JUST IN: Austin new cases of the virus are from non isolators or not wearing masks

[sunonmars]

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JUST IN: Austin/Travis County officials say that the new cases of the virus we're seeing are from people not isolating or wearing face masks

"If we do not make significant change right now, then we are going to be in a situation within the next week to two weeks where I'm going to have to make the recommendation to the Mayor and Judge that we shut down, and I do not want to do that," said Austin Travis County Interim Health Authority Dr. Mark Escott.

Dr. Escott, joined by other medical professionals in the Central Texas region in a virtual Q&A, is pleading for the public to get serious about social distancing, wearing a mask, and staying home as much as possible.


Surprise surprise

[Newest Reality]

1. And: Research shows that fire is very hot.

[sunonmars]

2. I think they are making the point that the assholes running around with no masks are fueling this.

Stay away from them...................

[Budi]

4. Which Dem called out Gym Jordan for not wearing a mask

At yesterday's hearing. Who was that?

He acted like a child being told to stop picking his nose.

[johnnyfins]

24. I don't get it. It's a house rule...

Why don't they just have the Sergeant at Arms warn him, then throw him the hell out when he doesn't comply. Same thing with the dickhead from Texas tapping on his desk. THROW THEM OUT. They want to act like children? Send them to the principal's office. No need for all of the good congressmen and women to have to suffer these assholes.

[cannabis_flower]

42. Yes

Who's in charge here anyway? Don't elections matter? Democrats are a majority in the House. They should start acting like it.

[Budi]

44. ? Dems fault that Gym had to be riduculed into putting his mask on?.

Its always the Dems fault.
Got it. 😷

[wnylib]

48. Dems fault if we don'tctgrow him out.

[cannabis_flower]

51. No

They should have been removed. It's not the dems fault they acted like 2 year olds. But just like 2 year olds, they will keep doing it if they aren't punished for it.

[Budi]

54. Like Gohmert, it's all theatrics. Like defiant foot stompung bullys.

Gym was ridiculed into submission.

I agree he & Gohmert deserved more than an public ass whipping. They should have been removed to a toddler time-out.

(However, I do object to the swiping at Democrats. Seems to be an awful lot of that thrown around here. )


Here. The answer to my question.

Link to tweet

[lagomorph777]

3. Yeah, not exactly breaking news!

[LisaL]

5. And water is wet.

[aggiesal]

14. Or solid or steam. Just saying. n/t

[mwb970]

23. Water is the liquid form.

[aggiesal]

25. Sorry, water can be liquid, solid or steam. n/t

[mwb970]

26. Here in Ohio, we call it "ice" or "steam" when it is frozen or gaseous.

We call the liquid form "water". I have never in my life heard anyone complain that they slipped on a patch of water on a cold winter morning. I have never heard a locomotive called a "water engine".

This is the last I will post on this topic, as it is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Sorry.

water [ waw-ter, wot-er ]
noun

1. a transparent, odorless, tasteless liquid, a compound of hydrogen and oxygen, H2O, freezing at 32°F or 0°C and boiling at 212°F or 100°C, that in a more or less impure state constitutes rain, oceans, lakes, rivers, etc.: it contains 11.188 percent hydrogen and 88.812 percent oxygen, by weight.

2. a special form or variety of this liquid, as rain.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/water?s=t

[aggiesal]

31. Ice is frozen WATER, steam is vaporized WATER ...

Water can exist in liquid, solid or steam.

https://www.pvwc.com/story_of_water/html/3forms.htm

[wnylib]

49. Aren't steam vapor and ice still wet?

[aggiesal]

52. Steam is actually consided a gas not a liquid so it's not considered wet, ...

ice is a solid so the water properties change.

https://www.pvwc.com/story_of_water/html/3forms.htm

[wnylib]

57. OK. But I still think the post that

challenged the comment about water being wet was a bit nit-picking and unnecessary. In its liquid state, the commonly used term is water. In its gaseous state, the commonly used term is vapor or steam. In its solid form the common word is ice.

