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***** Oversight of the DOJ - House Judiciary Hearing - LIVE Thread 1 ***** (Original Post) Mersky Jun 2020 OP
Jerry Nadler has just gaveled in Mersky Jun 2020 #1
By golly, Gym wore a tie Mersky Jun 2020 #2
Jeez that guy soothsayer Jun 2020 #3
It's an orange tie. Secret maggot message? jls4561 Jun 2020 #10
Thanks for the links KewlKat Jun 2020 #4
Yw. I'll add some more in a few Mersky Jun 2020 #6
K & R malaise Jun 2020 #5
Sounds like kazoos and a vacuum with a busted belt: Gym has the mic Mersky Jun 2020 #7
No mask on Gym. phylny Jun 2020 #8
Gym Jordan is so gross blogslut Jun 2020 #9
Gave away my suspicions re the Flynn malaise Jun 2020 #11
Yep soothsayer Jun 2020 #23
I tried listening...but Gym Jordan makes me ill.... KewlKat Jun 2020 #12
Jordan just lied his ass off about unmasking Flynn. chowder66 Jun 2020 #13
Jordan just said mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #14
I wonder how many times he'll say that today? Mersky Jun 2020 #18
Jacket off Jordan is an insufferable weasel. gademocrat7 Jun 2020 #15
The shit stirrer in chief malaise Jun 2020 #16
Man, the GOP really don't want these witnesses to testify blogslut Jun 2020 #17
Ya think? Brother Buzz Jun 2020 #20
I think Jordan should storm off, in a huff, so the adults can get on with the hearing Siwsan Jun 2020 #19
Ah, but the company man has a job to do Mersky Jun 2020 #21
Why aren't CNN and M$NBComcast showing this live? malaise Jun 2020 #22
Huh, well, that's a mistake Mersky Jun 2020 #24
Donald Ayer - a W appointee mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #25
What is that tapping/banging? blogslut Jun 2020 #26
OMG. It's gohmert. Mersky Jun 2020 #29
Yeah, call the sergeant at arms! jls4561 Jun 2020 #27
My god, they're children soothsayer Jun 2020 #28
"There's no rules about when you can make noise." Louie Gohmert Siwsan Jun 2020 #30
Can they not throw him out? MelissaB Jun 2020 #32
One of the Dems asked for the Sergeant at Arms to remove Gohmert. nt PunkinPi Jun 2020 #56
He's just pissed that the witness malaise Jun 2020 #34
Yes, Louie gohmert is a disgusting bumble fu**k gademocrat7 Jun 2020 #36
Louie Ghomert throwing a tantrum mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #31
Well, if someone was going to to do that Bettie Jun 2020 #85
Wolves raise very well behaved pups zeusdogmom Jun 2020 #108
Realized that as I typed wolves Bettie Jun 2020 #109
LOL blogslut Jun 2020 #33
Gene Krupa had rhythm. jls4561 Jun 2020 #39
Cracked up at that too! Habibi Jun 2020 #42
Nadler needs to grow a spine. snort Jun 2020 #35
I've only been listening for the last few minutes -- WTF! Why can't Nadler get control of the in2herbs Jun 2020 #37
What's the over/under for when gym jordan jumps on the table and flings his poop? soothsayer Jun 2020 #38
I think Gohmert might beat him to that little display Siwsan Jun 2020 #40
That's exactly what Nadler should ask him tavernier Jun 2020 #41
John Elias was speaking about barr's reefer madness at the DOJ Mersky Jun 2020 #43
Gohmert is tapping during Mukasey's testimony blogslut Jun 2020 #44
that's when I clapped my forehead. mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #49
Zelinsky up now Habibi Jun 2020 #45
"Mr gohmert, you're not presiding over this hearing. Mr. Nadler is" Mersky Jun 2020 #46
The cool thing about a remote witness blogslut Jun 2020 #47
"Roger stone was treated differently because of politics." - Zelinsky Mersky Jun 2020 #48
Not cuz of his jaunty hat, if that's what people thought soothsayer Jun 2020 #51
He resigned from the case rather than file an improper memo. Mersky Jun 2020 #50
People who uphold their oaths are awesome soothsayer Jun 2020 #53
WHOA! He and the others were expected to sign off on a down sentencing memo without having read it. Mersky Jun 2020 #52
If he wouldn't go along, he would be fired. Mersky Jun 2020 #54
