Trump just let the cat out of the bag at the Phoenix campaign "rally"...

[SKKY]

...If he loses, and states allow voting by mail en masse, this is going to the courts. No doubt about it. Yes, I watched the whole thing, so you're welcome DU Fam. I took one for the team so you didn't have to sit through it. And now, I need to go take a shower. I feel icky.

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. And he will refuse to leave while he hopes a SICK FUCK judge gets to rule in his favor

It is going to be a shit show and there will be violence because putin has ordered it.

[Mr. Ected]

4. If he loses and refuses to leave, you bet there's going to be violence

We've had 4 years of neofascist rule where laws only apply to the enemy. We are the enemy. Every. One. Of. Us.

If we're denied the just fruits of a national election, I can assure you, there will be no more chances to regain our democracy. It's now or never. If we don't fight it, we've lost it.

The question is how will the government and the military respond? That's the real frightening part.

[wnylib]

43. Yes, that is the real frightening part.

How will the government and the military respond?

And how will Trump's armed fascist militias respond? Will they decide.to take a stand in protecting Trump from removal by US marshalls? Who would have the authority to order the marshalls to remove Trump and will the marshalls obey the order? Or will they say to wait for a (rigged) court decision? We've been down that road before.

Will red state governors take a stand with Trump?

Very messy. Possibly very violent.

[Dem2theMax]

5. That's why I think the fence is around the White House.

He's already planning for November. He's not going to leave willingly.

[Eliot Rosewater]

12. I pray to GOD the DNC and Biden camp are preparing for GOP and traitor

to do ANYTHING including violence.

[Dem2theMax]

14. I have a feeling they are prepared.

Our side actually believes in the rule of law. And I think they will put it to good use.

[Eliot Rosewater]

16. I am wondering how though...the other side owns judges, does NOT believe in the law.

I think it really does come down to generals, admirals and military and police.

Are they patriots or arent they, cuz that fucking traitor aint going nowhere.

The traitor criminal killers control the DOJ, Barr will order our deaths without hesitation if he can. Traitor will order our deaths.

[Dem2theMax]

17. Maybe it's holding on to hope, maybe it's believing that people will do the right thing,

But I really believe that people will stand up to Trump and politely remove him from the White House.

I feel like this country has been pushed too far, and we are finally seeing people stand up to what is happening. I have to believe that the Patriots will stand up for the Constitution and the rule of law. If I don't believe in that, shoot me now.

[wnylib]

45. How do you "politely" remove

someone who refuses to go? Who will stop at nothing in order to stay?

[Mr.Bill]

27. If they want to go that way, they made one huge mistake.

They sold us 300,000,000 guns and several billion rounds of ammo.

And don't think every cop in this country doesn't know that.

[TexasTowelie]

2. Thousands of our members in the military vote by mail.

If the courts say that voting by mail carries too extreme a risk of fraud, then do they also intend to invalidate the ballots cast by those military members?

Hopefully the courts will simply throw out any lawsuits that Trump might file as frivolous.

[uponit7771]

3. +1

[Mr.Bill]

29. Every Democratic elected official and candidate

in the country needs to frame this as "Donald Trump doesn't want the military to be allowed to vote."

[Laura PourMeADrink]

42. +1... Although doesn't it feel like we are 109% alone ?

[onetexan]

35. Ditto. He's blustering. His lawsuit won't hold water and he'll be thrown out to the curb and

hopefully into prison to rot once NYAG catches up to his crimes eventually.

[Thekaspervote]

44. Thank you!! A voice of sanity

[SKKY]

55. Oh I agree with you. I myself voted by mail for 14 of my 20 year...

...Navy career as I was overseas. I'm just saying, he's taking this to the courts if he loses. November to Jan of this year is going to be a bumpy ride.

[ace3csusm]

6. We have a traitor in the white house...Everyone needs to let it sink in...

This man has ruined our country ...we will all see when investigation start ... but it wont just be him all those around him will also be hauled in and try to say that old i was just following orders or i was being black mailed...Dont forget the RNC was also hacked... it will all come around to this moment...We will have the first President convicted of treason....

[Buckeye_Democrat]

7. I can confirm it.

Watched that part on "America's Voice" using Pluto TV (free streaming service).

[brush]

8. They don't want vote by mail because then they can't close polling places in...

black and brown neighborhoods, or furnish broken voting machines/no extension cords, or voting machines with no paper trail but with proprietary software only repug election officials have privy to.

