Is Amy McGrath THE "establishment candidate?"

[lillypaddle]

I think she is getting the ol' sexist treatment. Most veterans are treated with reverence, and she is a retired Marine fighter pilot. AOC and Bernie Sanders are really pushing her opponent, and honestly, I'm not 'against' him, I'm just for Amy. Last time Elizabeth Warren backed Amy, this time she isn't. I've even heard her referred to as the pro-trump democrat. WTF is going on?

Does anyone see this the same way I do?

I've already voted by mail. Fingers crossed that Amy takes this thing.

[wryter2000]

1. Bernie and AOC

Need to get a reality check. The establishment Dem is the only hope of winning that seat.

Even AOC has acknowledged she wouldn't be right for every district.

[treestar]

5. So true

This is Kentucky. They need to concentrate on districts where they can win like AOCs district.

[lillypaddle]

7. +1000 nt

[JonLP24]

43. Booker beats McGrath vs McConnell in the polls

Crystal ball people are often wrong.

[Laelth]

2. Kentucky Democrats are about to tell us.

Theirs are the only opinions that count.

-Laelth

[lillypaddle]

4. That's true

but you can't tell me a barrage of negatives against someone doesn't make a difference. Amirite?

[Laelth]

6. You are right.

Mercifully, this dispute should be resolved soon.

-Laelth

[Demsrule86]

11. Not in the General...you need GOP voters to beat McConnell and who knows what the

situation will be in November. A moderate ex-soldier could beat McConnell with some GOP crossover which could happen depending on how dire our situation is in November...her opponent has little chance IMHO. Now let me say beating McConnell is a long shot...make no mistake, but let's try to field the best candidate we can.

[empedocles]

14. However, primaries are not the best place for choosing the best candidate

The history of the BS early primaries is a harsh, historical example.

2018 and the alleged 'blue wave' provides another harsh, history lesson - aggressively ignored by some

[Awsi Dooger]

22. Primaries are supposed to be for intelligent choices

The Sanders wing has no clue about that type of thing.

It was never going to stop with the Andrew Gillum idiocy in Florida 2018. They will nominate the lesser candidate in one race after another if their ignorance is not countered from within.

Bernie Sanders needs to be out of the way so nobody has any reason to care about him 1%

[empedocles]

27. Lets hope Ky Senator vote does not get 'the treatment'

[JonLP24]

44. I disagree

Clinton lost to Trump. You guys made that move not Sanders supporters.

f it wasn't for the Sanders wing the Democrats would lose my vote as a solid liberal while you guys chase moderates or Republicans.

Booker beats McGrath vs McConnell in the polls.

I also remember the endless arguments in favor on Grimes and she lost

[mucifer]

3. As long as they unite against mcconnell

[Demsrule86]

8. She is the only candidate who might beat McConnell. I am hoping all the noise on the left will

amount to nothing. I doubt McConnell is going to lose but let's take our best chance .and McGrath is good candidate for Kentucky. I dislike these sort of attacks that I have seen against McGrath from the left...shame on them.

[StarfishSaver]

9. I'm sick of people being accused of being "Establishment" as a pejorative

What in the hell does that mean anyway?

If it means trying to make change by working within systems with the goal of improving them and making them fairer and more responsive to the people they impact and putting enough time in to have "established" oneself with enough credibility and influence therein to actually make a difference, I am proud to be "Establishment."

And I'm likely much more effective and true to the cause than anyone on the outside who thinks that advocacy is limited to standing on the outside calling me and people like me names and accusing us of selling out.

[JaneQPublic]

15. "Establishment" is used as a pejorative by those who want dearly to become the "Establishment." (nt)

[StarfishSaver]

16. True

I think if you've been in public life for 20, 30 or 40 years and you're NOT part of an establishment - either an existing one that you're changing from within or one you've created - you're doing it all wrong. You're not making a difference - you're just making a lot of noise.

[napi21]

10. I think the Dems who are supporting the "new guy on the block" are doing so because they think

with all the demonstrations, they'll do better supporting the Black candidate. Look at how much effort is going into Joe picking a Black Woman. I'm sure no politician & could never survive as one, but I feel like they're all pandering & I HATE THAT! Should just be honest and you';; get more votes because people will trust you.

[standingtall]

26. and that Amy McGrath is a retread candidate she lost in 2018

Which was not a State wide election, but congressional race in the 2nd most Democratic district in the State. I think many people are under the impression she ran a State wide election and barely lost She didn't. Which is why I think many cannot understand what might happen in Kentucky today.