Since this is a general discussion forum and not a science one, people will use common terms and properties. Saying that water is wet seems perfectly acceptable to me.

[aggiesal]

58. I never challenged the comment ...

I never said water is NOT wet.
Stating water is NOT wet would have challenged the comment.

I just said that water can be solid or steam.
No degradation intended or implied.
Purely informational.

[Mister Ed]

60. Since we're picking nits here...you're confusing steam with water vapor.

Water in its gaseous form is water vapor, not steam. Steam is small droplets of liquid water suspended in air. It's not a gas.

It's a common misperception, but my high school science teacher never let it go uncorrected.

[aggiesal]

61. Thanks ...

And the link I supplied in earlier post, specifically stated that steam is a form of gaseous water.

[Squinch]

6. There have been studies that show that the 3 day delay on shutting down NY resulted in tens

of thousands of deaths.

These idiots are going to wait a lot longer than 3 days.

I just want to put my head under the covers and not watch this wave that we all know is coming. People are so convinced this is nothing, and within weeks they are going to be completely devastated.

I wish I felt shadenfreude, but all I feel is grief for them and their families.

[sunonmars]

7. You can see the doctors are desperate to tell people to get masks on and distance...but its Texas.

[Squinch]

8. They know what is coming, and THEY are the front lines. This behavior of everyone else is

more dangerous to the healthcare workers than to anyone else.

Sick of the lip service of "thank you first responders" and "first responders, you are heros!" when all people are really doing is treating them like cannon fodder.

[iluvtennis]

21. + agree. thank the first responders and healthcare workers by wearing a mask, not with words.

[Delphinus]

62. You said it!

Masks and distancing says a whole lot more than empty words. Actions vs. words.

[MagickMuffin]

11. But it's Texas and ALL the other 49 States that has MAGA's in them

It isn't JUST Texans that have issues with wearing masks. They are in every state in the union.

[Squinch]

29. No. I'm in NY. Even most deplorables here mask.

I guess seeing field hospitals set up in your town and then seeing them fill has a way of focussing the mind.

[brush]

55. Gov. Cuomo did a great job of leadership. NY not only flatten the curve, it bought...

down on the other side of the arc. It's a damn shame that repug governors in the south and west followed the idiotic leadership of trump with his no-mask policy, and then re-opened early without adhering to the CDC policies of 14-day downturns of infections.

The result is the all the western and southern states are spiking back to April infection rates.

trump is the reason we are where we are. It's almost criminal as to the number of deaths, deaths that were avoidable.

[Javaman]

30. our hospitals are going go be full in less than 2 weeks. I predict much sooner than that.

houston is already at 97 percent.

we are truly and seriously fucked.

see y'all on the other side.

[Squinch]

34. It is terrifying to see the wave coming. At least in NY we have Cuomo, who had our backs. But

Javaman, masks really do work. You can keep yourself and your loved ones safe.

Check this out:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/no-covid-19-cases-linked-212053118.html

And here in NY, we had the packed protests but so far there has been no spike, and I think it's because everyone here wears masks.

Be OCD, get exercise and take excellent care of yourself so you don't get some other illness during the surge.

Mask everywhere.

Also, put some food by in case deliveries get interrupted. I think it is going to last in these spiking places longer than it did for us.

I know what you are facing right now, and I really feel for you. Be careful and you will weather this. I wish you safety and health.

[Javaman]

37. Oh I know masks work...

but the issue is the dumb asses in my state, including my asshole gov abbott, choose not to wear them. I think, primarily out of spite for... I have no fucking earthly idea.

My GF and I have been in shelter in place since march 16th and we wear masks everywhere. And we only do curbside service.

the weird looks we were getting upto and through the memorial day holiday was mind boggling.

3 weeks ago, I had to go to whole foods to pick up a bulk 50 pound bag of flour. all the employees were wearing masks, but when I started to leave, I saw people coming in without them.

I go to the manager and I said, there are people coming in without masks. ( I was pissed and loud).

And he said, "it's optional for the public".