In other words, they can't suppress the vote if there is vote by mail.

They're not fooling anyone.

[bdamomma]

10. thus their

sick ploy of not funding the post offices. We all got to VOTE no matter what.

[brush]

11. Yes, they'll try every trick in the book.

[yellowdogintexas]

31. it will take far longer than 5 months to close the USPS

They are in for a big fight in Congress and it will take a long time.
#BuyStamps

[not_the_one]

60. Don't forget that the turd has just appointed HIS OWN POSTMASTER GENERAL of the USPS.

Just like his "fixer" Bar-Bar at the DOJ.

So technically, the turd has control of all those mail-in ballots.

Think about it. Every post office would have a bin for those ballots. All it takes is one person who works in that post office to be a trump humper, and those ballots can be "dealt with".

If enough of them disappear, or are tainted, he will want to invalidate the election. He will declare martial law.

If he loses and won't leave, then the military/police will have to remove him. That could go either way...

He is playing a dangerous game. If it gets to that point, and he is removed by force, it will be in handcuffs. He will never see the light of day again.

If he isn't removed, the White House will be surrounded by his supporters, who will be surrounded by the rest of US. We've got guns, too. So either way, he is going down.

Donald Trump is a COWARD. His private plane is sitting on the tarmac at this moment, fueled up and ready to go. He will flee, like the coward that he is.

His little made for teevee spectacle of descending the escalator, with paid actors to applaud him, his whore wife behind him, and with Putin's backing, was the worst decision he ever made.

His brand is shit, his name is synonymous to failure and LOSER. He and his entire family will be in jail.

All because he has such thin skin, and couldn't take a joke.

[Blue_true]

21. If people wait until Election Day in places that have early voting, they are

participating in their own victimization, IMO.

We know that republicans are going to play tricks on Election Day when that is the only game in town, yet, too many of our voters fall into their trap.

[yellowdogintexas]

38. seriously: Vote Early if you can (Texas has 10 days of early voting!)

go early on Election Day.
use Vote By Mail if available.
double check your registration at least 6 weeks out from election day so you have time to fix it.

Some states have special drop boxes for ballots so they go straight to the Elections Office, same day.
In Arizona and Georgia, these boxes are located all over the place: PO, grocery stores, libraries, schools, etc. The Elections folks pick up ballots from those boxes at least once a day. I have seen the Georgia ones, and they are metal with slot in top and are locked.

Many counties in Texas have the Voting Center system. Here is how it works: On Election Day, one can vote anywhere in the county; and are not restricted to one's home precinct. So no more showing up at 5 til 7 and finding out your precinct is across the county. Nope, we will just let you vote, right there, right then. We will have 285 open voting centers on Election Day.

[shanti]

24. And LOTS of repuke money

in those voting machine companies. Ivanka?

[onetexan]

36. exactamundo K&R

[wnylib]

52. But they could have election officials

In select areas toss out ballots for Biden and Dem candidates for the Senate and House.

They can also tamper with electoral delegates through bribes and threats.

[bdamomma]

9. the stupid ass

how many times did he vote by mail. All roads lead to PUTIN, they own his ass.

[Wawannabe]

13. Thanks for the info

And for the TEAM spirit! Lol!

[marie999]

15. It won't work.

If he takes every state he loses to court, the Democrats will take every state they lose to court. The ballots will not be certified by January 20, 2021. Since no president is elected and the Constitution is very clear that his presidency and pence's vice-presidency end on January 20, 2021, the Speaker of the House becomes president. The Secret Service will not hold allegiance to him and will kick him out of the WH. The Supreme Court, military, and Congress will refuse to back him. That is if it gets that far. I believe The Supreme Court stop it.

[lastlib]

23. We have federal courts stacked with Federalists. We cannot count on them to stop Shitgibbon/GOPee.

[kyburbonkid]

30. And you have to wonder who's master do the Federalist server?

It's not the Constitution or 'We the People'.

[Xolodno]

18. In Bolton's book...

....Trump wanted to get rid of the two term limit so he could run for a third or even fourth term.

[yellowdogintexas]

33. well that is a Constitutional Amendment and those things take years

to get through the system

[Xolodno]

48. True.

But if he some how wins the election Nov. 3rd. On Nov. 4th he will immediately propose try to have it repealed, even if it takes all four years.

