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Karl Rove hired to step in and save Trump. He has a 5 step plan.... (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jun 2020 OP
oh crap bdamomma Jun 2020 #1
Karl lost his fastball around 2006 BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #2
DAMN! elleng Jun 2020 #3
His plan: shunt all votes in the critical swing states with rethuglican SOSs to private diva77 Jun 2020 #4
exactly questionseverything Jun 2020 #11
Now that elections officials are doing away with precincts and going to "Voting" aka CHAOS Centers diva77 Jun 2020 #14
very few places have the hand counting transparency required sadly questionseverything Jun 2020 #23
I know all the machines in KY (I think it's all of them) are Dominion machines. KY SOS site had a diva77 Jun 2020 #26
they just disappear info anytime they want questionseverything Jun 2020 #27
GA used Dominion optical scanners in the recent election to count the ab ballots -- not a good sign diva77 Jun 2020 #28
they were sued to get paper (georgia) questionseverything Jun 2020 #30
I know - Coalitionforgoodgovernance.org sued to get rid of the BMDs after they sued to get rid of diva77 Jun 2020 #33
the chaos is a feature not a bug questionseverything Jun 2020 #36
Agree 100% regarding chaos. diva77 Jun 2020 #37
i could not find any results either questionseverything Jun 2020 #29
Good find! Wow, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. I was sure the spread sheet was mostly diva77 Jun 2020 #31
yes questionseverything Jun 2020 #32
no paper for most of them (unless i have an old list) questionseverything Jun 2020 #34
Part of the secret behind Moscow Mitch's longevity in office, to be sure. diva77 Jun 2020 #35
This uponit7771 Jun 2020 #39
Trump's confidence is too low to design his own campaign. Instead, NCjack Jun 2020 #5
Does that sort of remind you of some guy with a huge mustache? KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #18
Yeah. I think that Rove will not go the distance with the campaign NCjack Jun 2020 #20
Rove will piss someone off, and Jarvanka or Don Jr, or THE Donald will fire him Captain Zero Jun 2020 #38
Step 1: Dump the petulant man-child. Hugin Jun 2020 #6
maybe Rove is a poison pill here Grasswire2 Jun 2020 #7
Nah, Rove has no allegiance except to money MadLinguist Jun 2020 #8
I believe he had quite an allegiance to......... Jeff Gannon. not_the_one Jun 2020 #17
Lie - cheat - steal - block votes - lie some more lame54 Jun 2020 #9
That'll be a firing I'd pay to see!1 UTUSN Jun 2020 #10
They plan to say Biden is not fit enough to lead the country. UCmeNdc Jun 2020 #12
This won't last a week... Buckeyeblue Jun 2020 #13
Nothing can save Donald Trump..Why? Because he is .......DONALD TRUMP...., the dump!!!! Stuart G Jun 2020 #15
Does this mean Stephen Colbert will bring back the ham head with wire rimmed glasses?? a kennedy Jun 2020 #16
He'll be successful as...Reince Priebus, John F. Kelly, Mick Mulvaney, Kirstjen Nielsen... Yavin4 Jun 2020 #19
bet he signed an NDA. spanone Jun 2020 #21
Hahahaha! peggysue2 Jun 2020 #22
5 step plan Xolodno Jun 2020 #24
I know their strategy it is Jspur Jun 2020 #25
He denies he's been hired; and you can be sure he'd want money up front before making an effort muriel_volestrangler Jun 2020 #40

diva77

(7,629 posts)
4. His plan: shunt all votes in the critical swing states with rethuglican SOSs to private
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 02:39 PM
Jun 2020

rethuglican server in the dead of night after the polls close, then have rethuglican SOSs certify the results before anyone can raise enough money to demand a recount. Obstruct a recount at all costs.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
11. exactly
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jun 2020

to protect ourselves, we need to count the votes openly, transparently by hand

obamas campaign did that in a way because the volunteers knew the precincts and what numbers to expect

diva77

(7,629 posts)
14. Now that elections officials are doing away with precincts and going to "Voting" aka CHAOS Centers
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:40 PM
Jun 2020

the transparency aspect of precincts is gone.

