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BannonsLiver

(16,342 posts)
2. Hard to disagree
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jun 2020

More specifically what’s on life support is democracy and real law and order and justice.

Dan

(3,541 posts)
7. I agree, and believe
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:39 AM
Jun 2020

That if Trump is re-elected, the nation will be ungovernable. I think Trump will need the U.S. Military to control the population, and that we will start an active phase of the second Civil War.

Dan

(3,541 posts)
11. Think outside the box....
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:47 AM
Jun 2020

Civil War in war without faces....conflicts in the shadows.... and rather than a short war, it will be a war that never ends.

sarisataka

(18,539 posts)
13. It has often been said here
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 12:52 AM
Jun 2020

that the pop guns civilians own are no match for the tanks, bombers and drones of the US military.

It is one of the central arguments for the Second Amendment being obsolete. Any civilian attempt to fight against the government will be rolled over in a day

Dan

(3,541 posts)
15. It would be stupidity for the civilian population to attempt to take on the military
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:04 AM
Jun 2020

And I wasn’t implying that...

I suspect that the military is 40% POC - and now, I think it is becoming apparent that the military has no plans to be Trump’s faithful lover.

Civil War even in the shadows, does not restrict itself to just the civilian sector.

Post Vietnam - I think Ford was POTUS, there was discussions about the U.S. military going into Africa because the Cubans (medical support) were there, and that was unacceptable to the U.S. government. Now, it’s been a long time ago, but I do believe after that discussion became part of the military discussions - a nuclear carrier was sabotaged, the NORAD base in the Dakotas(?) ended up in a free-for-all in the mess hall; and I know for a fact that our company commander was relieved of duty after it was stated that we could start the war in the states.

Do not believe that any person has total control over this nation, without the consent of the governed.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
17. A civil war in the US today would be more like Northern ireland on steroids...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:27 AM
Jun 2020

...a low-mid level conflict of militias and endless assassinations. The regular army could find itself helpless in the face of such a situation, just like the British army was. This sort of war might indeed go on for years, decades, just like in Ireland...

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
16. Yep and you know what else?
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:23 AM
Jun 2020

Hurricane season is just getting warmed up.

In 2004, more than eight tropical cyclones brushed or struck the United States. Altogether, they added to more than $61 billion in damages. Four hurricanes struck Florida that year: Charley, Frances, Ivan and Jeanne.

The 2005 five season was the most active in recorded history, with seven major hurricanes, four of which were Category 5. The season's grand total in damages was $171.7 billion.

Considering the current financial state, the civil unrest and the pandemic, having an Andrew or Katrina cut through the COVID-wracked southeast right now would greatly add to the atmosphere of destabilization.

CousinIT

(9,234 posts)
18. Earth and with it all of Humanity are teetering on the edge...
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 01:40 AM
Jun 2020

... While the Twit whines and tweets...

'This Scares Me,' Says Bill McKibben as Arctic Hits 100.4°F—Hottest Temperature on Record

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/22/scares-me-says-bill-mckibben-arctic-hits-1004degf-hottest-temperature-record

onetexan

(13,033 posts)
19. Been that way since the Idiot stole the election
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 05:37 AM
Jun 2020

We do not have a funcrioning government. Everything is off the rails. November cant come soon enough.

onethatcares

(16,165 posts)
20. when the $600.00 UC checks stop
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 08:28 AM
Jun 2020

and the real cost of foreclosures/evictions/job losses/hunger and healthcare come to the front, this country is not going to know what hit it.

the government seems to be dancing around all of the above instead of doing any planning for it.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
21. And we're only on Step One of the conversion program
Tue Jun 23, 2020, 08:31 AM
Jun 2020

To full-blown fascism.

I'm afraid the 2020 election will give rise to the ultimate demise of the US Constitution. The past four years have only set the stage.

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