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Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:19 AM

Why Is Trump So Enthusiastic About Americans Dying?



What is it about right-wing leaders embracing death by pandemic? If Trump was the only leader in the world doing this, it might make it easier to figure out. But wealthy oligarchs who have taken over countries around the world are doing the same thing.

by Thom Hartmann
CommonDreams, June 25, 2020

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Why did he spend two months denying the obvious fact that this virus was coming to the United States and was deadly, leaving us utterly unprepared?

Why does he refuse to set a good example for Americans by wearing a face mask? Is he more concerned about smearing his makeup than the death of 200,000 Americans?

Why did he order his goons to intercept shipments of personal protective equipment and ventilators going to blue states? Where is all that equipment that he hijacked, and does he plan to offer it exclusively to red state governors? Is all this death just about politics?

Why is he shutting down testing sites in multiple states next week after bragging in his Tulsa rally that he told his people to “slow down“ the testing?

Is it possible he’s trying to let things get so bad that a vaccine in the fall will be seen as an effective October Surprise? Is that why the vaccine companies have gotten billions of federal dollars in what Trump calls “Operation Warp Speed” while rural hospitals across the country continue to close?

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https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020/06/25/why-trump-so-enthusiastic-about-americans-dying

I think the fascists and oligarchs want to get rid of us because the Spaceship Earth they’ve despoiled is running out of air, water, food and all the rest they now want to hoard. What do you think?

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:22 AM

1. "Why Is Trump So Enthusiastic About Americans Dying?"

Because he is a very sick man and these deaths are what he and his boss, Vlad Daddy wants.

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Response to Botany (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:08 AM

8. Putin must hate America.

Must be in the KGB job description.


SAS spy's memoir claims he 'probably saved Gorbachev's life'

Pilgrim Spy – published under pseudonym Tom Shore – also claims a ‘third generation’ Baader-Meinhof gang came close to halting the fall of the Berlin Wall


by Alison Flood
The Guardian, Sept. 8, 2018

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Another twist in Shore’s story is his time with Vladimir Putin, then head of the KGB in Saxony, who was involved in the Soviet drive to halt reform.

“At the time he was a major. Admittedly he was the head of the KGB in Saxony but he was an unknown,” said Shore. “His presence at the rallies and other locations just confirmed the Russians and East German authorities were doing their best to stamp out the freedom movement. There was no hint that one day he might become the most powerful and dangerous man on the planet. My personal paranoia grew, which it does when you’re working alone and undercover – he quickly became an itch I couldn’t scratch. He was just always there.”

According to Shore, two of the men involved in the plot to assassinate Gorbachev are still active and on Germany’s most wanted list.

The former soldier says that he is “proud to have played a small part in the liberation of a nation”, but adds that “the events leading up to and immediately after the fall of the Berlin Wall changed me for the worse and for ever”.

“The things I saw, the decisions I made, the actions I was forced to take at the time, turned me into a person that I struggle to live with, even today. For many years, these events totally destroyed my faith in human nature, reducing any notions of friendship to nothing more than a hollow gesture,” he writes.

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/sep/08/sas-spy-memoir-claims-he-probably-saved-gorbachev-life-pilgrim-spy-tom-shore



And Trump listens to him over his own Intelligence Community.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:23 AM

2. I agree with your last statement/question

All fascists could give less than a damn about anyone, even their own past being useful tools to further their power, violence and hate. Trump is following the fascist handbook down to the letter

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Response to llashram (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:17 AM

9. The Handbook

Ivana tried to tell us, but her accountant must’ve won the argument.



Donald Trump and Hitler’s Speeches – My New Order

Posted on January 31st, 2020 | majorityrules.org

The following quote is taken from an article in Vanity Fair written in Sept. 1990 by Marie Brenner. The article is entitled After the Gold Rush. Trump is not known to be a reader. Yet it appears that Trump had one book he liked. Trump was fascinated with Hitler and his propaganda speeches. The book was the sequel to Meim Kampf entitled My New Order.

“Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist.

“Did your cousin John give you the Hitler speeches?” I asked Trump.

Trump hesitated. “Who told you that?”

“I don’t remember,” I said.

“Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.” (“I did give him a book about Hitler,” Marty Davis said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”)

Later, Trump returned to this subject. “If I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them.”

Is Ivana trying to convince her friends and lawyer that Trump is a crypto-Nazi? Trump is no reader or history buff. Perhaps his possession of Hitler’s speeches merely indicates an interest in Hitler’s genius at propaganda. The Führer often described his defeats at Stalingrad and in North Africa as great victories. Trump continues to endow his diminishing world with significance as well. “There’s nobody that has the cash flow that I have,” he told The Wall Street Journal long after he knew better. “I want to be king of cash.”


