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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think Amy McGrath will lose based on Lexington
Astonished that Booker won 70% of the vote in Lexington for today's in-person voting at Univ. of Kentucky's football stadium. Lexington is in Amy's backyard and she ran in the 6th CD in 2018. This is her home. If the absentee ballots show anything close to today's tally, I don't see how she wins the state. Booker will romp in Louisville. The results we show right now don't even tally Louisville at all.
chillfactor
(7,573 posts)oasis
(49,365 posts)sfstaxprep
(9,998 posts)Otherwise he will block EVERYTHING the Democrats want to pass.
BannonsLiver
(16,342 posts)But with an Our Revolution candidate even trying is a waste of time. Hopefully now people will focus on donating to winnable races in other states.
Karadeniz
(22,486 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,342 posts)Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)Turnout is a sloppy desperate ignorant explanation after the fact. Meanwhile the reason races are lost is that swing voters rejected the candidate. The most common reason the candidate is rejected is due to ideology. That will happen in Kentucky if Booker is the nominee. A state with 42% self-identified conservatives and only 23% self-identified liberals is not going to vote for the more progressive Democrat. This was another case of incompetent handicapping and application by our primary voters, just like Florida 2018 with Andrew Gillum.
In primaries the numbers flow like water in a fish tank. In general elections those stacks of liberals and conservatives are like unbendable fortresses that dictate the outcome.
Everyone loves to fixate on the most recent example, whether it's a sporting event or election. That's why turnout is so overhyped recently. It is convenient to recite Hillary 2016 and those handful of states while obsessing over turnout and ignoring everything else. We should be cherishing the big picture and understand that preference dictates outcomes. Jamey Comey changed preference in 2016.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)He completely redefined HRC as both a public figure and a human being.
What he did to her was disgraceful.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)plus he's riding the George Floyd zeitgeist. So can we really guess at this point?
I have some natural sympathy with McGrath, working so long and hard to be displaced almost frivolously by someone who'd been ignored by the voters until distant events shifted the political mood. But stopping the enormous damage McConnell destructive power is doing to our nation and futures is my interest in this race.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)A progressive candidate also helps rightwing turnout. The bigger the ideological gap between candidates, the more the fringes on both ends are motivated.
In Kentucky this is a easy way to lose, as the far right is much larger than the far left.
This is why in 2018 for the PA house,l seats, all of our pickups were with somewhat moderate candidates. In most areas there just aren't enough progressives to carry the election.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)There were endless arguments saying she has to run this way as this the only way she can beat Mitch. She lost. Ironically she endorsed Booker.
I hope all those Democrats outside the state who sent funds to Mcgrath who wanted to beat Mitch so bad will extend similar support to whoever wins.
Amishman
(5,554 posts)Hillary was a good candidate and was well positioned ideologically with her policies, but ran a very poor campaign.
The tougher the location, the better the campaign must be. To win somewhere as red as Kentucky you either need the right candidate plus a good campaign, and/or some huge unforced errors by our opponent. Alabama Senate and Kentucky governor are two cases where we needed and got both.
pnwmom
(108,973 posts)Celerity
(43,240 posts)and that last poll (valid or not I cannot truly say it is just one poll and may have been an outlier) showed Booker getting closer to Moscow Mitch than McGrath
the Our Revoluton boogeyman tripe is really getting tiresome
it treats legit candidates like Booker like they are some sort of marionettes, which I find problematic at best
Cenk left them years ago now
they are a spent force
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Booker was actually out polling Joe Biden in the state in the last poll that I saw.
SKKY
(11,801 posts)...He will turn out Louisville/Lexington in big enough numbers to counter Cleatus and Lucian in the east and west of the state.
mvd
(65,169 posts)While progressives might not be the best to run in all areas (though I wish they could win everywhere), Booker actually seems more politically astute to me in addition to having policies I like.
SKKY
(11,801 posts)...she announced her candidacy told me she didn't have a chance against Moscow Mitch. Now, I am voting for whoever the Democrat is against Moscow Mitch, obviously, and I would feel much better about Booker. But, I was a John Edwards supporter, so do take my opinion with a big fat grain of pink Himalayan salt.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Booker feels like a fighter, who will get dirty. The only way to dump Mitch.