I let out a loud, "what the fuck? then what's the point".

then I sad, with that kind of policy, I'm not shopping here ever again.

and here we are. just so much stupidity in this state.

My GF and I had seen the writing on the wall and have ordered a bunch of stuff in bulk and vacuum sealed it. This winter will be really bad.

[Squinch]

38. I think you're right about the coming winter. Do you think the people who are so resistant now

will change their minds once they realize the numbers are climbing so fast?

[Javaman]

40. some will change and will wear masks but quite frankly...

most won't because...texas. there is this streak of gross stupidity in this state that is remarkable.

they would rather die "thinking" they were right rather than "give in" to the "man".

the odd level of paranoia in this state is weird.

it just boggles my mind.

oh and FYI...I'm originally from Hicksville, L.I.

[OrlandoDem2]

9. Half the country needs to go back on quarantine.

[sunonmars]

10. No chance getting the rightwingers back in the box as Trump has convinced them its all perfectly ok.

Stay away from idiots, if they are not wearing a mask, avoid them as fast as you can.

[plimsoll]

12. It's odd, but I keep seeing this as a weak evolutionary event.

The most adaptive behavior is to work with others to reduce the spread of disease.

Anti-social people don't want to work with others.

Almost by definition they will be selected against.

[aggiesal]

13. Covidiots! n/t

[Buckeye_Democrat]

15. Yep, as expected. It's not like Japan and Taiwan...

... completely shut down when the virus hit them, but they've been wearing masks.

[Igel]

18. Japan didn't really shut down.

S. Korea did.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

22. Yeah, that makes an even stronger argument for masks.

Japan shut down some of their mass transit for awhile, didn't they? Maybe I'm imagining things after taking in so much information over the last few months.

[not fooled]

16. Here we go

[link:https://eand.co/the-red-states-of-coronavirus-b432ef7ed9d0?source=linkShare-41e01d325219-1593007923&_branch_match_id=769697641877480405|]

The Red States of Coronavirus
America’s Red States Have Coronavirus Numbers As Catastrophic as the World’s Poorest Countries

There’s a strange and grim thing happening in America. Well, another one. Call it the Red States of Coronavirus.

Red states are seeing rises in Coronavirus so explosive they rival — or are greater than — the world’s poorest, devastated countries.

Yes, really. Florida had 4000 new cases yesterday. Just Florida alone!

Pakistan — the entire country — had 5000 cases. Florida’s population is 21 million. Pakistan’s population is…212 million. On a per capita basis, that means that Florida alone has about ten times as many new cases as Pakistan.

Pakistan is one of the world’s poorest, most devastated, dysfunctional countries.

And yet Florida alone is outdoing it in terms of acceleration in Coronavirus.

My God. Are you seeing the surreal, absurd, bizarre, shocking scale of this yet — what I mean by the Red States of Coronavirus?

[Igel]

19. It's people in Austin talking to people in Austin.

Austin is bright blue. When the rest of the state goes red, it's still bright blue. (And the rest of the state hasn't gone all read for many years. The worst hot spots are blue.)

[not fooled]

27. Yes,

my post was directed at TX as a whole. And, I hope, less red in the upcoming election.

[Lonestarblue]

36. We may be a blue city, but we still have right wingers here.

Remember that Austin is home to one of the chief wing nuts, Alex Jones. Most of the people I’ve seen without masks here are young people. I’ve also seen a number of road repair/construction crews without masks. Since they’re working outside, I’m sure masks are hot. Our governor needs to stop sucking up to Trump and mandate masks in public.

[cannabis_flower]

50. I'm not so sure

It's all that necessary for road crews to be wearing masks. Unless they are working in close contact. Most of the time you will see one directing traffic and two or three digging. They are usually spaced more than 10 or 12 feet apart. They should at least have masks in case they need to work near each other and use them in those instances.

