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LiberalArkie

(15,714 posts)
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 12:21 PM Jun 2020

He Removed Labels That Said "Medical Use Prohibited," Then Tried to Sell Thousands of Masks to Offic

He Removed Labels That Said “Medical Use Prohibited,” Then Tried to Sell Thousands of Masks to Officials Who Distribute to Hospitals




Lucas Rensko was making money through a popular handyman-for-hire app called TaskRabbit, doing odd jobs and delivering groceries, when he picked up a task that led him to a leaky-roofed warehouse on a tattered road in northwest San Antonio.

Inside, a man named Jaime Rivera had set up long tables where five or six other “Taskers” earning about $20 an hour were ripping Chinese masks out of plastic bags and stuffing them into new ones that were identical but for one potentially deadly difference. The old packages were labeled in all caps “MEDICAL USE PROHIBITED,” meaning not to be used by doctors and nurses who need the strongest protection from tiny particles carrying the novel coronavirus. The new bags, intended to make their way to Texas hospitals, simply omitted that warning.

This seemingly small deception highlights a huge problem for medical workers whose best defense against a virus that ravages the body with horrifying complexity is a simple, but trustworthy, mask. That trust has eroded as Chinese-made masks claiming, sometimes falsely, to be 95% effective at filtering virus-laden particles made their way into hospitals and now local convenience stores. You might have bought them: KN95s.

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https://www.propublica.org/article/he-removed-labels-that-said-medical-use-prohibited-then-tried-to-sell-thousands-of-masks-to-officials-who-distribute-to-hospitals

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He Removed Labels That Said "Medical Use Prohibited," Then Tried to Sell Thousands of Masks to Offic (Original Post) LiberalArkie Jun 2020 OP
BFE. Is that the country of origin? Arkansas Granny Jun 2020 #1
The article says "Chinese masks". PoindexterOglethorpe Jun 2020 #2
What does BFE stand for in mask? LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #3
Just trying to be funny. Arkansas Granny Jun 2020 #5
That would work also. Not only did they remove the "not for medical use" they added the BFE LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #7
BFE 95% billh58 Jun 2020 #4
It wasn't on the original bag either. LisaL Jun 2020 #9
Anything KN95 is China. KN95 is their government standard. NutmegYankee Jun 2020 #11
+1 musette_sf Jun 2020 #20
That's just greedy. Those masks could still be sold how they were. Many non-medical... brush Jun 2020 #6
Probably. But this would give non-medical people false confidence, as apparently some of these masks LisaL Jun 2020 #8
That's not really an issue as the surgical and cloth masks that most people wear... brush Jun 2020 #10
These might be filtering less. LisaL Jun 2020 #15
Evil. Evil people are showing themselves for what they are Hortensis Jun 2020 #12
Yes. They crawled out from under their mossy rocks when the shadows of Trump and Putin appeared. C Moon Jun 2020 #19
No, not JUST greedy. CRIMINAL ENDANGERMENT. Medical workers lives at stake. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2020 #13
Oh, I agree. I'm just saying those masks could've been sold to non-medical people... brush Jun 2020 #14
I hope there is criminal PROSECUTION for him and his workers (who surely can read English). . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2020 #16
If you claim something is KN95 (which means it should be filtering 95% of particles) LisaL Jun 2020 #17
Not quite. The surgical and cloth masks and kerchiefs that most people wear... brush Jun 2020 #18
Really RobinA Jun 2020 #21

LiberalArkie

(15,714 posts)
3. What does BFE stand for in mask?
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 12:27 PM
Jun 2020


The Bacterial Filtration Efficiency (BFE) test is performed on filtration materials and devices that are designed to provide protection against biological aerosols, such as face masks, surgical gowns, caps, and air filters.

billh58

(6,635 posts)
4. BFE 95%
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jun 2020
This filtration material has gone through rigorous testing and has passed all required certifications for use as the filter material in masks and respirators for blocking 95% of particles. It has passed the BFE (Bacterial Filtration Efficiency) Test.

https://www.sailrite.com/Melt-Blown-Face-Mask-Filter-Material-BFE-95-50-10-Yds


Most likely bogus as well...

brush

(53,767 posts)
6. That's just greedy. Those masks could still be sold how they were. Many non-medical...
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 01:34 PM
Jun 2020

people would buy them.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
8. Probably. But this would give non-medical people false confidence, as apparently some of these masks
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 01:48 PM
Jun 2020

are filtering way less than 95% of particles.

brush

(53,767 posts)
10. That's not really an issue as the surgical and cloth masks that most people wear...
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 01:57 PM
Jun 2020

only filter about 60%, nowhere near what the legitimate N95 or N99 masks do. And most know they don't have the efficiency of the medical masks.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
15. These might be filtering less.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jun 2020

"The 6-foot stack of boxes were labeled as coming from a Chinese manufacturer, Guangzhou Aiyinmei Co. Ltd., which had been identified by the FDA as one of the companies producing ineffective KN95s. The masks filter as little as 39% of particles, according to testing by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. They’re so ineffective that Canada issued a recall. The FDA had hastily approved them and others for health care use at the beginning of the pandemic, but it changed its mind last month, even as millions of the masks circulated in the U.S."
https://www.propublica.org/article/he-removed-labels-that-said-medical-use-prohibited-then-tried-to-sell-thousands-of-masks-to-officials-who-distribute-to-hospitals

brush

(53,767 posts)
14. Oh, I agree. I'm just saying those masks could've been sold to non-medical people...
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 02:36 PM
Jun 2020

without deception and the guy could've still made a handsome profit. His greed for a bigger profit took it into criminality.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
17. If you claim something is KN95 (which means it should be filtering 95% of particles)
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 02:40 PM
Jun 2020

and it's filtering a lot less, I'd say even selling it to non-medical people is no good.

brush

(53,767 posts)
18. Not quite. The surgical and cloth masks and kerchiefs that most people wear...
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jun 2020

only filter out about 60%, and most people know that. Masks work if everybody wears them and also social distances—don't hang around gabbing, laughing, cheeing, singing etc. in crowds as it takes several minutes of exposure to get a good dose of infection.

They could've been sold without any deception claiming they were N95 standard and he wouldn't be criminally liable.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
21. Really
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jun 2020

All the mask packaging I see that regular people can buy says "Not For Medical Use." At work we got some Chinese N95s and I just don't trust them. My concern is what they are actually made of or coated with because they don't smell the same as the 3Ms I got at the beginning of this thing.

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