[Corgigal]

30. She's also weak,

and just phoning it in. Best job in the world, do nothing but make million dollar commercials.
Clap...clap.

Booker has passion and game. He running all over the place and working for it. My house voted for him and gave him money. He will have no problem calling Mitch corrupt.

Mitch already has been caught on camera laughing at Amy’s grafts , shit isn’t funny. Saying she would have voted in Kavanaugh, what a idiot.

[napi21]

36. I don't live in KY. so it doesn't matter what I think. I just want someone who can send the Turtle

packing! I want the Dems to win a majority, bt I still want Turtle GONE! He makes life miserable for EVERYONE!!!!

[Corgigal]

37. I understand,

and I just moved to Kentucky 2 years ago. My first vote against Mitch, Hurray.

I will vote for the fighter and the hard worker, because we’re not going to dump Mitch any other way. Got to fight dirty, often and deadly.

[LiberalFighter]

12. Any Democrat that is not supported by their progressive values are Establishment Democrats.

[Tech]

13. Serious question. Are progressives going after any republicans? Is the media only showing

Runs against dems? Is it because it's the primaries or because they like to see blood? Or is it part of divide and conquor? I am really trying hard not to be snarky about it. I see a lot of positive in what progressives are trying to do, but really dislike the division it creates. And I always feel personally attacked even though I have voted " progressive" since before it was called so and progressive referred to a type of radio station and rock music.

[comradebillyboy]

18. Some people think that purifying the party is more

important than winning elections.

[lillypaddle]

20. Some people

are fucked up.

[brooklynite]

17. Is anyone who supports a male candidate against a female candidate "sexist"?

I think McGrath is the best candidate to run against McConnell (although still likely to lose), but it's perfectly understandable that people might choose Booker because he's a Bernie-style progressive or (in the current environment) an African-American.

[lillypaddle]

19. No, I didn't mean to imply that nt

[Wanderlust988]

21. She's getting hammered on the air for not going to a protest

And Booker called her out for not talking about Breonna Taylor's murder in Louisville. He said that she won't even mention her name.

[RhodeIslandOne]

23. I just hope they don't ask Amy who she voted for in 2016

Down in Kentucky it seems to be verboten.

[rogue emissary]

24. That same question could sink Booker.

[standingtall]

25. If McGrath loses this thing then maybe Amy McGrath's campaign is part of the problem

Her campaign hasn't been calling people in Jefferson county. While Booker's campaign has been calling people in Jefferson County every day. You cannot ignore or concede the largest and most Democratic and expect election day to easy for you. Not Bernie Sanders types that have endorsed Booker so has Alison Lundergan Grimes and Greg Stumbo neither of which would be considered far left wingers.

[Wanderlust988]

28. She neglected Lexington in her congressional campaign

And that's why she lost against Rep. Barr. It boggles my mind why she hired the same failed campaign manager. Black people in Kentucky are not happy with her at all cause of silence on Breonna Taylor.

[lillypaddle]

40. I live in Lexington

And her campaign is driving me nuts with phone calls. Haven't gotten a single one from Booker.

[empedocles]

29. If Amy loses, it will be, because of the usual 'activist' Dems who do primary damage.

[standingtall]

31. McGrath is not entitiled to the nomination on name recognition alone

If she's is really such a great candidate then she should have no problem winning this election "despite activist Dems".

[empedocles]

32. Amy is the candidate to beat moscow mitch. 'Activists' often support November losers.

Activists would have given us BS for this November fight - and, its downticket problems.

[standingtall]

33. If she's the candidate to beat Mitch

Then why couldn't she beat Andy Barr in 2018? Much easier to defeat Barr than it would be to defeat Mitch McConnell in a State wide election.

[empedocles]

35. Senator Schumer endorsed Amy because he wants a shot at having that Senate seat.

Activists obstinately refuse to learn from 2018 where the Dem House was won - despite the 'activists'.

[JI7]

38. Sanders who has been in office for decades is wayyyyy more establishment

than anyone.

[onetexan]

39. cough*cough* pot calling kettle black cough*cough*

[betsuni]

41. +1

[Sunsky]

45. +1000

That fact isn't lost on the voters. Kinda hypocritical and one of the many reasons he keeps losing presidential primary elections.

[JonLP24]

42. The party establishment did back her

McSally is also a veteran fighter pilot.

As a veteran I think the Democrats have a weak strategy of recruiting veterans to run as moderate Democrats. It goes back to when Republicans called us cowardly over foreign policy so Democrats forfeit the argument to the right.

There are progressive veterans out there. Common Defense is a group of progressive veterans.