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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:00 AM Jun 2020

June 24th, 2020: Biden Leads Trump Beyond Margin of Error in All Battleground States but One

According to RCP's poll of polls (MoE reported are largest of polls taken):

Nationally:
Biden: +9.8 (MoE: 4.0)

WI:
Biden: +5.4 (MoE: 4.0)

FL:
Biden: +6.2 (MoE: 3.1)

MI:
Biden: +8.0 (MoE: 4.0)

PA:
Biden: +5.6 (MoE: 3.9)

NC:
Trump: +0.6 (MoE: 4.4)

AZ:
Biden: +4.0 (MoE: 4.0)

MN:
Biden: +16 (MoE: 4.0)

If you combine the above results with CNN's electoral map (https://www.cnn.com/election/2020/electoral-college-interactive-maps) It looks pretty good so far. We must campaign as if we are losing through, nothing can be taken for granted.



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June 24th, 2020: Biden Leads Trump Beyond Margin of Error in All Battleground States but One (Original Post) berni_mccoy Jun 2020 OP
What, did the pollster exclude Research Triangle in NC altogether? hlthe2b Jun 2020 #1
We have two Koch brother funded groups dsc Jun 2020 #12
Michigan is pretty much off the table for trump going forward and looks like beachbumbob Jun 2020 #2
Texas is also weak for Trump... if it goes for Biden, Trump has no chance. berni_mccoy Jun 2020 #3
not impossible for Biden to win Texas, be better chance had O'Rourke set aside his ego and went beachbumbob Jun 2020 #4
FL Johnny2X2X Jun 2020 #6
+100 Florida is a leading indicator. If Florida turns blue, it's game over. SKKY Jun 2020 #15
What's puzzling about Arizona is that Dem Mark Kelly leads Martha McSally Mike 03 Jun 2020 #5
Don't worry - Trump's super-spreader rally yesterday will kill off some more MAGATs. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #10
Arizona voters are very independent JonLP24 Jun 2020 #11
Trump supporters hate McSally too. RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #25
Trump will NOT take losing well.... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 2020 #7
I wouldn't be surprised durablend Jun 2020 #8
All battleground states? Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #9
Leaving NV out is strange dsc Jun 2020 #13
I'm not sure about that. I'd definitely bet on Ohio... Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #14
Not sure NV qualifies as a "swing" state... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #18
It was one of Hillary's narrowest wins dsc Jun 2020 #20
Yeah, I'm hoping NC is right behind NV on the "swinging left" column... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #21
I think the Cooper landslide is likely to help pull both Cunningham and Biden across the finish line dsc Jun 2020 #22
Snagging that Senate seat would go a long way... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #24
Tillis has shown himself to be a spinless weasel dsc Jun 2020 #26
As RCP calls them... not my categorization. berni_mccoy Jun 2020 #16
No problem! Buckeye_Democrat Jun 2020 #19
RCP has NV listed at Biden +4.0 (MoE: 3.2) berni_mccoy Jun 2020 #17
You have to like that Trump's path to 270 is actually shrinking... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #23

dsc

(52,155 posts)
12. We have two Koch brother funded groups
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 09:48 AM
Jun 2020

and they each commissioned a poll that is in that average. I think Democrats will sweep the big three offices (governor, senate, president) but the last two will be narrow wins. Cooper should win going away but the other two races will almost certainly be close. This will be a slightly different version of 2008. In 2008, we won the senate seat in a rout, the governor's race in a narrow win, and the electoral votes in a win narrow enough that it would have qualified for a recount if the overall race had been close enough for those EV to matter. This time Cooper will win, quite possibly by double digits, Cunningham will likely have the narrow but clear win, and Biden a fairly narrow win even possibly a recount type win.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
2. Michigan is pretty much off the table for trump going forward and looks like
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:06 AM
Jun 2020

Pennsylvania will soon be in Biden's pocket as well. If Florida or Arizona continue to poll they way they have and COVID rampages both states, this pretty well dooms the GOP and trump. The question will then become HOW BIG is the landslide by Biden and democrats across America will be?

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
3. Texas is also weak for Trump... if it goes for Biden, Trump has no chance.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:08 AM
Jun 2020

And that would be a humiliating defeat. I don't think Biden should focus too much energy there, but some would be good just for this reason.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
4. not impossible for Biden to win Texas, be better chance had O'Rourke set aside his ego and went
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:12 AM
Jun 2020

for a Senate seat.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. What's puzzling about Arizona is that Dem Mark Kelly leads Martha McSally
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 08:17 AM
Jun 2020

by 13 points so why isn't that reflected in Biden V. Trump? It seems like Joe should be leading by more points.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
10. Don't worry - Trump's super-spreader rally yesterday will kill off some more MAGATs.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 09:26 AM
Jun 2020

That's going to help push AZ over the top.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,783 posts)
7. Trump will NOT take losing well....
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 09:16 AM
Jun 2020

He will inflict even more damage on the country from November thru January. He is that vindictive.

durablend

(7,459 posts)
8. I wouldn't be surprised
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 09:18 AM
Jun 2020

If he loses he goes on an angry rampage that night and curses out the entire American populace on live TV. Who's going to stop him from doing it?

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
9. All battleground states?
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 09:25 AM
Jun 2020

Nevada? Ohio?

Maybe even GA and TX, but I wouldn't bet on Biden winning in those states yet.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
14. I'm not sure about that. I'd definitely bet on Ohio...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:04 AM
Jun 2020

... over other states like Georgia and Texas, which I see mentioned quite a lot around here.

I even saw Utah brought up excitedly in 2016. Give me a break.

Edit: Actually, I'd bet on OH voting for Biden over NC too.

Wounded Bear

(58,626 posts)
18. Not sure NV qualifies as a "swing" state...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jun 2020

270to win has it as "leans Dem."

I think most pundits put NV in Biden's camp.

Nothing wrong with padding the margin of victory, though.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
20. It was one of Hillary's narrowest wins
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:46 AM
Jun 2020

in 2016. I also think Biden is very likely to win there as the state has firmly moved to the left but if we are putting NC and AZ on the swing state list, NV belongs there too.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
22. I think the Cooper landslide is likely to help pull both Cunningham and Biden across the finish line
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jun 2020

Wounded Bear

(58,626 posts)
24. Snagging that Senate seat would go a long way...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:02 AM
Jun 2020

looking more and more like the Senate might be within reach.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
26. Tillis has shown himself to be a spinless weasel
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:23 AM
Jun 2020

and the only reason he won in the first place was the whole ebola bullshit in 2014.

Wounded Bear

(58,626 posts)
23. You have to like that Trump's path to 270 is actually shrinking...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:59 AM
Jun 2020

He "won" on razor thin margins, heavily affected by voter suppression and too much voter apathy on the part of Dems/Indies.

We need a bluenami, no doubt kind of election.

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