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babylonsister

(171,036 posts)
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 06:49 AM Jun 2020

Chuck Grassley openly begs WH officials to stage intervention with Trump -- or else face defeat

Specifically, he suggests someone read the editorial to iq45.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/chuck-grassley-openly-begs-white-house-officials-to-stage-intervention-with-trump-or-else-face-defeat/

Chuck Grassley openly begs White House officials to stage intervention with Trump — or else face defeat
Published 18 hours ago
on June 26, 2020
By Brad Reed


Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-IA) on Friday openly pleaded with White House officials to stage an intervention with President Donald Trump and make clear to him that he is going to lose badly unless he changes course.

Writing on Twitter, Grassley urged White House officials to make Trump read a Wall Street Journal editorial that warned the president is on track to face a “historic repudiation” at the ballot box.

“Will somebody with access to the Oval Office read the WSJ editorial ‘The Trump Referendum’ to President Trump,” Grassley wrote. “We won’t have more good SCOTUS justices or the best economy in 50 years like we have had if he doesn’t follow that advice.”


The editorial in question argued that Trump had done little to present a vision for what his next four years in office will look like, while also criticizing the president for instead campaigning on petty grievances.

“Mr. Trump’s base of 35 percent or so will never leave, but the swing voters who stood by him for three and half years has fallen away in the last two months,” the editorial stated. “This includes suburban women, independents, and seniors who took a risk on him in 2016 as an outsider who would shake things up. Now millions of Americans are close to deciding that four more years are more risk than they can stand.”
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Chuck Grassley openly begs WH officials to stage intervention with Trump -- or else face defeat (Original Post) babylonsister Jun 2020 OP
Chuckle, you want an intervention because you got SharonClark Jun 2020 #1
3022!!!! PCIntern Jun 2020 #4
"Somebody, please, read it to him." Laelth Jun 2020 #2
Yes, I read that as an admission that Grassley and kin know that Trump is goofy. Midnight Writer Jun 2020 #45
"Best economy in 50 years"? Yeah, right, Chuck. Keep kissing Trump's ass. n/t blitzen Jun 2020 #3
Grassley didn't mention trump stole Cha Jun 2020 #6
Minimum of 1 million people filing for UE every week for 14 straight weeks .. . hatrack Jun 2020 #7
Recalls the dancing raisins singing "heard it through the grapevine" commercial of the last ice age. jaxexpat Jun 2020 #21
And with all that unemployment hitting the states, republicans refuse to continue BComplex Jun 2020 #51
I'm old enough to remember PatSeg Jun 2020 #20
Is that really how he said it? Southerntier Jun 2020 #24
he was referring to OBAMA'S economy Skittles Jun 2020 #52
Cue the Violins! Cha Jun 2020 #5
"MORE" good Supreme Court Justices? Like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh? DFW Jun 2020 #8
fuck chuck spanone Jun 2020 #9
They had the opportunity to support America woodsprite Jun 2020 #10
Sorry Chuck mnmoderatedem Jun 2020 #11
Do you really believe Trump is capable of changing his course, Chuck? tanyev Jun 2020 #12
Geezus.. what we won't have is a rich oligarchy.. ananda Jun 2020 #13
Can't take his advice. safeinOhio Jun 2020 #14
Asking the Pierson's Puppeteers to mutiny against the Hindmost Xipe Totec Jun 2020 #15
Wishful thinking, Chuckie-boy... dixiechiken1 Jun 2020 #16
That's like asking a skunk to give up its stink glands Martin Eden Jun 2020 #17
Exactly! FM123 Jun 2020 #18
Thanks -- I didn't even realize I hit 10,000 !!! Martin Eden Jun 2020 #46
Fuck you Chuck you are part of the Trump cult. SamKnause Jun 2020 #19
You had a chance, and you blew it! edhopper Jun 2020 #22
Maybe someone should intervene with Grassley... NNadir Jun 2020 #23
Exactly. Pepsidog Jun 2020 #28
Covid spread is the nail in the coffin DIVINEprividence Jun 2020 #25
Read? chriscan64 Jun 2020 #26
The Republican Party should cease to exist. Pepsidog Jun 2020 #27
Chuckie thinks Trump will listen, care, and comprehend bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #29
Republicans are losers I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #30
He's not motivated by political issues. Renew Deal Jun 2020 #31
Chickenshit. Chucky, why not go read it to him yourself? KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2020 #32
If only we had had a chance to remove Trump from office a few months ago... Wounded Bear Jun 2020 #33
If only someone could have intervened in, say, February... JHB Jun 2020 #34
Shut up, Chuck. Let Trump be Trump. dalton99a Jun 2020 #35
So, don't intervene to save the country. zentrum Jun 2020 #36
Best economy for whom you piece of shit Grassley? It is the worst economy since the depression. Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #37
"Shake things up" wryter2000 Jun 2020 #38
The plaintive wail of Chuck Grassley- Go yell at the toilet, Charles, it will be more responsive. NBachers Jun 2020 #39
I was going to write something clever about Grassley being an overall failure, but the DU peeps Ninga Jun 2020 #40
Fuck you, Chuck. yardwork Jun 2020 #41
Welcome under the bus, Chuckles. Buns_of_Fire Jun 2020 #42
Translation:... jayfish Jun 2020 #43
Plaeeze!! Someone needs to slap Chuck upside the head, get him (&WSJ) copies of the ICD-10 and DSM-5 littlemissmartypants Jun 2020 #44
Not being realistic. LiberalFighter Jun 2020 #47
You fucking Senators had a chance and blew it off scarytomcat Jun 2020 #48
Grassley thinks he's being somehow woke... lame54 Jun 2020 #49
Hey Death Panel Chuck Grassley MagickMuffin Jun 2020 #50

