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Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:03 PM

I have a problem with John Bolton's "Democratic malpractice" claim about impeachment.

He claims there was a model from Watergate and the Democrats did not use it.

That simply is not true. Democrats controlled the House and Senate when Watergate was going on. And there were much more moderate Republicans at that time.

It would have been nice if Pelosi and the Democrats had had the votes to convict Trump. But, they knew they didn't have the votes. Still, they impeached. Because it was their duty to impeach. It was the duty of the Senate to convict. The House had to do their job, regardless of what the Senate did.

Bolton's claim of "Democratic malpractice" is not consistent with his comments that no matter if he had testified, no one was going to change their minds about Trump at that stage of the game. The Democrats could not change any minds? That does not mean the Democrats should not have impeached.

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Reply I have a problem with John Bolton's "Democratic malpractice" claim about impeachment. (Original post)
kentuck Jun 2020 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #1
Iggo Jun 2020 #33
Siwsan Jun 2020 #2
agingdem Jun 2020 #3
Fresh_Start Jun 2020 #4
stillcool Jun 2020 #5
onetexan Jun 2020 #6
Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #8
Bev54 Jun 2020 #11
Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #12
onetexan Jun 2020 #14
Wellstone ruled Jun 2020 #17
True Blue American Jun 2020 #7
onecaliberal Jun 2020 #9
dlk Jun 2020 #10
moondust Jun 2020 #13
spanone Jun 2020 #15
Gothmog Jun 2020 #16
certainot Jun 2020 #18
DeminPennswoods Jun 2020 #19
Marcuse Jun 2020 #20
kentuck Jun 2020 #21
Kashkakat v.2.0 Jun 2020 #22
NNadir Jun 2020 #23
czarjak Jun 2020 #24
stopdiggin Jun 2020 #25
LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #26
Hekate Jun 2020 #27
Major Nikon Jun 2020 #28
Hortensis Jun 2020 #29
louzke9 Jun 2020 #30
Nitram Jun 2020 #31
kentuck Jun 2020 #32

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:08 PM

1. I have a problem with John Bolton.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:06 PM

33. Thread over.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:08 PM

2. IMHO, Bolton is just deflecting from his cowardice and avarice

He is disgusting.

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Response to Siwsan (Reply #2)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:13 PM

3. he's rewriting his bio...

bolton's attempt to self-gaslight is pathetic...we have receipts...

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:15 PM

4. I thought he was a POS before now, his interview on Colbert

reminded me he is nothing but a partisan hack WHO when he had a chance to do the right thing for the country, did nothing.

At that point, trump's incompetence and unfitness was readily apparent to even Bolton, but he did nothing.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:16 PM

5. He's tap dancing his way around words

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:21 PM

6. The SOB was on MSNBC's Deadline WH earlier. Said he wouldn't vote for Biden & Repugs need to keep

the Senate. Slimy snake as usual. He said those things about the Idiot to make $ off his book. He's narcissistic & greedy like the Idiot.

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Response to onetexan (Reply #6)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:26 PM

8. Bolton is a true believer in the

 

Right wing Dogma,and always has been. Got to remember,he was a Aide to Agnew back in the day.
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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:37 PM

11. Yeah he said he thought Agnew was a great man

failed to say he was as corrupt a criminal as a VP and resigned in disgrace and went to jail. What a great man to look up to. Asshole is not any better.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #11)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:41 PM

12. But,Nixon found a home for him

 

and the rest is one pathetic Historical nightmare.
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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:02 PM

14. LOL funny thing is earlier he bragged about how he first got into politics by interning for Spiro

that he was impressed by how conservative and good this person was, and THEN it turned out he was a corrupt politician. Ironic.

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Response to onetexan (Reply #14)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:48 PM

17. Got them WMD's buried out there in the desert you know.

 

That and that Mobile Chemical lab. Friggin Agricultural Spray Nurse Truck,yup,way to go Johnny.
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:23 PM

7. Bolton did not impress me.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:34 PM

9. Bolton did not have the balls to go to congress and talk. He was already fired. It was HIS choice.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:37 PM

10. Bolton is an extremist, political hack

No one should care what he has to say.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 05:55 PM

13. Bullshit.

The WH was going to tie up everything in the courts for months. Ignoring subpoenas, withholding records, etc. Republicans turned committee hearings into a circus. I've heard Bolton try to compare that partisan circus to the Watergate committees. Watergate was long before the hyperpartisan gridlock created by Kenneth Starr, Fox News, Limbaugh, Gingrich, Tom Delay, Tea Party, McConnell, Dump & Co.

Bolton says he worked on the Goldwater and Reagan campaigns. He's been really fucked up for a really long time.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:18 PM

15. He's an insane WARMONGER!!!! FUCK HIM

He didn't talk when he needed too.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Thu Jun 25, 2020, 06:25 PM

16. Bolton is an asshole

I will not buy his book
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 08:04 AM

18. there is also the radio/limbaugh factor. he's full of shit to think enough

republicans would join the democrats to make a difference with trump/putin's radio stations blasting "TRAITOR!" all day

either he knows that is another difference re watergate and he's lying or he's a fucking idiot as well as an asshole

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 08:13 AM

19. John Bolton is a tool

that. is. all.
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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:54 AM

20. "Obstruction of Justice as a way of life". Bolton was complicit as anyone.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:09 PM

21. so help me God...

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 03:11 PM

22. It was downright Trumpian comment, i.e. attack Dems for what you yourself are guilty of. Not a r

reiable witness in other words. Is his book full of BS as well? Probably - why bother reading it.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:30 AM

23. I have a problem with John Bolton, period. He and Trump are alike in that they both hate America.

I have nothing to say about this slime mold of a man.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:09 PM

24. How many times does one person get to kill a country?

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:14 PM

25. It's the Democrat's fault ...

Well, of course .....
How could we have forgotten ....

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 06:13 PM

26. Pelosi, Schiff, and others need to come out and challenge Bolton.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 06:15 PM

27. Bolton is a self-serving SOB. Watergate? There were still Republicans with honor left...

Those were the men who walked over to Nixon's White House and told him it was time to go. For the good of the country.

But that was long ago -- in another country, so to speak, and those men are dead.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:59 PM

28. Even Goldwater supported Nixon's impeachment

As usual, Bolton is on the wrong side of history.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:16 PM

29. :) Kentuck, the argument's lost when we buy the premise.

No matter how right you are, NEVER start a refutation by repeating the claim you're refuting. Bolton didn't write the book I read it in, but he could ahve.

McConnell and company would have refused to find Trump guilty if he'd shot someone right there on the senate floor.

Everyone knew that going in.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 07:10 AM

30. Pay no mind.....

to what Bolton is claiming. Most people know he is trying to deflect from his unsavory behavior in all of this. Also it shows that Bolton is not that intelligent when it comes to historical facts and is hoping others are not either! But THESE FACTS are good to point out when we see bloggers criticize Democrats. Only a Democratic win of all three branches in November will can remedy some of the damage the GOP and Trump have foisted upon/to this country.

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Response to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:08 PM

31. Bolton's comments on the democratic impeachment process are a self-serving crock of shit.

The Democratic strategy of choosing a limited but very serious crime with clear evidence that it had been committed was smart and legally sound. Taking Bolton's path of charging Trump with every crime he had committed since entering office would have ended in a quagmire of confusion and competing narratives. As Bolton well knows. He sold out his country to make a few million dollars on a book.
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Response to Nitram (Reply #31)

Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:47 PM

32. +100

Well said!

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