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People like to think of their dwellings as safely insulated from the outside world, but many types of spiders can be found inside. Some are accidentally trapped, while others are short-term visitors. Some species even enjoy the great indoors, where they happily live out their lives and make more spiders. These arachnids are usually secretive, and almost all you meet are neither aggressive nor dangerous. And they may be providing services like eating pests some even eat other spiders.
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Aristus
(72,187 posts)I never kill them. If they're freaking my wife out, I'll capture them and put them outside. But I never kill them.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)SeattleVet
(5,903 posts)From the Burke Museum:
https://www.livescience.com/55270-can-indoor-spiders-survive-outside.html
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If the spider is a native to the area, it will likely be able to survive outside, Crawford said. But if the spider is a transplant that's become a house spider even if its ancestors made the voyage to the "new" place decades to hundreds of years ago odds are, the spider will perish outside, Crawford said.
That's because most spiders are adapted to specific places and temperatures, Crawford said.
"The American house spider (Parasteatoda tepidariorum) [is] probably native to northern South America," Crawford said. "It undoubtedly lives outdoors just fine if your backyard is in Brazil or Guyana."
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)At least I don't smash it.
Silent3
(15,909 posts)They aren't just strays that wandered in from outdoors, so "safely" outside isn't necessarily so safe.
Of course, I don't personally care if they die. I don't want them crawling around me in my house. As for their supposed benefit of killing other bugs... well, I only rarely have other bugs bugging me indoors either, so there's not a lot of that work that needs doing.
calguy
(6,154 posts)It's a girl thing.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)Doreen
(11,686 posts)because I have a couple of guy friends who are scared of them.
They absolutely get pissed when I let the spiders crawl on me while I am putting them outside.
Of course I am mean and tell them "now he is waiting outside the door for you."
I only have killed one because it kept running after me and my German Shepherd. It was not one of the poisonous spiders. It was big and a tanish color and I live in Washington state. Have no clue why it was chasing us around the living room
Raine
(31,178 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,535 posts)TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)hunter
(40,690 posts)Insect predators are not.
My wife and I have moved into houses that have cockroach problems.
We don't use insecticides and the cockroach problem goes away once the ants and spiders move in.
Argentine ants are almost as bad as cockroaches, but you can train an ant colony to avoid your kitchen if you fill the holes and cracks they are coming from and vacuum them up ruthlessly.
That strategy may not work in apartments where neighbors are heavy users of insecticides.
Many insecticides interfere with normal human brain development. I attribute many problems in our society to that.
Igel
(37,535 posts)They eat cockroaches--not over a certain size, but what does. Besides cats.
Spiders and such only each the very smallest ones.
Ants are good ... but I'll take the cockroaches.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,526 posts)I think the house centipedes killed them all.
They're even more disturbing to look at, imo, but they're great pest killers too.
Edit: And they usually hide in the drains or floor vents, so they're not as visible as spiders either!
LeftInTX
(34,294 posts)Buckeye_Democrat
(15,526 posts)... of things in my home.
I never see ANY insects except for them now. And I usually don't see the centipedes for very long either, since they scurry away so fast whenever I approach them. Some of them have been whoppers, so they have to be eating something!
Rebl2
(17,740 posts)I should leave them be, but if they dont get away from me, I put them outside. Most of the time they get away from me though.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,526 posts)I didn't see the centipedes when I first moved here. Spiders and other little insects were pretty common, though.
Within a couple years of seeing the first centipede, they're all that I see now.
lame54
(39,771 posts)Spiders weaving webs all over the inside and outside of your house
As we have here
Is it ok to to broom away the webs?
Quixote1818
(31,155 posts)Maeve
(43,456 posts)Actually, the cats would take it out and have fun doing so.
Politicub
(12,328 posts)Spiders are special and all that, but I could not deal with a spider that looks like it wants to jump off the wall and onto my face.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)cwydro
(51,308 posts)My granny always said it was bad luck!
Renew Deal
(85,151 posts)Arkansas Granny
(32,265 posts)I only kill spiders if I find them in my living space. If they stay out of my sight, they're safe. I don't kill spiders I see outside and take care not to disturb their webs.
Dagstead Bumwood
(6,640 posts)But there are strict boundaries: the outside is theirs, the inside ours, and the garage serves as the neutral zone. If there are large webs it creeps out the wife, but I can enjoy that from inside.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I don't know why. I grew up in a fairly rural area with a lot of insects, but rarely saw them inside. However I have lived in cities ever since I have graduated from college and have lived in buildings that exterminated regularly so I have rarely seen insects inside in the past 30 years, but when I do I kind of lose it.
I don't even really see them that much outside in the city, but when I go to visit my siblings who live in more suburban areas I am reminded of how good I have it living in a place that is not over-run by creepy-crawly and flying-biting things.
d_b
(7,463 posts)Spiders get the flamethrower
Captain Zero
(8,905 posts)And it hurts, and it's ugly, and it itches and swells.