Elias agreed that the investigations into the cannabis companies Mersky Jun 2020 #55
Ha! Now they care about the coronavirus soothsayer Jun 2020 #57
I keep missing what Muckasey says. Mersky Jun 2020 #58
Rep. Chabot's Whine and Crackers has no shame Mersky Jun 2020 #59
notice he put forth no specifics in his questions mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #61
Zoe Lofgren is now asking questions Mersky Jun 2020 #60
"This is worse than Watergate." - Lofgren Mersky Jun 2020 #62
Gohmert crying his head off now Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #63
Louie (Krupa) Gohmert is a paranoid baby blogslut Jun 2020 #64
gohmert is going to give a name to every scale on his red herring. Mersky Jun 2020 #65
Cripes Gohmert didn't even ask a question! mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #68
Thank you for this coverage. Gohmert would be removed if he were in any other setting: AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2020 #69
Ok, I am recovering from an abcessed tooth so I have nothing coherent to say crickets Jun 2020 #66
Hi, Crickets! Mersky Jun 2020 #70
Hi, Mersky! crickets Jun 2020 #72
you didn't miss anything. mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #76
ha! Thanks. crickets Jun 2020 #84
Off topic! Projection! Mersky Jun 2020 #67
Sheila Jackson Lee now speaking up for the smarter section of east Texas. Mersky Jun 2020 #71
She's the best I've heard so far Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #73
She did a great job of describing a DOJ 'gone wild.' crickets Jun 2020 #74
Ayers responding to Jackson Lee about barr's motivations Mersky Jun 2020 #75
Nadler asking for compliance in wearing masks. crickets Jun 2020 #77
Calendar and a clock is now harping about an outside matter Mersky Jun 2020 #78
Collins is all over the road like a drunk driver. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #79
Elias is disputing collins' claim that Elias wanted to join the impeachment staff team Mersky Jun 2020 #80
Can anything even come of this? soothsayer Jun 2020 #81
DisBarrment, perhaps Mersky Jun 2020 #83
collins' just unfairly impugned Elias' professional credibility by leading him Mersky Jun 2020 #82
Cohen has been speaking Mersky Jun 2020 #86
"This is another time when politics is overcoming rule of law and is destroying America" - Cohen Mersky Jun 2020 #87
Republicans going all over the map Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #88
Johnson bringing up Steele for crissake mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #91
Johnson slamming a local witness for appearing by video soothsayer Jun 2020 #89
Johnson taking time to complain about Zelinsky appearing on camera crickets Jun 2020 #90
johnson just proved that he is a jerk from Louisiana Mersky Jun 2020 #92
They're shameless soothsayer Jun 2020 #93
It was gross. Hank Johnson D-GA (not Mike R-LA) thanked Zelensky for crickets Jun 2020 #97
Johnson (GA) now speaking Mersky Jun 2020 #94
"ask John Bolton about the 'sham impeachment' " mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #95
That was GREAT. Mersky Jun 2020 #98
Regarding the GOP shenanigans in this hearing: blogslut Jun 2020 #96
Gym Jordan being the usual fool Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #99
I guess Nadler recognized him sans mask after all... crickets Jun 2020 #100
Could be, Nadler recognizes the genuine danger to his own health.... Brother Buzz Jun 2020 #107
Ding dang darn explain a judge's thinking Mersky Jun 2020 #101
A lot of this from Repubs seems to be about getting talking points on record crickets Jun 2020 #102
Yes, and being as interruptive as possible Mersky Jun 2020 #103
***NEW Thread 2 POSTED*** Mersky Jun 2020 #104
Jordan. Gohmert, Collins---they're all such evil suck-ups to trump. panader0 Jun 2020 #105
... Lucinda Jun 2020 #106

