Mob of Karens scream at Florida Commissioners over masks:

[Kingofalldems]

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

https://deadstate.org/mob-of-karens-scream-at-florida-county-commissioners-after-they-make-masks-mandatory/

[Thomas Hurt]

1. So, can we call this a squawk of Karens...

[sweetloukillbot]

16. A complaint of Karens nt

[whathehell]

40. I want a jam of Jamals, myself

[3catwoman3]

17. A cacophony of Karens.

[grantcart]

18. A grabber of Karens

[lunatica]

20. A screech of Karens

[Celerity]

21. a cackle of Karens

a cackle is a group of hyenas

[LanternWaste]

24. a privilege of Karens?

[Alex4Martinez]

63. Yes! Bingo!

That's the perfect collective noun!

[whttevrr]

25. A Kvetch of Karens

[ace3csusm]

2. Its time we let them do what they want

We need to have them sign a release that they will place them at bottom on waiting list for medical assistants should they contact the virus... if you have a release you dont need a mask ...

[onecaliberal]

5. This.

[SouthernCal_Dem]

3. I'm happy this "Karen" phenomenon is being exposed

Entitled white women (aka Karens) can be deadly.

Especially when they try to use their privilege as a weapon.

[whathehell]

14. Their race and gender have squat to do with it..

They're stupid RWingers. Period.

[gollygee]

48. No, it isn't another way to call a woman a bitch

Women who are assertive are called bitches, which is misogynistic for sure.

Women who use systemic racism to go after Black people, such as the woman in Central Park who tried to get police to go after a Black bird watcher, get called a Karen. It's for using whiteness as a weapon, and not all white women do that.

[JonLP24]

51. I find in interesting more object to the term itself

Than the behavior described. There is also Chad for males who act in similar ways. Maybe we should go back to BBQ Becky. Seemed to cause a lot less controversy.

[gollygee]

53. It's about using whiteness as a weapon

I don't know what other women would use whiteness as a weapon. I'm trying to wrap my head around how that would work. I guess it might be theoretically possible for someone who isn't white? I'm not sure.

[gollygee]

47. They aren't all right wingers

There have been left-leaning Karens as well. It's about structural racism.

[gollygee]

57. "White women who use their white privilege to call upon structural racism to give them an edge

in confrontations with Black people"

Much longer.

[AllaN01Bear]

4. you may have rights and freedoms , but your actions will tell when the 2nd wave hits .

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. We have the same rule in Minneapolis. We're managing just fine.

[Kingofalldems]

7. What exactly is it that they object to?

[CurtEastPoint]

12. You name it: "furst uhmemment" and "freedumb" and "kkkonstitushin"

[Celerity]

22. +100000

[napi21]

8. What happens to people when they move to Fla? Is it so hard to understand the masks are to protect

people? I get it when businesses are told to close or people are told to stay home. Those things are an inconvenience, or in case of the businesses, could be their livelihood. But MASKS???? What's the harm????

[whathehell]

15. Not just Florida.. It's in a number of other states with Repuke governors. n/t.

[Crunchy Frog]

9. All that screaming in an enclosed space is a good way to catch it.

[onethatcares]

10. traveling deeper

into video #2, you'll find a gent holding up a sign that says. "MY BODY, MY CHOICE"'

I bet he puts that one in the basement.

[Celerity]

29. ...

[marie999]

32. Does he want an abortion?

Does he think he's pregnant?

[Celerity]

34. no, he is a RW troll nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

11. The woman with glasses and her right arm outstretched...

... looks a lot like my evangelical sister!

My crazy sister has pleasantly surprised me with her attention to the pandemic and the following of safety measures, though. So there's a bottom to her extremism, thankfully.

[guillaumeb]

13. When white conservatives do this, it is free speech.

When non-whites, or liberals, do this, it is a riot.

[gulliver]

19. How do we know these are diehard Trump voters?

I don't see any evidence.

[Celerity]

23. ...

[Hobo]

27. I believe it's called

A parliament of Karens


Hobo

[nsd]

28. I'm not white and I'm not a woman, but ...

I find this trend of calling every white woman you don't like a "Karen" to be disturbing.

It's misogynist and it's stupid. And let me be blunt: it's downright hateful.

Call out objectionable behavior -- and explain precisely why it's objectionable -- but don't rely on stupid, misogynist stereotypes.

Yesterday, we had a couple of posts about a man who, after a road rage incident, following a woman back to her home (OMG!) to berate her and repeatedly call her a "Karen" on video. Apparently, he did this for TikTok points or whatever the viral currency is nowadays and to promote T-shirt sales (immediately after posting the video, the guy, a professional comedian, tried to sell T-shirts based on this incident.). This guy was also, according to one source, a black Trump supporter, who had a restraining order against him by one woman, and who had previously accused other women of calling him a racial slur. (Curious how women always seemed to be his opponents. Wonder why that was?) And yet we had DUers siding with him and against her. We had DUers calling her hysterical and crazy for being freaked about by a strange male following her home (again, OMG!).