Source w/ links: http://www.majorityrules.org/2020/01/donald-trump-and-hitlers-speeches-my-new-order.html



Thank you for growing, llashram! The only way to rid the nation of vermin is with sunlight and direct action, like the liberal application of bleach.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #9)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 02:33 PM

14. lots and lots of bleach

I heard the Mein Kampf story early in his campaign. I was not surprised. Yet I truly thought he could never become a POTUS. Well...the rest will be history one day of his defeat while hiding in his bunker.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:26 AM

3. I believe there's a lot of truth in your comment, but as to Trump

in particular, he's convinced himself that Americans deserve to be punished for not appreciating that he's a "great president, as good as or greater than Lincoln." He failed, and we responded by despising him, so now he's re-justified his failure as a success in that it's accomplishing his unconscious desire to punish people who withhold adulation, and that's most Americans at this point. He's extremely sick, and we're paying for it. A nobody has the guts to stop him.

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Response to Mike 03 (Reply #3)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:42 AM

10. Amazing how quickly Flynn went from guilty to non-cooperative post Sessions.

Acting AG Whittaker the Toilet Giant plunged a path.

William Barr plopped down to save the Urinary Executive.

And Jeffrey Epstein (a college drop-out who daddy Donald Barr hired to teach at an exclusive private prep academy) got flushed down the Memory Hole.



Demented Donnie is so sick he thinks even those who support him are likewise nuts and so deserve to be hated. He’ll try to take us all down with him.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:27 AM

4. He is enjoying the spectacle


of suffering and death

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #4)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:50 AM

12. It is a sick thing. Even Pence noticed...

On Trump arguing before SCROTUS that Obamacare must “fall”:

In a speech on the lawsuit Thursday, Vice President Pence said he was proud of the ACA and denounced the administration's position. "It's cruel, it's heartless, and it's callous," he said.

Source: https://www.npr.org/2020/06/26/883819835/obamacare-must-fall-trump-administration-tells-supreme-court

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:27 AM

5. For tRUMP wreaking havoc and committing murder are his naturally assumed executive powers.

Of course that's a very poor strategy for being re-elected to a position he was never elected to and we're seeing the push-back to that.

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Response to abqtommy (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 11:01 AM

13. First it was, "I don't kid." Then, "It was sarcasm."



“Sometimes I jokingly say, or sarcastically say, if we didn’t do tests we would look great,” Trump said in an interview and Fox News town hall with Sean Hannity. “But you know what? It’s not the right thing to do.”

Source: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/25/trump-sarcastically-suggests-slowing-down-coronavirus-testing-340850



I, too, appreciate he’s an Unstable Moron. Otherwise, the authoritarian strongman schtick could get more traction in a time of Putin, McConnell & Barr.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:35 AM

6. As far as not wearing the mask, I believe Trump wants to project the image that not only is he

omniscient, but he's invincible against the Virus. It makes him more god-like for his supplicants.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 06:09 PM

15. It's so Fascist!

Oops, they did it again: Trump's refusal to wear a mask as a signal to fascism

Trump's refusal to wear a mask isn't just vanity — it's also a fascist rejection of the duty to protect others


AMANDA MARCOTTE
Salon.com, MAY 8, 2020 5:02PM (UTC)

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But Trump and his most ardent supporters seem almost physically repulsed at the very idea of wearing a mask. One Republican Ohio state legislator even claimed that since "we are all created in the image and likeness of God," covering the face with a mask is an affront to God's creation. (Many have noted that this same argument could be made against the practice of wearing pants.)

Ultimately, the rejection of mask-wearing really goes back to the fact that Trump, Ingraham and their most faithful followers are guided by fascist impulse, even when they don't or can't articulate a fully fleshed-out fascist ideology. Above all other things, the fascist personality is one that rejects even the possibility of sickness. To wear a mask is to publicly admit that one's body is suspectible to illness, which is coded as "weak" and therefore unacceptable.

Natascha Strobl, an Austrian political scientist who is an expert in far-right organizing and rhetoric, had an important English-language Twitter thread in early April about why the far right was embracing the view that the coronavirus should simply be allowed to run wild. From the beginning, this has been the view Trump clearly prefers on an emotional level and has pushed federal policy toward all along. While Strobl didn't mention masks, her observations also help explain why these same folks are repulsed by mask-wearing.

The fascist narrative, Strobl explained, is that "men aren't men anymore, but nervous, urban, overly intellectualized and (here it comes) sickly weaklings.

"Weakness is never worthy of protection and has to be cast out. This is fascism," she continues. The fascist believes that those viewed as "weak" have an obligation to die "without protest for the greater good" and that if "they don't do it, they are weak and the weak drag everyone else down and therefore must be done away with."

To wear a mask, in other words, indicates a belief that your personal body can become infected. A fascist-minded person like Trump cannot admit such a thing, either because he genuinely believes he is too strong to be affected by the virus or because he fears looking weak in public. Just as important, wearing a mask indicates care and concern for others, especially those who are high-risk. But the fascist-minded person doesn't want to protect those viewed as "weak" — in fact, those people are expected to die so as not to be a burden on others. As Strobl points out, the far right believes that by becoming seriously ill or dying in service to some warped conception of the greater good, the "weak" can prove themselves strong through their sacrifice.