Siwsan

(27,834 posts)
19. I think Jordan should storm off, in a huff, so the adults can get on with the hearing
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:39 PM
Jun 2020

I know it's way too much to hope that he loses, in November.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
21. Ah, but the company man has a job to do
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jun 2020

If he’s to get his pay in red bull and crank.

jls4561

(3,114 posts)
27. Yeah, call the sergeant at arms!
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:47 PM
Jun 2020

Edit: Doug Collins (I think) is just being disruptive.

I stand corrected. It was Gomer.

mnmoderatedem

(3,907 posts)
31. Louie Ghomert throwing a tantrum
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jun 2020

he's tapping on his table making noise and distracting.

Never thought anyone would outdo Jordan in the childness department

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
85. Well, if someone was going to to do that
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:47 PM
Jun 2020

it would have to be Gomert. Got to give him credit where it's due, he's able to up the ante on any awful behavior. He apparently was raised by...well, not wolves, maybe meth-addled cockroaches.

zeusdogmom

(1,141 posts)
108. Wolves raise very well behaved pups
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:34 PM
Jun 2020

The pack has to be well disciplined for survival. If a pup gets out of line, mom, dad, or even an older sibling will quickly help the offender learn what is proper.

Bettie

(19,704 posts)
109. Realized that as I typed wolves
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jun 2020

so, I went with another creature more suited to what Mr. Gomert seems to be.

in2herbs

(4,389 posts)
37. I've only been listening for the last few minutes -- WTF! Why can't Nadler get control of the
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:51 PM
Jun 2020

hearing? The SOA should expel these Rs who are disrespectful and out of order. It's very frustrating.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
43. John Elias was speaking about barr's reefer madness at the DOJ
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 12:58 PM
Jun 2020

How unusual/rare there would be action taken against cannabis companies.

Detailed one that barr initiated which would go on to prevent the merger of two companies where ultimately no antitrust violations were found. That subpoenas drained the companies in producing 1+ million documents.

That the DOJ at the behest of barr would go on to target nine more cannabis companies for antitrust violations, despite them being in different geographic regions and not competing with one another.

blogslut

(39,167 posts)
44. Gohmert is tapping during Mukasey's testimony
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:03 PM
Jun 2020

Mukasey is the wingnut's freaking witness.

mnmoderatedem

(3,907 posts)
49. that's when I clapped my forehead.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:06 PM
Jun 2020

was Louie even listening? Mukasey was practically mimicking trump's propaganda

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
46. "Mr gohmert, you're not presiding over this hearing. Mr. Nadler is"
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:04 PM
Jun 2020

Last edited Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:59 PM - Edit history (1)

In response to Johnson alerting the committee to more tapping from the kids’ table (gohmert).

soothsayer

(38,601 posts)
53. People who uphold their oaths are awesome
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:11 PM
Jun 2020

It pained me to hear Nadler warm them that they’d likely be punished for testifying, tho true

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
52. WHOA! He and the others were expected to sign off on a down sentencing memo without having read it.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:10 PM
Jun 2020

And! didn’t know who had written it.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
54. If he wouldn't go along, he would be fired.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:12 PM
Jun 2020

Because the US attorney was worried about the pResident.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
55. Elias agreed that the investigations into the cannabis companies
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:14 PM
Jun 2020

Were a perversion of DOJ priorities to suit the “political whims” of the attorney general and pResident.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
59. Rep. Chabot's Whine and Crackers has no shame
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:18 PM
Jun 2020

None. Zero. He is betraying the country as I type this.

mnmoderatedem

(3,907 posts)
61. notice he put forth no specifics in his questions
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jun 2020

only things like "whaaaa there were more democrats on the Mueller team than republicans".

He more made statements than asked questions of the witnesses.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
60. Zoe Lofgren is now asking questions
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:20 PM
Jun 2020

Of Mr. Ayer

Oof - Calling on BumRushDaShow - your skills are needed!

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(135,713 posts)
63. Gohmert crying his head off now
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:27 PM
Jun 2020

Can anyone understand what he's saying? I don't speak Goober.