So, I'm sure they provide a lot of the aforesaid benefits, but,
if they draw attention to themselves.
Dummm, da-dum-duh
sinkingfeeling
(57,835 posts)stuff. Also, they make a deep crater that takes months for the scabbing to stop.
maxsolomon
(38,727 posts)but the argument in our house is now: that's an INDOOR spider, it will die outside.
my response is: there was no "indoors" when the European House Spider evolved.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)We always put them out. Hubby has a special technique.
maxsolomon
(38,727 posts)MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)2naSalit
(102,793 posts)truce with spiders, they can live happily outside and I will let them be, unless they get on me. In my home, If I see them, they had better get out before I can get them or they'll be dead. After suffering the affects of spider bites on my face that is still a problem over ten years later... nope. When I do get bitten the old bites flare up and it;s not pleasant and then there's the nerve damage. I give them half a chance to stay away by placing a barrier around my place to keep them away.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)2naSalit
(102,793 posts)Happened in my sleep and didn't present for 36hrs or so. The medical techs who helped me thought it was likely hobo spider(s). If it had been brown recluse, my face would have been destroyed, my nose and eyes would be gone. What I did have was twelve miserable weeks of pustulating, circular areas that resembled 3rd degree burns and was very painful. It affected the sight in one of my eyes and both are light sensitive, I have to wear hats and shades whenever outdoors. There were four bites and they took up more than a third of my face. Once the shriveling and seeping ended I still had bright red blotches that faded quite a bit over time but they are still noticeable when I get stressed and some little weird bumps appear too. The nerve damage means I need to keep my face covered in winter when I go skiing or out in cold below freezing.
So I have no tolerance for those creatures in my home.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)2naSalit
(102,793 posts)It was a while ago, my adaptations are just daily routine now. That's hardly the worst of my adventures but it sure is one I'll never forget.
stopwastingmymoney
(2,347 posts)I had a similar experience, though not as bad as yours I think.
Bit by a black widow, swollen angry and caused inflammation all over my body, every injury I ever had making itself heard.
I was sick from it for 9 months, with lots of doctors guessing and testing various things. I finally insisted they cut it out of me. Then I got better.
Now, Im really sensitive to any bites. Inflammation all over again.
So, I generally dont kill the carnivores but I did kill a large black widow just yesterday. I still feel bad about but, you know 😊
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)I have never been bitten by a black widow but I've always heard it was bad. From your telling, it sounds worse than what I had going on. I was pretty sick and lost a lot of weight, took six months to gain it back.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I had a BW bite me squarely in my chest in bed one night. The area around the bite was paralyzed for close to seven months. Even with medication, I would have uncontrollable spasms of my chest muscles on occasion. It took around a year for me to not have side effects.
I used to take a live and let live stance toward spiders in my home. Now if I see a web, it is coming down, if I see the spider, it is dead.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)I did find a fantastic remedy, years after the fact, is baking soda. I swear by it. I have been bitten several times since and I find that baking soda paste on the bite neutralizes the poison and helps draw it out. Saves me a lot of agony with pre-existing bite issues.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)2naSalit
(102,793 posts)You can mix in some clay or pulverized herb of some kind to bind it so it will stay on your skin. Leave it on for hours.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I can add a little more xantham gum to the water phase to bind the baking soda more efficiently.
2naSalit
(102,793 posts)RAB910
(4,030 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)KT2000
(22,151 posts)that if we did not have spiders in the house, we would have way too many mites. They keep those critters in check.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)a disinfectant.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)AJT
(5,240 posts)it must die! I will be screaming while I kill it. If it's really big I'll just move out of the house.
dlk
(13,247 posts)I killed every last one of them I ever came across.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)that even more we were getting infestations of literally hundreds of black widows in the loose-laid stone retaining walls I built in our garden, which back plantings that I hand weed. They loved that environment I created for them. I pull the top stones off and sprinkle poison down between whenever I see their population building.
We just have a LOT of spiders in GA. Typical kinds inside I'll take out if they don't run too fast for me or stay long enough on a magazine or paper towel. Brown recluse absolutely no, and they do like the comfort of our home.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I love around Black Widows and was bitten by one. Never again.
johnp3907
(4,308 posts)There are plenty of spiders around. Theyll be fine.
dlk
(13,247 posts)Their venom is highly toxic and can be fatal. Most other spiders are okay.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,848 posts)outside.
On a separate note, would you mind if I "stole" your floating man baby GIF?
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,848 posts).
DeminPennswoods
(17,506 posts)when I come across them.
UTUSN
(77,795 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(36,631 posts)The only spiders I kill are the brown recluses (a.k.a., fiddlers), and then only when they're in space I want to occupy.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)Same would be if I saw brown recluse spiders.
They need to be smart enough to stay out of sight.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)If I see signs of one in my home, I hunt it down and kill it.