K&R for exposure

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
23. very few places have the hand counting transparency required sadly
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 01:00 AM
Jun 2020

if the counting at the mega polling place was paper and by hand ,and the checklist of how many voted was reconciled with the number of ballots openly I wouldn't have as much problem with the mega station as I do because of the counting machines now

in ky last week peops kept talking about machines at the mega place, were they paperless?

diva77

(7,629 posts)
26. I know all the machines in KY (I think it's all of them) are Dominion machines. KY SOS site had a
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 01:36 AM
Jun 2020

spreadsheet of them county by county on the website, but last time I visited, I could no longer find it.

Yah, HCPB is mostly extinct.

If you have HCPB at the precinct level and post the handcount at the precinct before communicating with any other precincts, that is the best case scenario. The more centralized the count is, the more corruptible.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
27. they just disappear info anytime they want
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 01:48 AM
Jun 2020
https://bradblog.com/?p=7875

and if "they" don't like the first result, "they" just give a new one

////////////////

If you have HCPB at the precinct level and post the handcount at the precinct before communicating with any other precincts, that is the best case scenario.

I agree completely but if the mega had paper it would be better than paperless dre (if they actually let us count it)

I thought the ab ballets were a huge improvement in ky, I wish they were live streaming a hand count tho ( I can dream)

diva77

(7,629 posts)
28. GA used Dominion optical scanners in the recent election to count the ab ballots -- not a good sign
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 01:54 AM
Jun 2020

of things to come

diva77

(7,629 posts)
33. I know - Coalitionforgoodgovernance.org sued to get rid of the BMDs after they sued to get rid of
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:19 AM
Jun 2020

the DREs. Now they have to sue to get rid of the optiscans &/or do a recount.

I have to catch up with the latest.

It is so off the rails crazy -- the cheating and the purposeful complexity/chaos.

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
36. the chaos is a feature not a bug
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:28 AM
Jun 2020

all we can do is keep spreading the word and support those on the front line...

I appreciate all the articles you post



diva77

(7,629 posts)
37. Agree 100% regarding chaos.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:34 AM
Jun 2020

Thanks for your kind words. I very much appreciate your posts about election fraud issues -- including catching my incorrect info about the machines in KY!

diva77

(7,629 posts)
31. Good find! Wow, I feel like I'm in the twilight zone. I was sure the spread sheet was mostly
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:14 AM
Jun 2020

Dominion.

...will have to look around and see where I came up with that...

They're all nontransparent anyway...

questionseverything

(9,645 posts)
34. no paper for most of them (unless i have an old list)
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:23 AM
Jun 2020

Hart Intercivic eSlate. The Hart InterCivic eSlate is a direct recording electronic voting system where the voter turns a Select Wheel and pushes a button to indicate her preferences. The eSlate is connected via cable to the Judge’s Booth Controller (JBC; image above) which provides vote activation and vote storage for up to twelve eSlates.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
5. Trump's confidence is too low to design his own campaign. Instead,
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 02:46 PM
Jun 2020

he hired Karl Rove, a Bush-Rubio loyalist.

Giving control to Rove will fail because:

-- Trump is smarter than Rove. Only Trump knows what turns on his base and Indies.
-- Trump has a more sensitive hand on the controls than Rove. Rove will be experimenting with herky-jerky moves that will make Trump look stupid.
-- Trump is committed to winning; Rove isn't. When the election is over, Rove will walk away with his paycheck, and Trump will walk away with bloody butt-hurt.



KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
18. Does that sort of remind you of some guy with a huge mustache?
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:12 PM
Jun 2020

.............

I guess Rove is poorly and needs a book deal.....

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
20. Yeah. I think that Rove will not go the distance with the campaign
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:46 PM
Jun 2020

but will write a self-serving book.

Captain Zero

(6,784 posts)
38. Rove will piss someone off, and Jarvanka or Don Jr, or THE Donald will fire him
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:52 AM
Jun 2020

or if they keep Rove around and lose it WILL ALL BE ROVE's FAULT.
A real shitshow either way this all works out.

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
7. maybe Rove is a poison pill here
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 02:50 PM
Jun 2020

Maybe he intends to sabotage Trump, on behalf of real conservatives who are afraid to show themselves.