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https://www.salon.com/2020/05/08/oops-they-did-it-again-trumps-refusal-to-wear-a-mask-as-a-signal-to-fascism/

Kipling’s The Man Who Would Be King describes what came to such who thought themselves superior to their fellow human beings. Great film with Caine and Connery, too.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:45 AM

7. "Contracting COVID-19 is for loosers."

"The sick, elderly and frail are expendable. They were never going to vote for me anyway and they are a drag on society. This just thins the herd."

My take on Trump's inner dialougue or REAL conversations he has had. BTW, "sick, elderly and frail" = people of color, fat and lazy freeloaders taking disability.

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Response to NCDem47 (Reply #7)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 06:21 PM

16. Winners are all set to keep winning.

The Really Creepy People Behind the Libertarian-Inspired Billionaire Sea Castles

Written by Mark Ames / AlterNet June 2, 2010

What happens when Americans plunder America and leave it broken, destitute and seething mad? Where do these fabulously wealthy Americans go with their loot, if America isn’t a safe, secure, or even desirable place to spend their riches? What if they lose faith in their gated communities, because those plush gated communities are surrounded by millions of pissed-off Americans stripped of their entitlements, and who now want in?

We finally have the answer, and you’re not going to like it: a new fleet of castles that float in the oceans. The super-wealthy are already building their first floating castle, a billion-dollar-plus luxury liner that offers permanent multimillion-dollar housing with the best protection of all: moats made of oceans, keeping the land-based Americans they’ve plundered at a safe distance.

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Both Thiel and Milton Friedman’s grandson see democracy as the enemy–last year, Thiel wrote "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible" at about the same time that Milton Friedman’s grandson proclaimed, "Democracy is not the answer." Both published their anti-democracy proclamations in the same billionaire-Koch-family-funded outlet, Cato Unbound, one of the oldest billionaire-fed libertarian welfare dispensaries. Friedman’s answer for Thiel’s democracy problem is to build offshore libertarian pod-fortresses where the libertarian way rules. It’s probably better for everyone if Milton Friedman’s grandson and Peter Thiel leave us forever for their libertarian ocean lair–Thiel believes that America went down the tubes ever since it gave women the right to vote, and he was outed as the sponsor of accused felon James O’Keefe’s smear videos that brought ACORN to ruin.

Both Thiel and Milton Friedman’s grandson see democracy as the enemy–last year, Thiel wrote "I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible" at about the same time that Milton Friedman’s grandson proclaimed, "Democracy is not the answer." Both published their anti-democracy proclamations in the same billionaire-Koch-family-funded outlet, Cato Unbound, one of the oldest billionaire-fed libertarian welfare dispensaries. Friedman’s answer for Thiel’s democracy problem is to build offshore libertarian pod-fortresses where the libertarian way rules. It’s probably better for everyone if Milton Friedman’s grandson and Peter Thiel leave us forever for their libertarian ocean lair–Thiel believes that America went down the tubes ever since it gave women the right to vote, and he was outed as the sponsor of accused felon James O’Keefe’s smear videos that brought ACORN to ruin.

While Thiel and Friedman are busy cooking up their libertarian dystopia, the Frontier Group investment firm — an offshoot of the Carlyle Group — has already entered the realization phase with the Utopia floating castle. Frontier Group, was founded by some of the same big names from the notorious Carlyle Group–the private equity firm that brought together right-wing oligarchs like George H. W. Bush and other top American officials with their billionaire pals in Saudi Arabia like the Bin Laden family, who together raked in enormous profits thanks to the War on Terror that their kids Dubya and Osama launched.

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https://www.alternet.org/2010/06/the_really_creepy_people_behind_the_libertarian-inspired_billionaire_sea_castles/

Thank you for sharing, NCDem47. They have a plan to survive, of course at the expense of the Constitution, We the People, and Democracy.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 10:46 AM

11. He has to promote as good that over 120.000+ plus dying is from him doing a great job,

And failing miserably. He just can't spin deaths he caused as being good in anyone's universe. People have heard him lie so much its now not working like it did for him before. The truth is exposing his propaganda , and why its not working as good for him now. The American people aren't believing him now , and walking away instead.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #11)

Sat Jun 27, 2020, 06:39 PM

17. Once exposed, the reality can never be forgotten.

“We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China, and we have it under control. It’s going to be just fine.”

— President Trump, in an interview with CNBC, was asked about the first diagnosed U.S. case. He said he wasn’t worried about a pandemic.


“LIBERATE MICHIGAN!”

— Trump tweets “liberate” about Michigan and two other states with Democratic governors, seemingly offering support to protesters crowding capitals who are opposed to states’ restrictions and closures.


"When you do testing to that extent, you're going to find more people, you're going to find more cases. So I said to my people, slow the testing down, please."

— President Trump, June 23, 2020, in a campaign rally at the Bank of Oklahoma Center in Tulsa, Oklahoma.


“Without me, it woulda been a lot worse. Two to four. Million. Dead.”

— Heinous Anus, paraphrased by me the other day, because NAZIs don’t deserve respect.

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