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
1. Chuckle, you want an intervention because you got
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 06:59 AM
Jun 2020

caught supporting that sociopath. Too bad you’re not up for re-election until 3022.

PCIntern

(25,491 posts)
4. 3022!!!!
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:29 AM
Jun 2020

He must have that same shitty Doctor that Trump has who says he’ll live to 250 or something like that.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
2. "Somebody, please, read it to him."
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:09 AM
Jun 2020

Grassley, at least, is smart enough to know that Trump would never read it on his own—too lazy. Somebody has to read it to him.

-Laelth

hatrack

(59,578 posts)
7. Minimum of 1 million people filing for UE every week for 14 straight weeks .. .
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:41 AM
Jun 2020

Yeah, Chuckles, the economy is just cooking along, isn't it, you pathetic ambulatory prune?

jaxexpat

(6,804 posts)
21. Recalls the dancing raisins singing "heard it through the grapevine" commercial of the last ice age.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:40 AM
Jun 2020

a personal favorite. Ambulatory prune indeed! Oh mirror without guile or mercy.

BComplex

(8,019 posts)
51. And with all that unemployment hitting the states, republicans refuse to continue
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 06:53 PM
Jun 2020

with the extra unemployment supplement the care act provided. That money is critical to people eating food and staying in their homes.

PatSeg

(47,285 posts)
20. I'm old enough to remember
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:38 AM
Jun 2020

the 1990s and Trump's economy is not the best I've ever seen. Maybe the best for a few. Meanwhile, it was the economy Trump inherited from Obama and as we all know, everything Trump touches dies. There's nothing the man can't or won't destroy.

Southerntier

(8 posts)
24. Is that really how he said it?
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:10 AM
Jun 2020

Is he, like, 12 years old? Seriously - this is who the GOP keeps re-electing? Ugh

DFW

(54,302 posts)
8. "MORE" good Supreme Court Justices? Like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh?
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:41 AM
Jun 2020

In that case, Chuckie should be lauding the "good" virus currently going around............

woodsprite

(11,905 posts)
10. They had the opportunity to support America
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:49 AM
Jun 2020

They chose to keep their hands in the kitty and stand behind Trump. Now they have to pay for that at the polls.

mnmoderatedem

(3,722 posts)
11. Sorry Chuck
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:55 AM
Jun 2020

you're about 50 years too late for any sort of intervention of trump.

The monster was created long ago.

tanyev

(42,523 posts)
12. Do you really believe Trump is capable of changing his course, Chuck?
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:02 AM
Jun 2020

C'mon, Chuck. You've been in the middle of it for 3 1/2 years. You know better.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
16. Wishful thinking, Chuckie-boy...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:15 AM
Jun 2020

Trump is a malignant narcissist. He is incapable of "changing course". Oh sure, with the right drugs and a carefully crafted speech, he can sometimes sound as though he's changing his approach. But that's always temporary at best. It never lasts for more than a day or two. Then... THEN... he gets in front of a camera or a crowd, and he just can't help himself. Not won't - CAN'T.

On the upside, though, every last one of you, (except, to a certain degree, Mitt Romney), hitched yourselves to the Trump wagon. Your political fortunes rise and fall with his. Enjoy the ride on the way down. You earned it.