Enough already. Using the word "Karen" does not make you edgy. It makes you look stupid (at best).

[whathehell]

30. Thank you..

I'm a white woman who's also noticed this trend and found it disturbing...I know I'm not alone in appreciatiing your support.

"Call out objectionable behavior -- and explain precisely why it's objectionable -- but don't rely on stupid, misogynist stereotypes."

You've summed it up perfectly -- Thanks again, friend.

[JCMach1]

31. Then the term has done the proper job... It should

Make you feel uncomfortable

[whathehell]

35. Um, no, stereotyping one gender of one race with mocking nicknames

is basic bigotry and in decided violation of DU rules..If you're in doubt about this, I suggest you note the hidden post on this thread and then have a nice day.

[PTWB]

36. What did it say?

[whathehell]

39. It negatively stereotyped white women,

with the "karen" meme and more.

[PTWB]

42. I don't have any issue with the term Karen when used properly.

As long as it is not used in a misogynistic way. I don’t mind labeling a man who is behaving badly a Dick, and I don’t mind labeling a woman behaving badly as a Karen. It is a term that allows us to pinpoint and label bad behavior. In this day and age of tweets and hashtags, #Karen is a powerful tool to quickly call out someone who is exploiting their privilege, often in a racist way.

The problem for me comes when people start using that term to describe women in much more generic scenarios. THAT is not okay.

[whathehell]

43. I do, and acccording to DU rules, there is no "proper"way

to do it, as it consists of singling out a particular gender and race for a disrespectful nickname, i.e. white women, and, no, "dicks" is not comparable, because, for one thing, it's race neutral.

It's racist and sexist, period. Any in doubt should ask themselves if badly behaved black men should be referred to as "Jamals", or badly behaved black women "Lakeishas".

An honest response to that question should provide some insight.

[PTWB]

45. I would find those nicknames racist.

We can disagree about Karen - when used properly it is calling out someone exploiting their privilege often in a racist way.

We ought to be careful with such terms so that they do not become misogynistic slurs. If that happens they should be banned, of course.

If you feel that the term Karen is being used inappropriately and in a way that violates the rules I suggest you report those posts. I know I report misogynistic content occasionally. I saw someone post a meme last week with the b-word in it and there were many posters who cheered it on.

[JonLP24]

56. The B word would cause a lot more controversy

People like to bring up nice women named Karen as to why Karen is a bad term. Well this is from a Karen I follow.

Link to tweet

[PTWB]

58. Clearly not since I called it out in the same post you replied to.

They’re very different. See the other reply.

[JCMach1]

62. It still has been a very good agitprop meme

Calling out mainly white women playing the race card...

Agitprop is usually not nice... It is designed as a means of resistance.

If you are using it as a means of resistance against a racist majority, I have 0 issues with it.

Doesn't mean I would use it, but in context feel free.

It's actually rather benign relative what some of these people could and should be called.

[kcr]

64. I agree. But DU loves it. I see it more here than anywhere else these days.

Not surprised anymore.

[USALiberal]

68. +1000! nt

[marie999]

33. I am a white woman and I don't consider these women Karens.

Stupid yes, but I associate the term Karen more with racism or well to do women putting down the poor.

[whathehell]

37. Stereotyping any single group,

be they white women or black men, has NO place on a progressive board. Period.

[womanofthehills]

60. Actually - just saying one phrase - she 's a Karen -

Is a short cut that is not going away any time soon
because there are too many really dumb Trump racists. I like giving them a name. So ......... we should not stereotype really angry mean white women who are racists????

[gollygee]

61. They aren't all Trumpers

A lot of them seem to be but I remember at least a couple being Democrats. We all have work to do as far as racism goes.

[gollygee]

59. I don't know a whole lot about this case

but yeah the Karen thing might be misplaced here. It's about white women using their position in our society to gain favor or win in confrontations with Black people or other POC. It isn't for every time a white woman is upset about anything. Sometimes people get upset about stuff.

[whathehell]

44. A "mob" of three?

Nice try..How 'bout a Jail full of Joshes for those RW White guys?

Nah..Trashing White women makes for SO much more misogynist fun.

[Nac Mac Feegle]

50. Ironically

Complaining about the "Karen" controversy is one of the most Karen things to do.

It's akin to the "It's racist to call me a racist" bit, if you really think about it.

[kcr]

65. But this isn't even a thread on race.

Sorry. I'm not going to shut up.

[edhopper]

66. No

It is nothing like that at all.
It's more like calling out white privilege.

But please proceed.

[JCMach1]

67. Precisely

[USALiberal]

69. Quit pushing the "Karen" BS! nt