[aggiesal]

20. Guess where they moved the (R) convention? n/t

[aggiesal]

17. Shocked, shocked, to find that gambling is going on in here ...

[Javaman]

28. I think we can file this one under: no shit Sherlock. nt

[Takket]

32. Just in! Making no effort to stop virus spread enables virus spread

DUH

[ananda]

33. My breathable masks are arriving today.

I have to be extra cautious now.

People around here have been lax for awhile.

[Buckeye_Democrat]

41. I'm using an N100 mask with an exhalation valve...

... and I cover the valve with a cloth mask from Joann Fabrics (which are big).

And SOMEHOW it's still easier to breathe through both of them that just wearing the cloth mask by itself!

If I'm around others not wearing masks at all, off comes the cloth cover. Fuck 'em, if that's how they want to behave. (I know that I haven't been infected yet anyway.)

This is the mask with the exhalation valve:

[Mersky]

35. Ha. The sinclair affiliate in Austin decided to get sort of real.

They don’t much back up that statement of the obvious at the link, but nonetheless is a useful assertion.

It’s such a moment, that I had to screenshot that tweet. I’ve made it a habit to avoid KEYE like the plague because they’re, welp, sinclair.

[BobTheSubgenius]

39. What the hell is wrong with people???

The mortality rates for most states is appalling, and there is less concern in many of them, because NY's numbers are ghastly.

There are 4 states that have a lower mortality rate per 100K than BC, where I live - Alaska, Wyoming, Hawaii and Montana. Hawaii, of course, is isolated, and social distancing in the other 3 is just a way of life.

And yet signs of people getting with the program are not encouraging. A sea change in attitudes and behaviors is VITAL. I don't think I'm being hysterical to suggest that staying on the course currently charted could mean damage to society that will be massive and more or less permanent.

If these trends continue, even a compassionate government is going to have to throw people to the wolves. Maintaining support at even a tiny facsimile of "our" way of life for 10's of millions of people is beyond unsustainable.

I am very worried about this news.

[crickets]

43. When anyone starts discussing shutdown in the future, what they are really saying

is that they know the shutdown should already be in place. What they are really handwringing about is the lack of strength and integrity to go ahead and take proper action, knowing that the longer they mess around, the more people will die. And still they talk but do not act.

[IronLionZion]

45. The pandemic in the US is completely out of control now

too many people in too many places have it and are spreading it through willful disregard for basic common sense.

The shutdowns were to buy time for a national test, trace, isolate program that never came. Selfish greedy assholes want their stock profits but don't want to pay unemployment for workers or any type of rent/mortgage relief for homes or small businesses.

124,443 deaths. We are well past total US deaths in WW1 and our asshole president thinks he's going to be reelected.

[LudwigPastorius]

46. Breaking news from the Department of 'No Shit?'

[Johnny2X2X]

47. Where in the article does it back the headline up?

Saw nothing in the article indicating these cases were traced to people not wearing masks.

[LudwigPastorius]

53. Apparently, the article's editor based the headline on this statement:

https://www.kxan.com/news/austin-public-health-to-give-covid-19-update-at-9-a-m/

One concern brought up during the news briefing was a drop in preventative measures at public places such as bars and restaurants now that the state is beginning to reopen.

“Anecdotally, we have heard reports. I’ve certainly seen a decrease in the social distancing and mask-wearing at places where I have been, and it’s important for the community to understand,” Escott said. “And they’re very confused because we are in an election year, and I think in many circumstances the public’s being told ‘You have to choose public health or the economy — those are the only two choices,’ and that’s simply not true.”

So no, the increase in cases has not been proven to be because people are not wearing masks, but if they haven't been (which also jibes with what I've seen lately), it is logical to assume unmasked interaction increases the spread of the disease.

[triron]

56. I recently visited Smith's store here in Albuquerque.

I was dismayed to see people inside the store shopping without masks or
even practicing social distancing. Scared me actually. Tried to stay away from them.
We had an uptick in new cases here in Bernalillo cty. yesterday. Disheartening after
all the progress we have been making here and in the rest of the state.

[Skittles]

59. in other words: selfish assholes

fucking MAGAts