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highplainsdem

(48,971 posts)
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:02 AM Jun 2020

Tribe: It's as if Trump's determined to destroy the entire country. "If you won't love me, then F-U"

Lauremce Tribe was commenting on yesterday's column by Eugene Robinson (link and excerpt from that below), in which Robinson said it's as if Trump is out to destroy the GOP.

Tribe says it's worse than that:







I’d up the ante: It’s as if Trump is determined to destroy the entire country. His parting message: “If you won’t love me, then F-U.” A scorched earth departure. One worthy of Steve Bannon or Stephen Miller. Or Nero!





Robinson's column yesterday:


https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-is-leading-the-republican-party-down-a-sewer-of-unabashed-racism/2020/06/25/44073be6-b71c-11ea-a510-55bf26485c93_story.html



It’s almost as if Trump is determined to destroy the Republican Party


-snip-

I’m talking to you, Sen. Susan Collins of Maine. And you, Sen. Cory Gardner of Colorado. And you, Sens. Thom Tillis of North Carolina, Martha McSally of Arizona, Joni Ernst of Iowa, Steve Daines of Montana, Kelly Loeffler of Georgia and John Cornyn of Texas. And while those of you in deep-red states whose reelection ordinarily would be seen as a mere formality may not see the giant millstones you’ve hung around your necks as a real risk, think again. Sen. Lindsey O. Graham of South Carolina and even Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, you should look at the numbers and realize you are putting your Senate seats — and the slim GOP majority — in dire jeopardy.

You can run and hide from reporters asking you about Trump’s latest statements or tweets. You can pretend not to hear shouted questions as you hurry down Capitol hallways. You can take out your cellphones and feign being engrossed in a terribly important call. Ultimately, you’re going to have to answer to voters — and in the meantime you have decided to let Trump speak for you. Best of luck with that.

It is not really surprising that Trump, with his poll numbers falling and his reelection in serious jeopardy, would decide to use race and public health as wedge issues to inflame his loyal base. That’s all he knows how to do.

-snip-

All the other Republicans who fail to speak up while Trump runs the most nakedly racist presidential campaign since George Wallace in 1968 shouldn’t kid themselves. Their silence amounts to agreement. Perhaps there’s enough white bitterness out there to carry the Republican Party to another narrow win. But that’s not what the polls say.

Trump’s antics are self-defeating. He’ll put on a racist show for a shrinking audience, but he won’t wear the masks that could allow the economic reopening he desperately wants. He may be able to avoid reality, but the Republican governors — including Greg Abbott of Texas and Ron DeSantis of Florida — scrambling desperately to contain new outbreaks cannot.

-snip-




Of course Trump never cared about the Republican Party, or any other party. He just views political parties, like individuals and situations, in terms of how much he can exploit them. And he knew he could exploit the Republicans, easily, after they fell for his birther idiocy.

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Tribe: It's as if Trump's determined to destroy the entire country. "If you won't love me, then F-U" (Original Post) highplainsdem Jun 2020 OP
That's what I've thought for quite some time. 2naSalit Jun 2020 #1
This is how I see it too Mike 03 Jun 2020 #2
Agreed. 2naSalit Jun 2020 #4
I don't think any of the really wealthy can get real sick from it or die, at least none yet. LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #19
Ditto! Newest Reality Jun 2020 #8
Just as Adolf Hitler did to Germany. lastlib Jun 2020 #27
Hitler felt the same at the end - the German people had failed him & deserved annihilation (nt) FreepFryer Jun 2020 #3
Scorched-Earth military strategy aims to destroy anything useful to the enemy when retreating, sop Jun 2020 #5
Why Putin got trump in the whitehouse, he knew the outcome would be this beachbumbob Jun 2020 #6
He dreams of this: Marcuse Jun 2020 #18
I think he went in to do it. Jamastiene Jun 2020 #7
I don't think he has the good sense to see all the destruction. chriscan64 Jun 2020 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author geralmar Jun 2020 #11
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2020 #10
Professor Tribe's piece is not punditry bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #12
Now you're catching on! Since GWB, at least, it's been scortched Earth for the GOP ffr Jun 2020 #13
Mental disorder, self destructive. gordianot Jun 2020 #14
And what did T____p promise these states to obfuscate COVID Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2020 #15
I've been saying this for a while. If he doesn't win, he'll burn it all down out of spite. tinrobot Jun 2020 #16
"Apres nous, le deluge" Marcuse Jun 2020 #17
trumps pattern has always been he gets his way or else he tries to hurt you, duforsure Jun 2020 #20
He'd nuke all of us and flee to Russia if he could SoonerPride Jun 2020 #21
He has a strange obsession with nuclear war, too, which I posted about a few years ago: highplainsdem Jun 2020 #31
Actually his goal from day one was to Roc2020 Jun 2020 #22
Plus now he faces serious legal problems should he lose. Ligyron Jun 2020 #29
And that added to his fear of losing even more Roc2020 Jun 2020 #30
Oh, absolutely. Ligyron Jun 2020 #32
The administration has been a revolt against democracy from Day One bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #23
That is what I have been thinking. avebury Jun 2020 #24
Banning & Miller have Trump's ear dlk Jun 2020 #25
From his first tweet as president and his first Oval Office meeting with the Russians. BarbD Jun 2020 #26
He's going full-on gotterdammerung not fooled Jun 2020 #28

2naSalit

(86,567 posts)
1. That's what I've thought for quite some time.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:12 AM
Jun 2020

And knew that after the impeachment he would do his best to destroy us for not adoring him.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
2. This is how I see it too
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:19 AM
Jun 2020

It's also how he's rationalized allowing the pandemic to run amok. In his mind, we all deserve to be punished for not appreciating that he is a "great president, as great as or greater than Lincoln." It's part of a pattern of vengeance that is a core characteristic of his very being.

