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I misssed this Bill Maher discussion. This is literally a WTF? New Rule. (Original Post) TheBlackAdder Jun 2020 OP
It Is? ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #1
I don't want the coronavirus to spread JonLP24 Jun 2020 #12
Whatever, Jon ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #15
I'm not going to storm the beaches and malls and spread the virus to My mom JonLP24 Jun 2020 #16
I Don't Blame You ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #19
I live in Arizona where coronavirus cases are way up JonLP24 Jun 2020 #20
Here In Illinois... ProfessorGAC Jun 2020 #21
You're about to watch careless people reverse course. Hortensis Jun 2020 #28
you first bill maher. as far as i can tell, you've been a coward samsingh Jun 2020 #2
The younger people aren't invincible SoonerPride Jun 2020 #3
Bill is being an ass hat here, yes young people are getting sick Miigwech Jun 2020 #4
Exactly. SoonerPride Jun 2020 #6
Not only that but they increase the chances of it being spread to others. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #7
Yeah, that one really rubbed me wrong intrepidity Jun 2020 #5
Agreed, it was like listening to a Republican last Friday. womanofthehills Jun 2020 #23
Remember, Bill does not believe in germ theory Coleman Jun 2020 #8
Yet he's he's a raging pothead. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #29
I use it myself but boycotted Maher for years JonLP24 Jun 2020 #32
Oh, I think it should be legal. I'm fine with that. smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #33
I'm vegan JonLP24 Jun 2020 #34
He has given a helluva lot of money to Democrats. Tipperary Jun 2020 #31
Follow Trump's lead and do a live show in Florida. Initech Jun 2020 #9
He's not good at science stuff. Plus, he's probably bummed about his standup schedule. gulliver Jun 2020 #10
It is irresponsible to use a platform like this JonLP24 Jun 2020 #14
He has a pretty good batting average, imo. gulliver Jun 2020 #18
Bill's pissed he can't do live stand up edhopper Jun 2020 #11
Maher has been pushing reopening for weeks Trumpocalypse Jun 2020 #13
He's also an anti-vaxxer. Laffy Kat Jun 2020 #17
He can be funny - but he has a lot of libertarian views womanofthehills Jun 2020 #22
WTF !? Why not pushed for the 15 min test with tracing and quarantine & sentinel process so we can uponit7771 Jun 2020 #24
Wait a minute, PCIntern Jun 2020 #25
+1, I'm sure he will pay their bills once they're long to get ripped up by cv-19 uponit7771 Jun 2020 #35
Quarantine Maher is completely unwatchable. ecstatic Jun 2020 #26
I can't stand this smug asshole...n/m orwell Jun 2020 #27
"This is our time. You had yours." How's that for commitment Hortensis Jun 2020 #30

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
1. It Is?
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 05:56 PM
Jun 2020

I saw it on DVR. Wasn't his best, but I thought it was ok.
I share the view, but I'm not going to act on it.
Neither is he.
Above 60, it would be stupid. He said so, himself.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
12. I don't want the coronavirus to spread
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:17 PM
Jun 2020

I have a mother who is over 60.

Zoomers are better at bashing millenials, Maher is just pathetic.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
15. Whatever, Jon
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:21 PM
Jun 2020

I'm over 60.
I'm not for being risky.
But, I think it's unrealistic to think it's not going to happen anyway. The aggressive reopenings have created a sense among many, that it's over.
Combine that with the stir crazy aspect, and the activities resuming was inevitable.
He's not saying anything that wasn't going to happen anyway.
That's why I think the bit was ok.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
16. I'm not going to storm the beaches and malls and spread the virus to My mom
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:23 PM
Jun 2020

She really doesn't want the virus so I'm going to respect her.

BTW I wonder what generations served in post 9-11 wars?