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,125 posts)
69. Thank you for this coverage. Gohmert would be removed if he were in any other setting:
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:31 PM
Jun 2020

grocery store, classroom, any legal setting, etc. He's abusing all norms.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
66. Ok, I am recovering from an abcessed tooth so I have nothing coherent to say
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:29 PM
Jun 2020

and no spoons to deal with Gohmert. Muted! I was watching online and it took me forever to find CSPAN and set captions on. I think I know the answer, but... did I miss anything?

crickets

(26,168 posts)
72. Hi, Mersky!
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:35 PM
Jun 2020

Tooth problem was caught in time and is coming along. No attention span here, but doing my best to keep up. Good to see you too!

mnmoderatedem

(3,907 posts)
76. you didn't miss anything.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:38 PM
Jun 2020

there was no day care center of which to move Gohmert to along with the rest of the children

crickets

(26,168 posts)
74. She did a great job of describing a DOJ 'gone wild.'
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:36 PM
Jun 2020

Ayer is agreeing re violations of DOJ rules.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
75. Ayers responding to Jackson Lee about barr's motivations
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:37 PM
Jun 2020

Two reasons for barr’s actions:

- He believes the pResident is above the law.

- Getting involved in a very political way - to help the pResident’s campaign. This, by using the DOJ to try to give credence to the CT claims made on the campaign trail

crickets

(26,168 posts)
77. Nadler asking for compliance in wearing masks.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:39 PM
Jun 2020

Those not wearing them will not be recognized. 👍

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
78. Calendar and a clock is now harping about an outside matter
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jun 2020

That’d be collins. Sigh.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
80. Elias is disputing collins' claim that Elias wanted to join the impeachment staff team
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:44 PM
Jun 2020

Elias pushed back saying that his desire to work with a certain group well preceeded any of the impeachment proceedings. That it was early 2019 when he was pursuing an area at DOJ.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
82. collins' just unfairly impugned Elias' professional credibility by leading him
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jun 2020

with some indecipherable bullshit about drug schedules.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
87. "This is another time when politics is overcoming rule of law and is destroying America" - Cohen
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:51 PM
Jun 2020

crickets

(26,168 posts)
90. Johnson taking time to complain about Zelinsky appearing on camera
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:54 PM
Jun 2020

instead of in person. Z. has a newborn, it's just petty theater.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
92. johnson just proved that he is a jerk from Louisiana
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jun 2020

Asked Zelinsky why he wouldn’t appear in person. Claimed that it was outside the rules.

Zelinsky said he has a newborn, and then Nadler moved to reel in johnson’s bs

Gross. Just gross.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
97. It was gross. Hank Johnson D-GA (not Mike R-LA) thanked Zelensky for
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:00 PM
Jun 2020

whistleblowing and appearing today before beginning his questions. Good for him.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
94. Johnson (GA) now speaking
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jun 2020

Soothing. Sane person bringing thoughtfulness back into the proceeding.

mnmoderatedem

(3,907 posts)
95. "ask John Bolton about the 'sham impeachment' "
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jun 2020

someone shouted that out to Johnson from LA, when Johnson used the phrase "Sham impeachment" to slam democrats.

Don't know who shouted that out, but kudos.

blogslut

(39,167 posts)
96. Regarding the GOP shenanigans in this hearing:
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 01:58 PM
Jun 2020

I think some of the Democratic members have run out of fucks.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
100. I guess Nadler recognized him sans mask after all...
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jun 2020

I really like Jerry Nadler, but ugh. He isn't forceful enough sometimes.

CSPAN TV has just cut live coverage. Dang. Online cc is not as good.

Brother Buzz

(39,899 posts)
107. Could be, Nadler recognizes the genuine danger to his own health....
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jun 2020

because he's sitting next to him, and sure as the sun rises in the morning, Gym Jordan would start spitting and spewing if he was ignored.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
101. Ding dang darn explain a judge's thinking
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jun 2020

Goes the Gym.



Why did Berman Jackson go along with the revised sentencing memo? Is a good question for the judge, not the attorney that resigned over improper and unethical pressures at DOJ.

crickets

(26,168 posts)
102. A lot of this from Repubs seems to be about getting talking points on record
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020

more than anything else. As usual.

Mersky

(5,340 posts)
103. Yes, and being as interruptive as possible
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:11 PM
Jun 2020

to obscure the information coming out, make it more difficult to follow, and cover for the pResident because they’re a bunch of spineless and corrupt political accomplices

panader0

(25,816 posts)
105. Jordan. Gohmert, Collins---they're all such evil suck-ups to trump.
Wed Jun 24, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jun 2020

Do they really want to stay on that sinking ship? Evil and stupid.

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