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[onecaliberal]

1. How does anyone recover from that? It's not okay. This bullshit needs to stop.

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[mysteryowl]

4. Agreed!

[onetexan]

2. A call about a black man with a gun. How many of those damn RW gun nuts openly carrying guns at

Rallies, yet noone called the cops on them? This makes my blood boil that they put this poor young many under such trauma.

[mysteryowl]

5. Exactly, AND, what if he happened to have had a legal gun?

Would he be alive today?

It is legal to have a gun.

[rusty quoin]

11. Yeah, that is so obvious it's absurd.

[Hekate]

3. We should ALL be scared spitless by this 12:1 assault. By now I believe that's how cops ...

...WANT us to feel, and by "us" I mean white and black and brown. The cops escalated on this poor guy because he "matched a description"? What -- a generic black guy in a generic car? Then when they let him go, and you civilians questioned them, they escalated all over again until you got frightened for your own safety and backed away.

Yeah, I think his civil rights were violated. Yours too.

[mysteryowl]

7. Thanks for reading my story and thanks for your comments

You read it carefully and understood what happened. The 12:1 with assault rifles! I don't think Bonnie and Clyde were taken down by that many and they had fully automatic machine guns.

[tblue37]

6. K&R for visibility. nt

[MustLoveBeagles]

8. What a scary situation

[Demovictory9]

9. K&r

[SunSeeker]

10. That poor man's incredible self control in staying calm probably saved his life.

Wish the cops had the same self control. This is so fucked up.

[rusty quoin]

12. BLM are not the problem. Cops are the problem.

[uponit7771]

22. +1, ... and its not just a couple of bad apples its the whole cop culture that accepts bad apples

[BComplex]

31. That's the problem I have with the whole thing. It's the entire cop culture, that comes from

many many years of not being held accountable BECAUSE THE LAW SAYS YOU'RE ABOVE THE LAW. There should never be even one individual in this country that is above the law. Especially not a bunch of guys with guns and temper issues.

[PandoraAwakened]

32. Bad apples spoil the bunch...

Funny how every time enablers of criminal cops step up to the mic to bleat out their disingenuous "bad apple" excuses, they fail to finish the analogy: Bad apples spoil the bunch.

Funny too that, having recognized bad apples exist, police chiefs seem utterly incapable of sticking their hands in the barrel, plucking them out, and throwing them in the trash where they belong.

[NJCher]

13. There's something wrong with today's cops

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They work themselves up...in this situation, twice. As a society we have a big problem on our hands and the sooner we divest ourselves of these hypermilitarized psychotics the better. I was pleased to see that Newark did or is preparing to do so.

Thank Dog you expressed your support to him. I am sure it meant a great deal.

I would go tell this story to the town council.

[Grasswire2]

15. steroids perhaps? nt

[NJCher]

28. that is one theory

I may do some research on it and post it later.

Also, I wanted to add that I have a criminal justice professor friend. She said the quality of incoming students has fallen quite a bit and that the ones who want to be police are not very smart.

In my mind, it adds up to wanting to be a police person for the wrong reasons, such as power and control.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

17. Militarized and Republicanized.

That's all.........

[sop]

14. A "black man with a gun" has different second amendment rights than a white men with a gun.

Senator Kelly Loeffler (R-Ga), a champion of the Second Amendment and co-sponsor of bills expanding the rights of citizens to both conceal and open carry firearms, said during an interview with Fox News that black Americans in Atlanta openly carrying guns while protesting the death of Rayshard Brooks were an example of "mob rule." Cops seem to share the same view.

[misanthrope]

19. Philando Castile could tell you all about it

if he had not been shot to death for carrying a lawfully licensed weapon. I still haven't heard anything from the NRA taking up for his violated rights.

[malaise]

21. THIS

The 2nd Amendment is only for white people but the US is not racist to the core - and you'll never hear the NRA speak out on ths reality

[uponit7771]

23. +1, 2nd amendments is a whites only law in practice

[totodeinhere]

16. If this really happened the way you described it then you should make a public records request for

the police report on this incident.

[mysteryowl]

29. Thank you for the suggestion

I will be talking with my mayor and councilmember today. We can get the report for sure and bodycam footage if need be.
Ironically, last week was our first city meeting on police reform!

[KY_EnviroGuy]

18. Thanks for sharing. That's terrorizing a neighborhood.

These days, when the word gun is mentioned in a trouble call, they go into a military response mode that's been drilled into their brains via some new right-wing training systems and it's especially bad post-9/11. They need to be de-programmed or replaced.

I hope you can share that story both to your local press and with your city council to insure it goes on record and also hope those recording it on their phones saved the videos.

KY

[Tipperary]

20. Did you film it?

Sounds scary.

[Iggo]

24. Demilitarize the police.

[marie999]

25. Every time we see a white man with a weapon we should call 911 and say that there is a white man

with a weapon terrorizing our white family. He seems to be talking to himself. Give a good description. See how many times the cops show up. If they don't, keep having people call 911 on him.

[MineralMan]

26. For the police, a report of a "black man with a gun"

means that every black man looks like the suspect to the cops. That's the problem in a nutshell. They don't recognize people of color as individuals at all. So, they stop the first black man they see and go into full cop mode.

[SamKnause]

27. But we need more cops ???

12 cops.

8 cop cars.

Proof they are cowards and we need less, not more cops.

[Wawannabe]

30. Needs kicked

Can happen to anyone. Has happened to my sis who is white. But they sure didnt treat her this way and the person they had been looking for was an armed robber.
Of, course once they saw female driver I think the situation Deescalated. But they still pulled her out of her vehicle to make sure that the robber was not in there.
She said it was extremely traumatic because it was all at once and the cops shout their “orders” and may or may not wait for compliance.
This young man was very brave to be so calm in the face of so many guns. My heart goes out to him.