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angrychair

(8,698 posts)
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:22 AM Jun 2020

My level of distrust is high

I am honestly starting to wonder if trump's push to ignore the current virus spread has a more insidious purpose.

Bare with me....

This push to ignore our current situation is exaggerated and overt. Why?

I think he wants to drive the country into outright chaos and destruction so he has an excuse to take military control over the country, to declare martial law and using it as a way of suspending the election.
I dovetail their push to discredit mail-in voting as a key part of that plan. By making the only way or dominate way, to vote being only in-person and the virus in full effect, it allows him to consider it to "dangerous".

I know, I've spent to much time locked up in my house and I need to make a tinfoil hat but my trust level is zero with this administration and it has been a smash and grab job from the beginning.

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My level of distrust is high (Original Post) angrychair Jun 2020 OP
Insidious? Yes, use COVID-19 to steal the election ... Auggie Jun 2020 #1
The plan will not work because Trump's hate will come back at him. Stuart G Jun 2020 #7
I stand by my belief that the Senate is still in play Auggie Jun 2020 #15
From his actions and rhetoric... Newest Reality Jun 2020 #2
That's plausible, but I don't think Trump is a strategic thinker. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #3
Not much of a leap of the imagination. Trump is THE Super-Spreader of death and chaos. lagomorph777 Jun 2020 #4
I'm with you at least halfway Mike 03 Jun 2020 #5
I would suggest rolling Putin into your deliberations Hock_Mir_Keyn_Chinek Jun 2020 #8
Points well taken. Mike 03 Jun 2020 #16
Welcome to DU bdamomma Jun 2020 #20
Duh n/t Timewas Jun 2020 #6
I don't think tRump photokath Jun 2020 #9
The guy is an asshole and goes out of his way everyday to prove it. Hotler Jun 2020 #10
This post was alerted on RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #11
+, a lot of OP proffering Red Don killing people for the sake of the election is being reported on. uponit7771 Jun 2020 #12
I think it's perfectly questionable if Donald Trump cares about anything or anyone RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #13
👍 uponit7771 Jun 2020 #14
it is 'bear with me' not bare with me. demigoddess Jun 2020 #17
Well you've certainly laid that poster bear ..... lol ! OnDoutside Jun 2020 #18
Just channeling Miss Weisgerber who might be rolling over in her grave with all the demigoddess Jun 2020 #19

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
1. Insidious? Yes, use COVID-19 to steal the election ...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jun 2020

Perhaps the White House is lost, but the Senate can still be retained by the GOP is they steal enough votes. With Senate control, the GOP can block/curtail/stall everything.

I AM SURE THIS IS THE PLAN.

Stuart G

(38,421 posts)
7. The plan will not work because Trump's hate will come back at him.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:38 AM
Jun 2020

...Donald Trump spews .."hate." That is his whole show. It is an ugly, vicious, and ignorant show, but that is Trump's show. Most of us, 65 -70 percent don't buy the .."Trump Show".., and the response will be a total defeat across the board...Senate, House, President and State Offices.

...It will be a one time defeat for the republican party as a response to Donald Trump. In few years, that political party will regain its footing with new leadership and a new message. Trump destroys everything he touches, but political parties are resilient, and there is lots of money to restore what Trump destroys. Actually, there is unlimited money to restore, but let us enjoy Trump's failure as it happens.

Auggie

(31,167 posts)
15. I stand by my belief that the Senate is still in play
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:13 PM
Jun 2020

and I believe the GOP thinks the same. Really hard to predict results in swing states. People vote too emotionally or with herd mentality. And it's become too easy to fix elections.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
2. From his actions and rhetoric...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:27 AM
Jun 2020

From his actions and rhetoric so far, you could extrapolate something like that easily. It is not all the far reaching or absurd. I have been considering that possibility for a long time.

Once people realize we are not dealing with what we used to consider a President to be and that this is what having a dictator is like, then I would think these kinds of concerns are worthy of consideration.

At worse, it is better to not be overwhelmed by what he may try to do. It might help to be prepared.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,683 posts)
3. That's plausible, but I don't think Trump is a strategic thinker.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:30 AM
Jun 2020

And even if he was, such a strategy is obviously dangerous and stupid and likely to lead to a result that he doesn't want - as seems to be happening already. In any event, he can't suspend the election; the date is baked into the Constitution and a federal statute. Even declaring martial law wouldn't allow him to do it. This point has been made here and elsewhere many times.

What Trump is doing, I think, is what he has always done: manufacturing his own "truth" to suit his own ends. He doesn't want there to be a pandemic because it is interfering with his re-election chances by damaging the economy - the only thing he still had going for him. So he's claiming, and acting as if, the virus is going away and it was never a big deal anyhow. He's just hoping enough people believe it to vote for him before the pandemic gets worse. And he's so crazy that he might even believe his own bullshit.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
5. I'm with you at least halfway
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:31 AM
Jun 2020

I suspected from the get-go he had an insidious purpose, based on the fantasy COVID-19 would disproportionately impact blue states. But that plan went awry and now the severe outbreaks are in states important for his re-election. He slow-rolled testing to keep numbers down, resulting in thousands of dead Americans. I have no doubt he's evil.

He will also use chaos to his advantage. But I question whether or not he games things out and makes any effort whatsoever to predict the consequences of the events he sets into motion. Up to now, considering the consequences of his actions beyond a minute or two hasn't been his strong suit.

But absolutely your observations should be considered as he blunders forward, with fewer and fewer options.

 
8. I would suggest rolling Putin into your deliberations
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:41 AM
Jun 2020

I consider it to be not only possible, but likely, that his buddy Vladimir has been coaching him on what not to do during the pandemic. I think Dumpy is senile enough and mentally ill enough that he will do whatever he is programmed to do. And having a pandemic do the destructive work is, for Putin, a great thing. No possible chance of anyone ever accusing him of war-like acts or agression of any sort.

(In best Putin accent) It vasn't me. It vas disease!

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
16. Points well taken.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jun 2020

There is much to worry about, especially foreign interference.

Also, voter suppression.

Self-inflicted injuries, which I'm hopeful we'll avoid.

We have to get through this.

bdamomma

(63,845 posts)
20. Welcome to DU
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:06 PM
Jun 2020

and Putin is totally pulling the strings here.

Both of them tRump and Putin do not value human life.

Hotler

(11,420 posts)
10. The guy is an asshole and goes out of his way everyday to prove it.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:51 AM
Jun 2020

That is why his minions like him. What ever it takes to fuck over Democrats and Libtards

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
12. +, a lot of OP proffering Red Don killing people for the sake of the election is being reported on.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 10:57 AM
Jun 2020

... I'm thinking there's some truth to it seeing some people don't want this probable scenario happening.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
13. I think it's perfectly questionable if Donald Trump cares about anything or anyone
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 11:01 AM
Jun 2020

But himself and his creepy daughter.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
19. Just channeling Miss Weisgerber who might be rolling over in her grave with all the
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 10:01 PM
Jun 2020

errors being made in grammar these days. I do not get your joke.

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