It's also an extension of his promised revenge against Impeachment.

He fails, and then he justifies his failures retroactively as "successes."

2naSalit

(86,567 posts)
4. Agreed.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:21 AM
Jun 2020

I hope he gets it. I wouldn't want to wish it on anyone but those who responsible for letting it spread should be subjected to it too.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
19. I don't think any of the really wealthy can get real sick from it or die, at least none yet.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:53 AM
Jun 2020

But if his goal is to clear out some of the worker bees, who will serve him his meals and wipe his ass.

lastlib

(23,216 posts)
27. Just as Adolf Hitler did to Germany.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jun 2020

I wonder if he has a pistol and cyanide capsule ready for Nov.4th.........?

sop

(10,162 posts)
5. Scorched-Earth military strategy aims to destroy anything useful to the enemy when retreating,
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:21 AM
Jun 2020

and Trump will see America as the enemy when he's defeated. Like a cornered rat, this vindictive psychopath is capable of anything.

Jamastiene

(38,187 posts)
7. I think he went in to do it.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:35 AM
Jun 2020

I don't think he is doing it now only. I think he went in determined to do it. Everything he has done has worked to destroy the country. It is probably why he sees himself as successful. His goal was that in the first place, imo.

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
9. I don't think he has the good sense to see all the destruction.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:57 AM
Jun 2020

The only thoughts in his head are "I'm great" and "How do I attack or wish away anyone who thinks I'm not". He does not have the capacity to plan destruction. The "as if" part of this is key.

Response to chriscan64 (Reply #9)

bucolic_frolic

(43,137 posts)
12. Professor Tribe's piece is not punditry
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:20 AM
Jun 2020

It's a warning.

America is being raped. Did you expect anything different?

ffr

(22,669 posts)
13. Now you're catching on! Since GWB, at least, it's been scortched Earth for the GOP
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:25 AM
Jun 2020

They're in it for themselves, not for America.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. And what did T____p promise these states to obfuscate COVID
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:29 AM
Jun 2020

Stats and reopen early?

Federal $$ for projects? Guarantee of re-election assistance and endorsement?

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
16. I've been saying this for a while. If he doesn't win, he'll burn it all down out of spite.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:35 AM
Jun 2020

Totally fits his personality and need for revenge.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
20. trumps pattern has always been he gets his way or else he tries to hurt you,
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jun 2020

And I expect he'll use anyway he can to do just that when he's rejected with a embarrassing loss, and his revenge could be to do things to tank the markets, and things to hurt people with abuse of his powers. He will also blame the Republicans , which he really isn't a conservative republican, he a racist fascist, so he then will do things to hurt them with too. Republicans are close to turning on him too after his damming tweets and statements are dragging them down now also. The virus is kicking his ass now, and he can't normalize all the deaths he's help cause, and is continuing to cause. trump is having trouble lying his way out of it all now, and its catching up to him.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
21. He'd nuke all of us and flee to Russia if he could
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 11:31 AM
Jun 2020

He despises anyone who doesn't worship him.

And he is a vengeful sociopath.

That's not a good combination.

Roc2020

(1,615 posts)
22. Actually his goal from day one was to
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jun 2020

get re-elected. That's the only way his legacy could come close to Obama. The problem is he focused so hard on that goal he could not govern because everything was about him. Now he does not care.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
29. Plus now he faces serious legal problems should he lose.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:17 PM
Jun 2020

He'd always have the Civil suits to worry about but serious state and possible Federal charges for him and his family will drop like a ton of bricks on him right after Biden's inauguration, as we all know.

Roc2020

(1,615 posts)
30. And that added to his fear of losing even more
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:31 PM
Jun 2020

I always thought apart from his brother dying of alcoholism, Trump winning the Presidency was the worse thing to happen to him his friends and his family. Now it's a fact.

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
32. Oh, absolutely.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:26 PM
Jun 2020

We all saw his face election night and it reeked of fear.

He's doing his best to just make tons of money on this gig but if he loses, the GOP, who usually look out for their own, won't help him afterward like they usually would I don't imagine. He's insulted and pissed off so many, especially those who were once in his administration, they'd probably love to see him jailed.

If there's any justice he will be.

bucolic_frolic

(43,137 posts)
23. The administration has been a revolt against democracy from Day One
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jun 2020

Fascist Nazi grab of power and privilege for elites who hate taxes to provide government. He's torn the New Deal to shreds, everything Obama. It's snide birtherism morphed into deconstruction. Yeah maybe that's more truth than it appears. After the Civil War we had Reconstruction. This is Deconstruction.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
24. That is what I have been thinking.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 11:53 AM
Jun 2020

He isn't just going to take down the Rethug party but the entire country as well.

BarbD

(1,192 posts)
26. From his first tweet as president and his first Oval Office meeting with the Russians.
Fri Jun 26, 2020, 12:04 PM
Jun 2020

he has shown himself as a mob boss only interested in power and money.

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