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Judge Sullivan refuses to dismiss Flynn case told to by my wife.
A update at 07:12 my wife read this on glen Kirschner twitter account
canetoad
(17,134 posts)How far the Barr/Trump DOJ will go to get Flynn off the hook.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)TEB
(12,822 posts)My friend Hortensis Yes let this be true
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)And Sullivan has a huge advantage: he knows the law.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)Being suspicious of Trump and everyone around him, Im wondering whether Flynn has something on Trump that he is threatening to reveal if he is not cleared. Trump isnt really loyal to anyone, so its curious that hes expending so much effort to clear Flynn.
TEB
(12,822 posts)What does he have on trump
Solomon
(12,310 posts)blakstoneranger
(333 posts)PCIntern
(25,467 posts)I personally know three women from New York who have something on Trump. But it never seems to matter.
mercuryblues
(14,521 posts)If he is pardoned after he pled guilty it will make trump look bad. If Flynn's plea is overturned it will be one more talking point on how the the Obama administration and Democrats would do anything Witch hunt! Then repukes can open up yet another investigation into Obama/BIDEN.
demented_cleric
(2 posts)If he's guilty then Trump is guilty too. If the case against Flynn goes away, then any case against Trump goes too.
panader0
(25,816 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(72,377 posts)Welcome to DU.
lark
(23,059 posts)Demsrule86
(68,455 posts)StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)That's crap, but ...
jaxexpat
(6,793 posts)Trump never passes up a "F--K YOU" moment. Even when ,"thanks" would be more appropriate.
It's in the echo of his every word, every timbre of his speech, hand gestures, head inclination, maliciously petulant squinted eyed glare exposing his perpetual anger, near rage. Usually aimed at those who dare to exercise authority over him. Even inanimate objects, like the constitution and rule of law, for instance. Because they represent the threat of limitations branded onto his infantile brain while in his crib, unattended, years ago and every moment since, summoning those same feelings of primal frustration and seething impatience.
He may just need changing and a bottle. Maybe just gas.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Ohioboy
(3,238 posts)Flynn, Trump, Pence and the whole gang know damn well that Flynn was in contact with the Russians over sanctions behind Obama's back. It was recorded. Flynn lied to the FBI and they knew it because the FBI is allowed to listen in on conversations with foreign diplomats. Flynn was caught on a call with a foreign diplomat. The FBI did nothing illegal, and Flynn was caught.
At first, Trump and team needed to make it appear that they didn't know Flynn was going behind Obama's back, so Trump fired Flynn under the narrative that he had lied to Pence. This was necessary because Pence had made public statements about the situation that made it apparent they all knew, unless Flynn had lied to Pence. Flynn basically took one for Team Trump to keep their story straight. This left Trump owing Flynn big time.
Flynn, having been caught, pleaded guilty.
For awhile Trump didn't know whether Flynn had spilled the beans or not. That's why Trump got accused of trying to tamper with Flynn as a witness. There were even times when Trump seemed to hint at a pardon for Flynn. This is all easy to look up.
Now, Trump needs Flynn to be the innocent victim of FBI abuse in order to change history and keep himself from being guilty.
Eyeball_Kid
(7,429 posts)Dios Mio
(429 posts)thats true. Of all the recent events, this has really put my snickers in a snot. Aside from that, AGs face looks like a squinty eyed pig.
hlthe2b
(102,104 posts)I too hope he is right, but note that he states 'IMO'
Link to tweet
Psst. You really should edit your subject line to state that Kirschner BELIEVES ....
TEB
(12,822 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)He pled guilty. Dismissal of the case is so obviously a political thing. No one is fooled.
I hope the judge gets to retry the case.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)It seems as if laws do not matter when it comes to Trump.
StarfishSaver
(18,486 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,027 posts)jaxexpat
(6,793 posts)Is that part of the endocrine system? The "unitary" gland. King of all the glands? in all the land.
I kid.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)It makes it hard to pee, and causes orange skin.
HuskyOffset
(888 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)crickets
(25,950 posts)So far, the Supreme Court has disagreed with him. So far.
The 40-Year War: William Barrs long struggle against congressional oversight
The historical evidence for that argument is exceedingly thin.
Yet Trump and Barr alike will adopt any means necessary to defeat challenges to presidential power, which even includes false testimony under oath by senior administration officials in judicial proceedings, as was the case in the failed effort to justify a citizenship question on the 2020 census. The claim to presidential power that may be most dangerous to democracy is the power to ration information to Congress and the American people. Neither Congress nor the courts nor voters can effectively check power abused in secret. And Congress's power to require information from the president may be the power most difficult to reclaim if Congress yields that power in a tactical retreat in advance of the 2020 election.
For Barr, this central confrontation with Congress over Congress's power to investigate represents unfinished business.
Long, detailed article--not unbiased, but well informed and well worth the read.
calimary
(81,085 posts)God Bless Judge Sullivan!