Trump doesn't follow coronavirus guidelines/laws because "he's not a civilian," White House says

[Mrs. Overall]

Is this true? The president isn't considered a "civilian"?

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/24/trump-will-not-follow-new-jersey-coronavirus-quarantine-order.html

Trump will not follow New Jersey coronavirus quarantine order, ‘he’s not a civilian,’ White House says

The White House said Wednesday that President Donald Trump will not change his plan to travel to New Jersey this weekend despite a new order by the governor requiring visitors who have been in states with high numbers of coronavirus cases to quarantine for 14 days.

“The president of the United States is not a civilian,” said White House spokesman Judd Deere, when asked about Trump’s compliance with the quarantine order given his travel Tuesday to Arizona, which has seen a rise in the rate of its Covid-19 cases.

“Anyone who is in close proximity to him, including staff, guests, and press are tested for COVID-19 and confirmed to be negative,” Deere said in a statement.

“With regard to Arizona, the White House followed it’s COVID mitigation plan to ensure the President did not come into contact with anyone who was symptomatic or had not been tested,” the spokesman added.

[zaj]

1. I actually agree...

He should follow all best practices as much as feasible. 14-day quarantine for the President isn't reasonable. He is not a civilian and has other obligations. He shouldn't be going there, but he's also not obligated to follow those guidelines (or laws).

[malaise]

2. Lock him up!

Rec

[RobertDevereaux]

3. He is indeed a civilian.

https://law.justia.com/constitution/us/article-2/11-the-president-as-commander-of-the-armed-forces.html

[Laelth]

17. Indeed. He MUST be a civilian.

Please see response #14 below.

-Laelth

[sop]

4. "Anyone who is in close proximity to him, including staff, guests, and press are tested

for COVID-19 and confirmed to be negative." What? I though Trump said testing only increased the numbers.

[no_hypocrisy]

5. And I'm certain that the Virus will make an exception for HIM . . . . . .

[Flaleftist]

6. The virus doesn't give a shit what Trump and the thousands

of people who will go with him to New Jersey are. Irresponsible fucks.

[global1]

7. Thyphoid Trump.....nt

[Elwood P Dowd]

8. He is definitely not a civilian.

In order to qualify as a civilian you first have to be a human being.

[RobertDevereaux]

10. True. He's a villainous incivilian!

[Baclava]

9. Let him declare himself a War Criminal President, that worked out so well for Mussolini

[C_U_L8R]

11. He's never even had a civil thought or idea.

Small-handed vulgarian is more exact.

[secondwind]

12. He's Putin's PUPPET. Nothing more, nothing less.

[IggleDuer]

13. If not a civilian, then he needs to follow the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Military members are subject to civilian laws, too.

[rickford66]

23. And military justice can follow.

[IggleDuer]

32. Let's do it!

N/t

[Laelth]

14. This is a very dangerous and stupid argument that Trump is making.

The President of the United States MUST be a civilian. It has long been a bedrock principle of our republic that our military is under civilian control. That’s how we avoid a military dictatorship. The President, as Commander in Chief, must always be a civilian. He may have served in the military, previously, but he must be considered (and act like) a civilian once elected President. That’s why you never saw Eisenhower, or Kennedy, or Carter in their military uniforms after they were elected.

The President of the United States is the DEFINITION of a civilian in this country. It is dangerous and stupid to argue otherwise.

-Laelth

[milestogo]

16. he thinks the virus reports to him

[RobertDevereaux]

31. Thank you!

[Atticus]

33. As Myron Cohen might have said: "Well! If you're gonna throw common sense at us----" nt

[milestogo]

15. He deserves to catch it, spread it to his whole family,

get very sick, and spend his last miserable days alone on a ventilator.

[Thomas Hurt]

18. Trump is uncivil, uncivilized, amoral and emotional stunted.

But the office he holds is civilian. Trump and his servile lackeys think he is King, the same as the state, and above the law.

[Blue Owl]

19. He's a sick villain

n/t

[Golden Raisin]

20. He thinks he's a king and therefore above the law and Lese-majeste applies.

[marlakay]

21. Well if he's not a civilian put a mask on!

My daughter told me yesterday you can’t go on base without one where she lives in Texas. And all stores anywhere on base. Even the military knows he’s full of shit.

[unblock]

22. "Civilian" is the wrong word, but it sounds better than "white entitled above the law superspreader"

[North Shore Chicago]

24. Nope

Anus45 is not civil at all. Drink bleach, ya fecking ijit!

[Proud Liberal Dem]

25. But he's human (supposedly)

[Wounded Bear]

26. Trump doesn't follow rules because he's an asshole...

[spanone]

27. Because he's not human.

He's an asshole.

[SoonerPride]

28. He is actually 24,000,000 cockroaches in a human shaped skinbag

[Nevilledog]

29. So all of his entourage aren't civilians either?

And is this the same testing and best practices that within the last week resulted in at least 8 positives plus a "few dozens" of secret service having to quarantine?

[intheflow]

30. I'm a government worker.

I am required to wear a mask at my workplace even though we're not reopened to the public yet So this is exceptionally bull-shitty. "Civilians" can go maskless if they want, civil servants need to be masked for public safety. Also, he may be Commander in Chief, but the President is not a member of the military. Especially if he opted out of the military due to bone spurs!!