PoindexterOglethorpe
(28,493 posts)And honestly, I haven't any clue as to where within my walls they might hide.
But if they come out and I see them, instant death.
I'm guessing that those like the OP who tenderly advocate letting spiders co-exist simply have no idea about black widows or brown recluses.
Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)By carefully dipping in a paper towel I was able to soak up enough water that the poor thing could get its water-logged legs working and climb onto the paper towel. I initially thought it was probably long since drowned, but it made a full recovery, and was happily set free on the deck outside the front door.
Even as a little kid I was always careful to step around ant hills so as to avoid risk of injuring them.
Damn, I'm so freaking virtuous it just amazes me sometimes.
MoonRiver
(36,975 posts)demmiblue
(39,720 posts)Basement spiders...
marie999
(3,334 posts)Right now I have my 2 dogs, 1 cat, a few spiders, 2 lizards, and a tree frog. I keep a small dish of water out for the lizards and frog and a plate of squashed flies. This happens when we have a lot of rain. Not moving storms, but I watch a 2-hour map and these small cells keep popping up usually starting about 3 PM.
PTWB
(4,131 posts)And I dont have their food source either.
JHB
(38,213 posts)...home of venomous spiders that can kill people.
SharonClark
(10,497 posts)And wasn't in Australia either, until I mentioned to my host that there was spider in my room, about 4" across, and he ran into the room immediately, hunted it down and killed it. I guess it was poisonous.
A few days later I was standing at the edge of a sugar cane field and he warned me about cane snakes and cane toads. Later that day we visited a friend who has chickens and she explained how they build their coops so the snakes can't get to the chickens or the eggs. What a great place to visit.
ismnotwasm
(42,674 posts)I like this guy, really into the hobby, touches on the ethics of it. Plus hes in Croatia, and Im in the PNW.
It cured my arachnophobia as a side effect. Pretty cool. Im sure Id still scream if a big one was crawling on me, but it wouldnt be in stark raving terror. I enjoy garden spiders, because they are eating my garden enemies. Weird to not be afraid anymore
Mossfern
(4,716 posts)Sorry, I'm a recovering Luddite - here's a link
https://www.deviantart.com/macrojunkie/art/jumping-spider-just-hatched-134787225
58Sunliner
(6,330 posts)Anything else gets the boot or dies. The camel-back crickets get put out.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)not in my house
Pathwalker
(6,603 posts)GoCubsGo
(34,914 posts)marlakay
(13,282 posts)If they are in my space they are put out or killed sometimes, in theirs I mostly leave them alone unless its a mass takeover of the yard to where I cant be outside. During covid especially I need my backyard.
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Codeine
(25,586 posts)All other spiders are ignored (if only I notice them) or get a trip outside on a piece of printer paper (if anyone else in the family sees them).
Flies and ants, however? Total war. I have a no tolerance policy.
StarryNite
(12,116 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Local entomologists agree that reports of brown recluse spiders in this area are mostly misidentified spiders or a specimen that hitched a ride and will soon die.
Do you see them often in your area? That shit would make me nervous, and Im a spider-lover.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,526 posts)... in a sea of killer arthropods, mollusks and worms.
Can someone post a video of a kitten who grew up with a spider, later becoming best friends?
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)I then release them outside, and sorry if that ends up killing some of them
I have hardwood floors and spiders have white poop, like birds.
Wanderlust988
(785 posts)I'll be damned if I allow one to crawl over my toes.
BusyBeingBest
(9,173 posts)If they are too large, fast, or otherwise freak me out, they have to be "taken care of", because I'm not going to spend a lot of time and energy trying to catch something like that only to have it either bite me or slip under the baseboards, to re-emerge later when I'm sleeping or showering. No thanks.
Marrah_Goodman
(1,587 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I have no idea how it ended up in my home.
I am not willing to go through the body tremors, pain, medicine for months again. Any spider that I see come into my home now is dead, sorry.
ecstatic
(35,075 posts)They say house centipedes are great too, but I wouldn't be able to sleep knowing a critter is roaming freely nearby.
Buckeye_Democrat
(15,526 posts)They don't seem to be as stupid as spiders.
They freaked me out for awhile, though. So ugly!
I've grown to appreciate them. No spiders or any other bugs in my home ever since they arrived.
betsuni
(29,078 posts)Bob can stay, my nemesis is the cockroach. I murder them without remorse.
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)I kind of like spiders. And when I see a small one in the house I keep my mouth closed.
Because the wife insists they all be killed! She hates them. Which is ironic because our yard is a certified Wildlife Habit thru the NWF. We both love the wildlife in our yard including the snakes. But the wife draws the line at spiders.
Fortunately central Florida has no brown recluse but 3 subspecies of Black Widows!
Raine
(31,178 posts)I either leave in the house and watch them build their webs or safely transport them outside.