SamKnause

(13,088 posts)
19. Fuck you Chuck you are part of the Trump cult.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 08:29 AM
Jun 2020

Fuck Trump and all his cult followers.

The republican party is dead.

They are now the party of Trump.

The damage you and the Trump cult have foisted on this country

will last for decades.

I hope you are hated until the day you die.

NNadir

(33,477 posts)
23. Maybe someone should intervene with Grassley...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:07 AM
Jun 2020

...to let him know that 40 million Americans losing their jobs and hundreds of thousands dying because senile old bastards like him hate science is not a "great economy."

He's every bit as weak minded as the criminal he "acquitted" despite obvious and open corruption.

How a person of such low character and such a poor mind as Grassley is in a position of power is a mark of the absurdity of our times.

 

DIVINEprividence

(443 posts)
25. Covid spread is the nail in the coffin
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:11 AM
Jun 2020

Even if they do successfully reign Trump in all Biden has to do is push a few of his buttons and it will be Twitler meltdown city. Covid is raging like a wildfire and no spin can change that fact. The GOP are facing an epic landslide defeat. Serves them right. Karma, you gotta love it. Too bad we all had to pay such an awful price. All so unnecessary

chriscan64

(1,789 posts)
26. Read?
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:18 AM
Jun 2020

He doesn't have the patience or comprehension for a pop-up book. Having someone read it to him is just the spoken word version of the daily briefing books that have to be boiled down to bumper stickers or memes. By paragraph two, he would be like. "Why am I not the one talking?"

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,462 posts)
30. Republicans are losers
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:27 AM
Jun 2020

Wether they are in power or not. They're assholes by nature,and most people don't like assholes.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
32. Chickenshit. Chucky, why not go read it to him yourself?
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:34 AM
Jun 2020

Chucky is afraid of the White House bouncers...........

JHB

(37,157 posts)
34. If only someone could have intervened in, say, February...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:45 AM
Jun 2020

Oh, right. You could have, Chuck. But you didn't.

You were fine with him then, you can be fine with him now.

Or else stop whining to "somebody with access to the Oval Office" and start organizing your fellow Republican senators, starting with the Majority Leader, to commit to ITMF. Once about 90% publicly admit he should be removed from office, invite the House to send over new articles of impeachment, and you give McConnell something akin to "an offer he can't refuse" so that he won't block it, then Trump's gone in 48 hours.

But nobody else is going to do it for you, Chuckie. If you really want him gone you have to act.




From https://www.politico.com/interactives/2019/trump-impeachment-vote-count-senate-results/

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
36. So, don't intervene to save the country.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 09:51 AM
Jun 2020

Do it to save the GOP.

What a creep. He's just like the worst of them.

Plus he's not grammatical.

Ninga

(8,273 posts)
40. I was going to write something clever about Grassley being an overall failure, but the DU peeps
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:12 AM
Jun 2020

posting here have stolen all my material and beat me to the punch!

Buns_of_Fire

(17,158 posts)
42. Welcome under the bus, Chuckles.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 10:43 AM
Jun 2020

You'll like it there. It's a little cramped these days, but nice and cozy. And happy hour is from 11AM to 9PM daily, with two-for-one engine drippings for senators. Mind the tires...

littlemissmartypants

(22,599 posts)
44. Plaeeze!! Someone needs to slap Chuck upside the head, get him (&WSJ) copies of the ICD-10 and DSM-5
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jun 2020

and mark the pages for

Antisocial personality disorder
F60.2 (ICD-10)

and Antisocial Personality Disorder (Antisocial Personality Disorder DSM-5 301.7)



ICD-10-CM
F60.2
Clinical Information
A disorder characterized by a pervasive pattern of disregard for and violation of the rights of others that is manifested in childhood or early adolescence. (adapted from dsm-iv)
A personality disorder whose essential feature is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others that begins in childhood or early adolescence and continues into adulthood. The individual must be at least age 18 and must have a history of some symptoms of conduct disorder before age 15. (from dsm-iv, 1994)
Personality disorder characterized by conflict with others, low frustration tolerance, inadequate conscience development, and rejection of authority and discipline.
Personality disorder whose essential feature is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others through aggressive, antisocial behavior, without remorse or loyalty to anyone. Snip...