[keithbvadu2]

19. Are they going to protect the integrity of our military members voting?

What is Barr/Trump doing to ensure the security/integrity of the mail-in ballot system for our troops overseas?

Or is this just another example that they do not care about our troops?

[yellowdogintexas]

34. that is all handled by the individual states.

Overseas voters, whether military or not, send their ballots to their place of registration in the states. THey do not take a detour to some obscure Federal clearing house first. They go right to the address, just like a letter to their mama

[keithbvadu2]

37. "THey do not take a detour to some obscure Federal clearing house first."

Does that happen to other mail-in votes?

[Tennessee Hillbilly]

20. Here's what will probably happen:

Chief Justice Roberts will give Biden the oath of office. This will make Biden the commander-in-chief. Biden will then order the military to remove trump from the white house. The military will obey the order.

[Blue_true]

22. The Secret Service would remove Trump. No military needed.

He will still have a protective detail as an ex-president, but they won't violate the law.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

54. Will he have protective detail

In a prison cell?

[Blue_true]

56. I would guess that he would.

If you are expecting an ex-president to be sent to prison as long as we have a democracy, that won't happen. Trump can be disgraced by the truth, but he won't spend a day in jail, unfortunately.

[Thekaspervote]

46. This!!

[wnylib]

53. Roberts took sides during the impeachment.

Why would the election be different? If Trump contests the election results, and holds up the vote certification, Roberts can't swear in somebody whose votes are not certified.

[SKKY]

57. I sincerely hope that is the case. I really do...

...I would love to see that idiot perp-walked out of the White House, with they whole freaking clan behind him crying, faces in a state of shock because they know what is coming. I don't wish bad things on the Trumps. I wish justice on the Trumps.

[Tess49]

25. I feel icky just reading about it. You probably had to shower in Clorox after watching it. n/t

[SergeStorms]

26. I recommend steam cleaning.

A simple shower will not get the ground-in slime removed from your skin. Thank you for taking one for the team. It's a gesture that never gets the amount of respect it deserves.

[BootinUp]

28. this coward is just spewing more tRump trademark empty boasts/threats. nt

[dalton99a]

32. It is clear that he will not leave the White House willingly.

[Ilsa]

39. Bless you for doing that.

I can't stand to listen to him.

Scrub well to get the stink off.

[world wide wally]

40. I'll get one million of my closest friends to surround the White House and shout, "get the fuck out"

Starting Nov 4, 2020

[getagrip_already]

41. The goal is to prevent certification to the electoral college.... not a court challenge to throw o

Suppose biden gets to 280 electoral votes, and that includes a win in FL.

All they have to do is work with the FL gov and ag to not certify the votes so they with hold sending electors to the EC.

Then, Biden doesn't get to 270 (but neither does trump).

In this case, it goes to a special vote in the house of representatives - but each state can only choose one rep to vote. That rep is chosen by the state legislature. Advantage GOP.

In this case, the GOP will select the next president. It's all in the constitution. It couldn't be over turned. The bastards will win.

The ONLY way we could overcome this is with a landslide victory of 400+ EC votes. That way we could still get to 270 without some states we win even being counted.

This isn't a conspiracy theory. It's right there in the constitution.

[LymphocyteLover]

47. fuck this evil POS-- he has to lose by a big enough margin that the outcome is not in doubt

It must be a Biden landslide

[TruckFump]

49. Any judge can swear the president into office.

Those of us who are older remember Lyndon Johnson being sworn in on Air Force One.

The electors vote and the vote is certified for Biden. IMO, game over for the Orange Asshole. Biden is now C in C if any judge swears him in. Who do you think the military is gonna follow?

Hoping if tRump tries to bunker down in the WH, it could play out like this. I would love to see him drug out of the WH, make-up smeared and hair askew.

[BannonsLiver]

50. I don't care what he says.

[George II]

51. My sympathies. Intense psychotherapy may wipe the memory of the "rally" from you brain....

...where did you see it? MSNBC and CNN didn't show a single minute of it.

[tazkcmo]

58. Thank you for your service! nt

[Marrah_Goodman]

59. If he loses and refuses to leave the secret service will escort him out.

[SKKY]

62. I would pay to watch that.

[Marrah_Goodman]

63. So would I!!!!!!!!

[Blue Owl]

61. K&R