We don't need to increase tax credits for health insurance. We need to implement Medicare for all

[KWR65]

and a flat 5% income tax on all income no matter the source. If Democrats control the house, senate and white house then they shoukld get rid of the filibuster in the Senate and vote Medicare for all in.

[Walleye]

1. Question: will Medicare for all work like the current Medicare?

Because I have Medicare now and still have to pay a lot of money to doctors and hospitals.

[lagomorph777]

5. Depends on how many Russiapublicans we get rid of in November.

[Autumn]

6. Really? You should get a supplemental. I'm on Medicare and with that I pay a small

co pay to hospitals and no co pay for Dr. visits.

[Walleye]

8. Ok. So with Medicare for all, will we all have to buy supplemental insurance?

I still don’t understand how the Medicare for all proponents plan to make it work. With single payer will we still get bills for every visit and procedure?

[Autumn]

9. MFA will work better than the ACA and covers more than Medicare does now.

The info is out there. But since this is now and you are paying so much in co pays you can easily get a supplemental insurance . Many are free.

[Mariana]

14. You're asking questions that are impossible to answer at this time.

However, here is one proposal. It may be that Medicare for All might look something like this:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/1129/text

[Mariana]

12. You'd pay a whole lot more if you didn't have Medicare. nt.

[Walleye]

15. I know that. Medicare is good, but why can't it pay the whole bill

Was it intended to work this way? Or did republicans get their dirty fingers on it. They were always against it. I think they would still get rid of it if they could. My point is even if we get Medicare for all the republicans will still work hard to defeat and destroy it.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

18. I'll never forget the look on the face of my friend's mom from England when I explained ...

.... what seniors have to pay in retirement.

Medicare is a crippled system because you can’t segregate risk pools by placing old sick people in one pool and expect it to work. That’s not how insurance works in a sane society.

The risk pool needs to be expanded to everyone and the profit motive needs to be removed. Health insurance in this country started out as not-for-profit.

For profit insurance has no incentive to keep costs down beyond their current contract period until they can boost rates. In fact, they have a reverse incentive because their cut of the pie increases.

Negotiating costs, removing profit and removing astronomical inefficiency in the system will allow this richest country on the planet to take care of our seniors like every other country.

[we can do it]

2. Flat tax over taxes the poor, under taxes rich. So no.

[crickets]

17. Truth! Thank you. nt

[Karma13612]

3. I agree

When I lived and worked in England, they took a percentage of my income for health insurance.
And I got care and testing, etc for $00

It’s time, it’s doable and it’s the RIGHT thing to do.

This crappy state by state piece meal coverage with patchwork insurance benefits is causing so many headaches.

Does the government not understand that with one system, it will cut costs on red tape and administration?

Some will ask, “what do you do with all the insurance company employees?”

Put them to work processing all the enrollees initially. Then phase some out to do data analysis of healthcare data to improve patient outcomes.
In the NHS, there were people who input data into the computer system for each patient’s Visit and their diagnosis. This data was later analyzed in order to improve patient outcomes and make care more efficient and keep costs low.

Here in the states, even in rural hospitals, the data on patient visits is oftrn input in real time. The diagnosis Codes are added at that time or later by medical coders. Same with procedures performed.
With Medicare for all, this information would be analyzed in order to improve out comes.
Right now, the codes are used to drive the insurance claims process.

We still need bodies for it all to work. They just might be doing different jobs.

[lagomorph777]

4. Yes to Medicare For All; NO to regressive taxation.

Flat tax is an extreme right wing/libertarian position; odd to see it promoted on DU.

[TheFarseer]

19. Part of the flat tax idea is good

The part where investment income etc isn’t treated at a special lower rate or exempt for some special reason. Obviously the part where you get rid of the brackets because that allegedly makes it too confusing is bad.

[SoonerPride]

7. Eliminate the filibuster. Expand SCOTUS, add two new states, & Medicare for all

No more playing a long slow game.

Go for the jugular and make these reforms happen in February 2021.

[KPN]

13. I agree. We will never get affordable health care for all if we don't. Sometimes you have

to make risky moves to achieve goals. It's about time we did that. In my mind, getting rid of the filibuster is one of those things where "what have you got to lose" actually does make sense. We are basically going to continue to get screwed by a ruthless GOP if we don't. .... I'm sure I'm in the minority on that, but I'm almost 70 and pretty frigging fed up with the shit that's gone on the past 45 years. Enough is enough!

[dalton99a]

20. +1

[Drunken Irishman]

10. A flat tax? No fucking way.

[KPN]

11. Duplicate post. I agree. We will never get affordable health care for all if we don't. Sometimes

to make risky moves to achieve goals. It's about time we did that. In my mind, getting rid of the filibuster is one of those things where "what have you got to lose" actually does make sense. We are basically going to continue to get screwed by a ruthless GOP if we don't. .... I'm sure I'm in the minority on that, but I'm almost 70 and pretty frigging fed up with the shit that's gone on the past 45 years. Enough is enough!

[Wounded Bear]

16. Tax credits work fine for those who can already afford the insurance...

for the poor, they're the side order on the New York steak you can't afford to begin with.

[dalton99a]

21. Tax credits are meaningless for most working people.