https://www.icd10data.com/ICD10CM/Codes/F01-F99/F60-F69/F60-/F60.2




DSM-5 301.7

APD (Antisocial Personality Disorder) is a DSM-5 (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, fifth edition), diagnosis assigned to individuals who habitually and pervasively disregard or violate the rights and considerations of others without remorse. People with Antisocial Personality Disorder may be habitual criminals, or engage in behavior which would be grounds for criminal arrest and prosecution, or they may engage in behaviors which skirt the edges of the law, or manipulate and hurt others in non-criminal ways which are widely regarded as unethical, immoral, irresponsible, or in violation of social norms and expectations. Those with APD often possess an impaired moral conscience and make decisions driven purely by their own desires without considering the needs or negative effects of their actions on others. Impulsive and criminal behavior is common. The terms psychopathy or sociopathy are also used, in some contexts synonymously, in others, sociopath is differentiated from a psychopath, in that a sociopathy is rooted in environmental causes, while psychopathy is genetically based.

The term antisocial may be confusing to the lay public, as the more common definition outside of clinical usage is an individual who is a loner or socially isolated. The literal meaning of the word antisocial can be more descriptive to both the lay public and professionals. To be anti-social is to be against society: against rules, norms, laws and acceptable behavior. Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder tend to be charismatic, attractive, and very good at obtaining sympathy from others; for example, describing themselves as the victim of injustice. Some studies suggest that the average intelligence of antisocials is higher than the norm. Antisocials possess a superficial charm, they can be thoughtful and cunning, and have an intuitive ability to rapidly observe and analyze others, determine their needs and preferences, and present it in a manner to facilitate manipulation and exploitation. They are able to harm and use other people in this manner, without remorse, guilt, shame or regret. It is widely stated that antisocials are without empathy, however this can be disputed, as sadistic antisocials will use empathy to experience their victim's suffering, and derive a fuller pleasure from it (Turvey, 1995). This is depicted in the classic work A Cask of Amontillado by Poe, as the main character entombs another man alive “...then I heard the furious vibrations of the chain. The noise lasted for several minutes, during which, that I might hearken to it with the more satisfaction, I ceased my labours and sat down upon the bones.” (Poe, 1846 ).* Some research also suggests that sociopaths and psychopaths do have degrees of empathy, but with an innate ability to switch it off at will. (Meffer, Gazzola, den Boer, Bartells, 2013). This connection to empathy may give hope to future successful treatment as it suggests individuals with APD may be trained.

Symptoms & Criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder
According to the DSM-5, there are four diagnostic criterion, of which Criterion A has seven sub-features.

Disregard for and violation of others rights since age 15, as indicated by one of the seven sub features:

Failure to obey laws and norms by engaging in behavior which results in criminal arrest, or would warrant criminal arrest
Lying, deception, and manipulation, for profit or self-amusement,
Impulsive behavior
Irritability and aggression, manifested as frequently assaults others, or engages in fighting
Blatantly disregards safety of self and others,
A pattern of irresponsibility and
Lack of remorse for actions (American Psychiatric Association, 2013)
Snip...



https://www.theravive.com/therapedia/antisocial-personality-disorder-dsm--5-301.7-(f60.2)

If President Bodybags does indeed have ADD/ADHD I doubt he can sit attentively still long enough for anyone to read anything to him, much less a WSJ article that on the face of it, will be nothing he's interested in hearing.

There is NO "intervention" or "historic repudiation" at the ballot box or otherwise, that will cure what ails president psychopath/sociopath.
Any notion that suggests differently is seriously delusional.


*Emphasis mine

Much, much more at the links.

❤ lmsp

FUN FACT: "...Approximately 3.6% of adults in the United States have antisocial personality disorder..."

https://www.betterhelp.com/advice/personality-disorders/antisocial-personality-disorder-statistics-and-what-to-do-if-you-have-it/

LiberalFighter

(50,795 posts)
47. Not being realistic.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:38 PM
Jun 2020

Why does he think everything will be fine if there is an intervention? He has nothing to lose if he wins re-election.

scarytomcat

(1,706 posts)
48. You fucking Senators had a chance and blew it off
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:56 PM
Jun 2020

Now you do something. Get a gang together and tell him to get the fuck out.
Someone needs to get this pandemic under control ... Mr Vice President

lame54

(35,268 posts)
49. Grassley thinks he's being somehow woke...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:58 PM
Jun 2020

When all he is doing is trying to buy us 4 more years of this evil incompetence

MagickMuffin

(15,933 posts)
50. Hey Death Panel Chuck Grassley
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 05:05 PM
Jun 2020

The BEST Economy was because of the Democratic President Barack Obama. Your party has dome nothing to advance the country's economy, healthcare, education, infrastructure.

Your party is the party of divisiveness and dividing the country and making yourselves rich.


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