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Is this true? The president isn't considered a "civilian"?
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/24/trump-will-not-follow-new-jersey-coronavirus-quarantine-order.html
Trump will not follow New Jersey coronavirus quarantine order, hes not a civilian, White House says
The White House said Wednesday that President Donald Trump will not change his plan to travel to New Jersey this weekend despite a new order by the governor requiring visitors who have been in states with high numbers of coronavirus cases to quarantine for 14 days.
The president of the United States is not a civilian, said White House spokesman Judd Deere, when asked about Trumps compliance with the quarantine order given his travel Tuesday to Arizona, which has seen a rise in the rate of its Covid-19 cases.
Anyone who is in close proximity to him, including staff, guests, and press are tested for COVID-19 and confirmed to be negative, Deere said in a statement.
With regard to Arizona, the White House followed its COVID mitigation plan to ensure the President did not come into contact with anyone who was symptomatic or had not been tested, the spokesman added.
zaj
(3,433 posts)He should follow all best practices as much as feasible. 14-day quarantine for the President isn't reasonable. He is not a civilian and has other obligations. He shouldn't be going there, but he's also not obligated to follow those guidelines (or laws).
malaise
(269,211 posts)Rec
RobertDevereaux
(1,858 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)Please see response #14 below.
-Laelth
sop
(10,274 posts)for COVID-19 and confirmed to be negative." What? I though Trump said testing only increased the numbers.
no_hypocrisy
(46,230 posts)Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)of people who will go with him to New Jersey are. Irresponsible fucks.
global1
(25,279 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)In order to qualify as a civilian you first have to be a human being.
RobertDevereaux
(1,858 posts)Baclava
(12,047 posts)C_U_L8R
(45,021 posts)Small-handed vulgarian is more exact.
secondwind
(16,903 posts)IggleDuer
(964 posts)Military members are subject to civilian laws, too.
rickford66
(5,528 posts)IggleDuer
(964 posts)N/t
Laelth
(32,017 posts)The President of the United States MUST be a civilian. It has long been a bedrock principle of our republic that our military is under civilian control. Thats how we avoid a military dictatorship. The President, as Commander in Chief, must always be a civilian. He may have served in the military, previously, but he must be considered (and act like) a civilian once elected President. Thats why you never saw Eisenhower, or Kennedy, or Carter in their military uniforms after they were elected.
The President of the United States is the DEFINITION of a civilian in this country. It is dangerous and stupid to argue otherwise.
-Laelth
milestogo
(16,829 posts)RobertDevereaux
(1,858 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)milestogo
(16,829 posts)get very sick, and spend his last miserable days alone on a ventilator.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)But the office he holds is civilian. Trump and his servile lackeys think he is King, the same as the state, and above the law.
Blue Owl
(50,523 posts)n/t
Golden Raisin
(4,614 posts)marlakay
(11,503 posts)My daughter told me yesterday you cant go on base without one where she lives in Texas. And all stores anywhere on base. Even the military knows hes full of shit.
unblock
(52,355 posts)North Shore Chicago
(3,334 posts)Anus45 is not civil at all. Drink bleach, ya fecking ijit!
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,445 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,728 posts)spanone
(135,897 posts)He's an asshole.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)Nevilledog
(51,213 posts)And is this the same testing and best practices that within the last week resulted in at least 8 positives plus a "few dozens" of secret service having to quarantine?
intheflow
(28,505 posts)I am required to wear a mask at my workplace even though we're not reopened to the public yet So this is exceptionally bull-shitty. "Civilians" can go maskless if they want, civil servants need to be masked for public safety. Also, he may be Commander in Chief, but the President is not a member of the military. Especially if he opted out of the military due to bone spurs!!