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
19. I Don't Blame You
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:36 PM
Jun 2020

However, I think you're outnumbered.
Here in NE Illinois, in <3 weeks, I've seen mask compliance go from more than 95% to less than 2 in 3.
The most likely resistors were under 40, easily. Most of them appear to be under 30.
People not so far personally affected are already in the "time to move on" mode.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
20. I live in Arizona where coronavirus cases are way up
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:40 PM
Jun 2020

Every time I went out which was rarely I always saw cars on the road we were never a ghost town during this thing that is probably why I'm more upset than I would be.

This virus is very stressful and Trump hasn't helped out at all.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
21. Here In Illinois...
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 07:00 PM
Jun 2020

...we're well down the slope from the peak and the governor is holding the line on phase triggers.
And I'm seeing the laxity here. We were losing over a hundred people a day for 4 weeks, but people relaxed pretty darned fast.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
28. You're about to watch careless people reverse course.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 08:25 PM
Jun 2020

Why so badly underestimate the ability of people be careful when they believe the lives of those they care about could depend on it? When they already demonstrated their capability? When genuine concern is measured by polls taken of people not out in the pix the media lead their bleed with?

In any case, we'll see. Inevitably, in fact. After all, epidemiologists say this has become the huge disaster they feared.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
3. The younger people aren't invincible
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:01 PM
Jun 2020

They get it and get sick

Some VERY sick

So they may not die in the same numbers as older people but a lot of the under 30 crowd still needs medical care. They should be denied care if they are so cavalier about the virus. They have no right to ignore all safety concerns then place health care workers at risk to heal them from their stupidity.

600 health care workers have died already. So if these “young invincibles” act irresponsibly then they don’t get to place health care workers at risk.

Maher is wrong on this. Dead wrong.

 

Miigwech

(3,741 posts)
4. Bill is being an ass hat here, yes young people are getting sick
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:04 PM
Jun 2020

and dying, or suffer major lasting health issues.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
6. Exactly.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:05 PM
Jun 2020

I talked about this very issue with my Judy after we watched the show.

He seems desperate to go out to eat like that’s the greatest thrill of living. 🙄

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
7. Not only that but they increase the chances of it being spread to others.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:06 PM
Jun 2020

They could catch it and be asymptomatic or come down with a mild case of it, but still spread it to someone who is immune compromised or otherwise in a high-risk group. This was one of his worst segments ever. It actually made me sick.

Coleman

(853 posts)
8. Remember, Bill does not believe in germ theory
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:11 PM
Jun 2020

People get disease by not eating healthy and treating your body like a slum. NOT GERMS

I could never understand the love for him here. Yes he does have some good ideas and attacks idiots. But he is a libertarian, not a Democrat. And not believing in germ theory makes him an moron.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
29. Yet he's he's a raging pothead.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:40 PM
Jun 2020


I don't have an issue with people who smoke pot. I never really liked it. It just never really agreed with me.

What does bother me is when people who get high constantly get all self-righteous about how "healthy" they are because of the way they eat and tell you pot is fine because it's "natural". Pot smokers tend to have more frequent lung illnesses and a higher risk of lung infection such as bronchitis, etc. Even though pot is not as carcinogenic as most brands of cigarettes, it is not with out its negative effects on the body.

It has also been found to have long term effects on cognitive functioning, especially if you start at an early age. There are other damaging effects of regular marijuana use, but I won't go into it, and I don't really care. It's not the worst drug out there. I just can't stand it when people who are daily tokers present themselves as the paragons of health and wellness.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
32. I use it myself but boycotted Maher for years
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:48 PM
Jun 2020

We are certainly not a monolith. My issue is how it became illegal in the first place. During the same era we legalized alcohol FDR had a very racist drug czar. Racism is part of what led these drugs to be illegal in the first place.

Also the US has the highest incarceration rate in the world and these drug wars have gotten out of control since Nixon. It is also a Schedule I drug.

