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Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:14 PM

Has anyone else here ever experienced this from a right-winger?

Ever get a right- winger that thinks they're so smart when they point out the U.S is a republic?

It usually comes up when a Democrat or liberal says something about "our democracy". I hear callers to my local radio station complaining that "libtards" don't know we are under a republic.

If you ever want to stop one of these geniuses in their tracks, see what happens when you inform them that China and North Korea are also republics. And, just for fun I like to throw in the fact that the "R" in U.S.S.R stood for republic also. See the expression on their face go blank.

This has happened to me several times, and so far I have found not one of them that are aware of this fact. It seems to be something they parrot without giving thought to.

If you're lucky you might be able to to explain to them how "democracy" fits in here in America where it doesn't in those other republics. That is if you can get them to listen instead of just blurting out their talking points. Good luck out there.

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Reply Has anyone else here ever experienced this from a right-winger? (Original post)
Ohioboy Jun 2020 OP
dawg day Jun 2020 #1
Ohioboy Jun 2020 #6
rsdsharp Jun 2020 #16
Aristus Jun 2020 #18
unc70 Jun 2020 #2
rsdsharp Jun 2020 #15
Ohioboy Jun 2020 #22
VOX Jun 2020 #21
safeinOhio Jun 2020 #3
A HERETIC I AM Jun 2020 #4
The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #5
Ohioboy Jun 2020 #8
Cirque du So-What Jun 2020 #7
Ohioboy Jun 2020 #9
coti Jun 2020 #10
Happy Hoosier Jun 2020 #11
blm Jun 2020 #12
Ohioboy Jun 2020 #13
blm Jun 2020 #14
Aristus Jun 2020 #17
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #19
hunter Jun 2020 #20

Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:18 PM

1. It's one of those "I'm smart" stupid things.

Along the lines of, "Hey, hot dogs aren't hot. AND THEY AREN'T DOGS!"

What is it that they think a republic is that means something important that we don't get? We get that we elect officials who then determine the laws and enact them. We get that. So?

I get the idea they all slept through government class, like Trump. "And, ha ha, Lincoln was a Republican. Betcha didn't know THAT!"

Oh, now I get it. "the US is a republic" in their minds means Republicans have to rule then? It's not a democracy in their understanding so Democrats have to go die?

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Response to dawg day (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:25 PM

6. They use it as a "gotcha" for some reason

They don't seem to know that democracy plays a big part in republics that work well. They seem too willing to throw out the democracy part and just go with republic, as is the case in the bad republics of the world.

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Response to dawg day (Reply #1)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:59 PM

16. Yeah! We pledge allegiance to "the Republic

for which it stands. It doesn’t say Democrat. Nuff said!

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Response to rsdsharp (Reply #16)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 06:07 PM

18. Has anybody seen the pic of that guy?

His hilariously misspelled sign is cover for a pretty sad truth that the poor guy just isn't very bright, repeats the things he hears after sifting out the things he doesn't like. And his life is probably sad and unfulfilled because he doesn't have enough human intelligence to be able to think through the problems in his life. He is probably, as Stephen King so aptly put it: "A person for whom life is nothing more than a moment-by-moment flow of sensory input."

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:19 PM

2. Even better, North Korea

Democratic People's Republic of Korea

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Response to unc70 (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 05:56 PM

15. Or East Germany.

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The German Democratic Republic.

I like to bring both of those up when some yahoo tells me the Nazis were socialists: “It’s right there in the name. National SOCIALISM!”

Either that or ask for a 5000 word essay on the Night of the Long Knives, and it’s affect on the socialist wing of the party.

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Response to rsdsharp (Reply #15)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 09:40 PM

22. Yea, not knowing the difference between National Socialism and Socialism is another one

As you indicate, many of Hitler's first victims were Socialists.

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Response to unc70 (Reply #2)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 07:30 PM

21. Remember Saddam's "Elite Republican Guard"?

I expect they all voted for GWB in 2004.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:20 PM

3. Yes and he even agreed with my answer.

He made that statement that this is a Republic and not a Democracy.
I replied.
There are only two types of Republics, 1, is a Democratic Republic as we have and 2, a Banana Republic.

He looked down and said I was correct.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:21 PM

4. I've often seen that used when the question of the Electoral College is mentioned....

Or minority rule is discussed.

As if that is a real defense. Not sure where it came from, but I have an idea. Ask one of these types why in the Senate, 40% of the people have 60% of the votes and that is often the answer.

“Because we’re a Republic”.

Yeah, right up to the point where things stop going your way.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:21 PM

5. I don't engage with right-wingers at all. I don't have any friends or relatives

any more who are overtly RW, so I haven't had the "pleasure" of trying to argue with people who are so hopelessly stupid.

Should the issue ever come up, though, I'd just point out that "republic" is a government structure and "democracy" is a philosophy of government by the citizens. Those things are not mutually exclusive. Britain, Denmark, Sweden and Norway are monarchies instead of republics, but they are also democracies.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #5)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:29 PM

8. Your answers, if it ever comes up, would be good.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:26 PM

7. I point out that the full description is democratic republic

Shit-fer-brains.

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Response to Cirque du So-What (Reply #7)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:30 PM

9. Yes, good point

Quick easy and accurate.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:31 PM

10. For them, it goes to the parties- "Democrats" and "Republicans"

They can't stand that Dems have an homophonal connection to the word "democracy." So they attack the word "democracy."

Yes, their hangup is just that fucking stupid.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:33 PM

11. I always ask...

What they think Republic is, and why they think a republic cannot be democratic.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:33 PM

12. Yes, a republic and founders chose democracy to make it FUNCTIONABLE.

Saying a chassis is a car ain’t gonna get you anywhere.

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Response to blm (Reply #12)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:36 PM

13. Good one



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Response to Ohioboy (Reply #13)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 04:39 PM

14. Yep. That always shuts the dumbasses up really fast.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 06:03 PM

17. I tell them we're a democratic republic.

They do that because they want to believe there's some relevance in the name of their party. The truth is, the name of neither party has any intrinsic meaning. They just have names because political parties need names.



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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 06:44 PM

19. It's the ultimate irony, that name Republican...

while at their core they want a plutocracy.

And when they hold the presidency, they want a federal autocracy.

I think we're supposed to be a democratic federal republic.

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Response to Ohioboy (Original post)

Fri Jun 26, 2020, 06:55 PM

20. The U.S.A. has always been the Top Banana of the Banana Republics.

We're Number One!


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