MadLinguist

(787 posts)
8. Nah, Rove has no allegiance except to money
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 03:25 PM
Jun 2020

Conservatives had more $$s to slosh around, so young Karl joined the ranks of political opportunists, and never looked back. He's probably thrilled to be rolling in the mud with the hogs of the current syndicate, but he wouldn't have a splatter on his pink hide if the bucks weren't rolling in thick and fast.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
17. I believe he had quite an allegiance to......... Jeff Gannon.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:09 PM
Jun 2020


while W watched, or vice versa..... There are rumors about W from his college days...

Didn't the manly man's manwhore have almost 200 recorded trips to the White House (where Karl worked), with some visits showing no record of him leaving? Maybe he snuck out the side door, after hours....

Enquiring minds want to know.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
12. They plan to say Biden is not fit enough to lead the country.
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 03:59 PM
Jun 2020

They will use any stumble or gaff against Joe Biden. They want to say Biden is out of touch and senile.

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
19. He'll be successful as...Reince Priebus, John F. Kelly, Mick Mulvaney, Kirstjen Nielsen...
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:14 PM
Jun 2020

Rex Tillerson
Anthony Scaramucci
Steve Bannon
Sebastian Gorka
H. R. McMaster
John Bolton
K. T. McFarland
Sean Spicer
Sarah Huckabee Sanders
Stephanie Grisham
Gary Cohn
Keith Kellogg

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
22. Hahahaha!
Thu Jun 25, 2020, 07:04 PM
Jun 2020
You're going to see some discipline.

Yeah, straight after we see pigs fly. Karl Rove can't make Trump into something he's not: rational, focused, disciplined. Karl Rove wasn't able to get Romney over the finish line in 2012 in a competitive race and with a reasonably rational & knowledgable candidate. The idea that Trump will conform to a narrow playbook is crazy in itself. And the economy? The true fallout has only just begun. Covid has again raised its ugly head with no signs of retreat. Then there's trying to paint Joe Biden as demented and enfeebled.

LOL.

Anyone listen to Biden's speech in Lancaster, Pa today? Compare that with Trump' rambling, incoherent spew in Tulsa where he spent 15 minutes explaining his weak West Point performance (Rampgate) and the fact he could drink water. With one hand, MOM!!!!

Nice venue, too. Russia Today is the first channel I tune in.







Xolodno

(6,384 posts)
24. 5 step plan
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 01:28 AM
Jun 2020

Step 1. Demand a shitload of money from his campaign.

Step 2. Tell Trump he has to do what he says, he agree's, but doesn't do anything Rove says.

Step 3. Cash Trump's check.

Step 4. Resign.

Step 5. Write a book. Go on the circuit how Trump is unfit for the job.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,269 posts)
40. He denies he's been hired; and you can be sure he'd want money up front before making an effort
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 06:10 AM
Jun 2020

The show saying "Rove Steps In" is base on this Politico article from the 17th June:

In late night phone calls, Oval Office meetings and informal conversations with outside advisers, Trump, Kushner and Parscale have discussed ways to revamp the president’s campaign and map out a narrow path to victory this fall. Last month, for instance, Rove was invited to the White House to join the president, Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna Romney McDaniel and senior Trump campaign officials for a political strategy session, during which they discussed the president’s standing in a handful of swing states and at least two hotly contested Senate races, according to three people familiar with the conversation.
...
People familiar with his involvement said Rove has urged the Trump campaign to focus on defining the president’s plans for a second term, highlighting his challenger’s policy shortcomings and encouraging the president to moderate his tweets as much as possible. Recently, the president and his campaign have been deeply engaged on a mission to convince voters that Joe Biden’s mental health is deteriorating — thus making him unfit for office.

“Karl Rove is a smart guy and he knows that if you sit by and let Trump go off the deep end with crazy tweets and an arena show, you’re just killing our Senate guys,” said a person involved with the Trump reelect.

In a statement to POLITICO, Rove said he has no involvement with the Trump campaign besides speaking to the president’s campaign manager and son-in-law every so often: “I suspect I’m one of a number of people whom Brad Parscale may call occasionally for reactions to a thought or idea on the campaign.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/17/trump-2020-karl-rove-324914

If he talked to them last month, then his suggestion to lay off "going off the deep end with crazy tweets and an arena show" clearly hasn't been taken up.
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