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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHoward Fineman: Trump doesn't care if he keeps power legitimately. He'll:
1/ Beg dictators to help 2/ Create chaos with budget shutdown 3/ Use #Barr to suppress votes 4/ Reject the count 5/ Contest the count in courts 6/ Defy their rulings 7/Force authorities to remove him Noon Jan. 20, 2021.
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Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)He's not a "hair-on-fire" type reporter.
highplainsdem
(48,975 posts)themaguffin
(3,826 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,784 posts)And get under the skin of Trump using his tweets against him.
ms liberty
(8,573 posts)The victory has to be overwhelming and decisive.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)Would get the highest ratings ever!
wryter2000
(46,039 posts)Although, another DUer suggested waiting until he goes out to play golf and changing the locks.
FM123
(10,053 posts)Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)If the deadline is the day of or before the election, you can't get the final tally in that night or every in the next few days.
PA expanded its mail in voting for the primary this year and the number of Ds who voted by mail was much greater than Rs, and the "normal" returns we are used to that come in a few hours after polls closed showed that 45 had more votes than Biden and Bernie had total - when all of the mail votes were counted and the final tally came in a a few days later, Biden and Bernie had a good bit more votes than 45.
He W I L L declare victory election night if it works out like this in November, and it will be a HUGE mess.
yellowdogintexas
(22,252 posts)Vote by mail ballots may be mailed in the same day the voter receives them, and must be received by the time the polls close on Election Day. Ballots are sent out early enough to give everyone time to get their ballot back in time. It can even be dropped off at the County Elections Office.
However, the mail in ballots are counted daily as they start to come in. When Early Voting begins ( and we have 10 days of EV), those totals are electronic, and EV closes 3 days prior to Election Day, so those totals are ready. The first load of results is EV and VBM.
The point is we do not have to wait for VBM to be counted. It has been done by Election Day. I do not understand why everyone doesn't do this. Texas does allow extra days for overseas ballots especially military
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)it was our first shot doing it as expansively ss this. We REALLY have to get it more efficient.
live love laugh
(13,104 posts)for in advance. Also if I lived in a red state I would not trust them to count my vote I would brave the polls instead.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)and what we've seen is that in the reddest red state with a shit ton of notice he got 6200 people to show. That won't prevent him from being forcibly removed by the Sgt At Arms ro US Marshals, or the men from Bellevue who want to take him away for his own safety.
leftieNanner
(15,084 posts)For his supporters to show up and surround the White House to protect him?
Yeah. Nobody showed up. All those boys with their big toy guns are chicken hearts and won't rally to his cause.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)That will cause utter chaos and be much harder to deal with
AleksS
(1,665 posts)Yup. He IS NOT trying to discredit the results.
He IS:
A) Telling us HIS gameplan for the election, and
B) Setting us up as defending vote-by-mail so that HIS cheating is legitimized.
Here's how November is going to go:
Lots of vote by mail.
Trump cheats his butt off.
IF we aren't prepared, then Trump wins the vote, and points to our defense of vote-by-mail to undercut any attacks/investigations on his cheating.
It's what he (and the right wing) DOES. If they know they are going to commit a crime, they accuse someone else of it FIRST.
The moral of the story is:
He is TELLING us THAT he is getting ready to cheat-by-mail.
He is TELLING us HOW he plans to cheat-by-mail.
We need to be ready and able to STOP his cheating-by-mail.
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,342 posts)lame54
(35,287 posts)Just shut off the power and put a lock on his fence
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)To Mara Lago. Then change locks.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Breaking the compact equals releasing them to their own affairs of state.
calimary
(81,238 posts)MarcA
(2,195 posts)Let drumph and his minions stay in the White House and play with themselves
without any power.
dmr
(28,347 posts)kskiska
(27,045 posts)"Stop the counting."
"Stop the testing."