Personally I don't like alcohol and it is far more addictive with worse side effects while cannabis is very benign.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
33. Oh, I think it should be legal. I'm fine with that.
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:31 AM
Jun 2020

And I agree that alcohol can be much worse for you than pot. I don't have an issue w/ most pot smokers.

It's just that there is a certain "type" of pothead, not all of them, who is super self-righteous about everything, including how healthy they are - everything is "natural", organic, vegan, etc..., however they are still can't go more than a few hours w/out getting high. It just seems kind of ironic to me, and it is definitely annoying.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
34. I'm vegan
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:57 AM
Jun 2020

Though mostly for environmental reasons.

Plant-based diet can fight climate change - UN

A major report on land use and climate change says the West's high consumption of meat and dairy produce is fuelling global warming.

But scientists and officials stopped short of explicitly calling on everyone to become vegan or vegetarian.

They said that more people could be fed using less land if individuals cut down on eating meat.

(Snip)

"We're not telling people to stop eating meat. In some places people have no other choice. But it's obvious that in the West we're eating far too much," said Prof Pete Smith, an environmental scientist from Aberdeen University, UK.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/science-environment-49238749

This is more of a problem in the UK & US with factory farming. I'm not self righteous about it or preach just trying to do what I can for the environment & explaining why I stopped eating meat.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
14. It is irresponsible to use a platform like this
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:20 PM
Jun 2020

It pains me he has a show and better informed people have to write articles correcting him. He is also often covered in RW news sources for his left bashing.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
18. He has a pretty good batting average, imo.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:26 PM
Jun 2020

I skip anything he says about viruses or PETA and maybe a few other subjects.

edhopper

(33,567 posts)
11. Bill's pissed he can't do live stand up
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jun 2020

I like him for what he is. But on this he is being an antivaxer asshat.

 

Trumpocalypse

(6,143 posts)
13. Maher has been pushing reopening for weeks
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 06:18 PM
Jun 2020

He’s probably losing money because he can’t do his stand up act.

womanofthehills

(8,697 posts)
22. He can be funny - but he has a lot of libertarian views
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 07:25 PM
Jun 2020

Last Fri, he was upset about the unemployed getting their weekly $600, thinks if everyone eats well - they won’t get Covid, people need to get back to work (while he is isolating)... All of this coming from a person who has lots of money. My grandson is getting the extra $600 and it’s enabled him to fix his car. He doesn’t realize what a big help that is to the average worker. Many do not have jobs to go back to.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
24. WTF !? Why not pushed for the 15 min test with tracing and quarantine & sentinel process so we can
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 07:33 PM
Jun 2020

... get back to close to normal ?!

PCIntern

(25,531 posts)
25. Wait a minute,
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 07:50 PM
Jun 2020

This asshole standing in his garden protected by fencing and delivery men and a whole host of things which the rich can afford. And he’s telling young people to go out and party with a few caveats. This is beyond absurd and who doesn’t come in to contact with older or susceptible people?

I think that’s correct that he’s tired of not making as much money and figures it’s his turn to get back in the swing of things. So for him I say in my best Maher tone: fuck you Bill.

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
26. Quarantine Maher is completely unwatchable.
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jun 2020

A few months ago, I decided I was done with him--for the 3rd and final time. I think.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
30. "This is our time. You had yours." How's that for commitment
Mon Jun 22, 2020, 09:42 PM
Jun 2020

to the principles of enlightened individualism over the statism we should have left behind centuries ago, for the right of the individual to exist? For commitment to equality and to the rights to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, among others?

To suggest young people have a duty to put themselves at risk instead of following the earnest pleadings of epidemiologists, knowing that lives would be sacrificed that don't have to be?

By denying the right of individuals to the equal protection of and membership in society, he's already hinting at the same-old evil duty to die, for young warriors for the economy who can produce and for people who're no longer producing economically. Or were never able. If fascism did take over, he'd already be within the last few hops to safe membership in the ruling cabal.

Whatta creep.

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