Arizona megachurch claims Trump event will be safe because their air purification system kills '99.9

[soothsayer]

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/arizona-megachurch-claims-trump-event-will-be-safe-because-their-air-purification-system-kills-99-9-percent-of-covid-19/

Arizona megachurch claims Trump event will be safe because their air purification system kills ‘99.9 percent’ of COVID-19

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A megachurch pastor hosting a President Donald Trump rally this week in Arizona says he has installed an air purification system that he claims will kill the coronavirus.

Dream City Church Pastor Luke Barnett and chief financial officer Brendan Zastrow announced in a promotional video that Clean Air Exp had developed a product that would eliminate nearly all traces of the virus from the air, reported TMZ....

The Centers for Disease Control has not confirmed that ionization is effective against the coronavirus.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. But what if you inhale viruses before they get into the filtration system,

which is what's likely to happen. What good is it then, even assuming it actually works as advertised?

[soothsayer]

2. Shh, don't tell

[Disaffected]

3. Of course,

their claim is completely bogus.

[Ms. Toad]

14. You beat me to it. n/t

[GusBob]

19. I have been checking into such things for my offices

I happen to think these will be a wave of the future

There is a new system which claims to use UV light and filters to eliminate airborne bad things

[Takket]

20. That is the 0.1% lol

[Nevilledog]

4. Is this a faith-based filtration system?

If God loved them wouldn't it be 100% effective?

[saidsimplesimon]

5. What an opportunity

for those in the crowd to "press the corpulent flesh" of their "dear leader". I know, "Freedom" stupidity is not for everyone. I'll continue to "shelter in place" or take precautions.

"Let the hunger games begin."

[Cirque du So-What]

6. Bet it's got a mighty blower

COVID-19 loves good air circulation.

[grantcart]

7. The Church and Pastor are not "hosting"

They rented the auditorium and were unaware Trump was going to attend.

[Nevilledog]

11. They should cancel and refund the money.

Otherwise they own the hate.

[grantcart]

18. They should demand the Phoenix mask rule be self. In forced

And if anyone takes off their mask cut the electricity and air conditioning and keep the money.

[Vinca]

8. And maybe they'll hand out Trump cocktails (bleach, Lysol, fish tank cleaner and a drop of covfefe).

[fleur-de-lisa]

9. Please proceed, Pastor.

[Thomas Hurt]

10. ah the power of magical thinking.

[Initech]

12. I'm pretty sure that this technology only exists in Star Trek.

[bobbieinok]

13. Church is Asembly of God, pentecostal. Part of Dream Center network

Tommy Barnett, 1st pastor of this church, founded the first Dream Center in an extremely 'troubled' area of LA

That Center is now headed by his son Matthew. The Phoenix church is led by his son Luke.

There are now Dream Centers in poor areas of many cities. There is one in (North) Tulsa.

From what I have heard, Dream Centers have helped many people. (In 90s I knew young woman who worked in the one in Tulsa.

There is an article on Dream Center in Wikipedia

[Iliyah]

15. I forget which doctor said something like this . . .

Air conditioners and or air purifiers re-circulate the air . . therefore, the virus can be re-circulated back into the atmosphere in a given space.

[Girard442]

16. 99.9% of the time that car in oncoming traffic...

...won’t hit you. 99.9% of the time that person you encounter on the street isn’t the next Jeffrey Dahmer. 99.9% of the time your fast-food hamburger won’t have botulism.

Would those odds work for you?

[Wellstone ruled]

17. Hmmmm. Interesting.

So this Place uses 3M 2800 micron A/C filters,hmmmm.99.9 % effectiveness. Does not mention anything about Viral Spores on any of the disclaimers on my filter packaging. Do know they really keep the dust level down in the house.

[Doodley]

21. I use two 7 stage air purifiers that include UV light, ionizer, hepa, charcoal,

and electrostatic. Will filter down to .1 micron. Yes, makes a huge difference to air quality - we have long-haired pets. In fact, it is life-changing in the feeling of wellness. The accumulation of bad air particles in these machines in a week is incredible. But does that we can throw a party and be safe of Covid? No.

[Wellstone ruled]

22. Sounds like you have a Honeywell

April Aire System. Great system,had one in our old house.

[Doodley]

23. I have two portable Multitech machines. I use them both in the bedroom.

Sometimes I will feel a little short of breath or I get palpitations. I know that is because I haven't cleaned out the machines recently. I clean them out and half an hour later, I've recovered. This time of year when our dogs are shedding makes a huge difference.

[Wellstone ruled]

24. Also great units.

[Doodley]

25. Glad you have discovered mountain air indoors as well. I recommend them to anyone.

[Wellstone ruled]

26. We gave our units to

our Son whom has Allergies from hell. Really help him tons.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

27. That preacher is just asking for blowback with such a claim.

He cannot guarantee that audience attendees will breathe no virus droplets or aerosols because removal rate is a function of air exchange rate and a lot of other factors of physics. In order for such a claim to be even partially valid, the wind in the place would make you hair stand up.

His system only kills virus particles and particles entrained in aerosols and droplets that make it to the filtration system.

KY