

(53,759 posts)
33. Still over your head. He didn't lose his job. He sacrificed...
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:54 PM
Jun 2020

his career for an ideal. He was offered a contract but stood by his guns to protest against innocent, unarmed black men and women getting killed by racist police on the streets of America over and over and over. See George Floyd, Rayshard Brooks, Breonna Taylor for the most recent ones out of hundreds over the years.

Are you totally unaware of the protests going on in major cities of the country and the world right now? Kapernick's sacrifice, and he didn't back down, is what built this movement.

Do you get it now?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
39. Do you find being a patronizing jerk to be an effective form of persuasion?
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jun 2020

Because its not. And you have no idea who you are talking to.

brush

(53,759 posts)
40. And you know what you're talking about? In your first post...
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 03:28 PM
Jun 2020

Last edited Mon Jun 22, 2020, 07:56 PM - Edit history (1)

you said Aaron Rodgers. A better quarterback. As if we were discussing who was a better football player.

You totally missed the point and now you're calling me a patronizing jerk. Seriously?

Response to milestogo (Reply #14)

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
16. Great idea.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 11:47 AM
Jun 2020

Colin sacrificed his career (or many years of it) to make a point. The leaders of the NFL were afraid tRump might send out nasty tweets about them, so they went along with his ideas, against the players. It was a disgrace. YES, bring on the Nobel prize for Colin.

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
20. A true profile in courage
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jun 2020

putting his career on the line for a just cause. It would be a perfect choice.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
28. Split It With Doctors Who Ignored CDC And Tested For Covid In Washington
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jun 2020

Nothing against Cap, one of my heroes, but they also need to be awarded for risking their profession.

brush

(53,759 posts)
30. FYI: There are different categories. Learn pls.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jun 2020

Chemistry, economics, literature, peace, physics, or physiology or medicine.

Kap, IMO, should be a nominee in the Peace category.

Agreed?

Tetrachloride

(7,826 posts)
37. Some background information
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jun 2020

1. Nobel Peace Prize controversies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobel_Prize_controversies#Peace

1a. some peace prizes were actually snubs to other people
1b. some award winners did not live up to the high standards we dream of

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi#Response_to_violence_against_Rohingya_Muslims_and_refugees


1c. additional controversy in Literature prize https://www.theguardian.com/books/2019/dec/07/nobel-winner-handke-avoids-genocide-controversy-in-speech


2. Current world population is 7.7 billion. Adult population is 5.8 billion. USA adult population 253 million

3. https://www.thoughtco.com/american-winners-nobel-peace-prize-3367759

21 Americans have won the Nobel Peace Prize.

3a. additional numerical info . https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/lists/all-nobel-peace-prizes/

--------- Now we come to this year 2020.

4. https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

There are 318 candidates for the Nobel Peace Prize for 2020, of which 211 are individuals and 107 are organizations.


5. Wikipedia Peace article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peace

6. English definitions of "peace" . https://www.definitions.net/definition/peace


Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
38. Don't just recommend, go ahead and nominate him
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jun 2020

You're qualified to nominate him.

University professors, professors emeriti and associate professors of history, social sciences, law, philosophy, theology, and religion; university rectors and university directors (or their equivalents); directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes are all qualified to make nominations.


https://www.nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/

After reflecting a bit, I'm guessing Dr. Harry Edwards is planning to market the idea to win support before he actually sends the nomination letter, which may prove to be a brilliant plan.

Brother Buzz

(36,407 posts)
42. It looks like he's going to launch his campaign to sway world opinion when he visits Switzerland.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jun 2020

I love the idea of the orange anus stewing in his own juices when the headlines start appearing. Can you say, "Schadenfreude"?

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