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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsLooks like we need to watch 60 Minutes tomorrow:
Link to tweet
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-officials-allowed-flawed-covid-19-antibody-tests-2020-06-25/
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)On track to beat NY's record of 11,661 and now is at 881.
I guess DeSantis' speech about not being like NY isn't aging very well.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)dem4decades
(11,293 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)This better be really well-documented. Its hard to believe, even coming from this administration, but its possible. Its also colossally EVIL.
-Laelth
Nevilledog
(51,104 posts)question everything
(47,479 posts)Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,248 posts)not_the_one
(2,227 posts)which means that CBS is not a viewing option for the rest of the night. You can't DVR stuff that starts late because the DVR only knows the scheduled time period. And I REFUSE to program a DVR to run overtime by an hour or more. Not happening.
murielm99
(30,740 posts)knowing about Putin's bounty on American soldiers. That I will watch.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,244 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)sure what the 60 min's story's about. But coming up with an avoidance seems proof certain
With trump you have to constantly up your game since he's gotten worse and worse
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)please post something
demmiblue
(36,851 posts)Federal officials failed to immediately stop the distribution of many COVID-19 antibody tests they knew were flawed, leading to inaccurate data about the spread of the virus. Congress is now investigating why the FDA did not review the tests it allowed to be distributed widely throughout the U.S. Sharyn Alfonsi's three-month investigation into the faulty tests will be broadcast on 60 Minutes, Sunday, June 28 at 7 p.m. ET/PT on CBS.
COVID-19 diagnostic kits were in short supply when the pandemic broke out. An alternative test to detect the presence of antibodies in blood was sold as a way to indicate who was exposed to the virus at some point and could now be immune. Such tests would help officials track the disease and determine when it might be safe to begin opening up the economy. The FDA said it would allow the antibody tests to enter the US market and would do so without a formal review. Over 200 companies hit the market with the tests.
Laredo, Texas, wound up getting thousands of antibody test kits from a Chinese company. The untested kits were then tested by the city's health director, Dr. Hector Gonzalez, who found the tests accuracy to differ wildly depending on when it was given and how long after a person was exposed to the virus. The small sample he tested was only about 20% accurate. "We had such high hopes to test we were ready to do public drive-through testing Now we couldn't. We were on hold," recalls Gonzalez.
Laredo officials reported the faulty tests to federal agents at Homeland Security and officials came to town to seize the tests and start an investigation, but the federal government did little to halt the spread of other un-proven antibody testing kits.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-officials-allowed-flawed-covid-19-antibody-tests-2020-06-25/
superpatriotman
(6,249 posts)No matter the day some posters refuse to formulate readable posts.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Don't assume ol' pal.
demmiblue
(36,851 posts)I post tweets, but I also try to post the commentary, as well as an excerpt from any link provided (obviously, this doesn't work with video tweets). It really isn't that hard to cut and paste.
yellowdogintexas
(22,252 posts)for US? Then these other tests became available, the best tests of course
Lucky Luciano
(11,256 posts)Raven
(13,891 posts)Karadeniz
(22,516 posts)Jarqui
(10,125 posts)A rabid dog
stillcool
(32,626 posts)what happened to all the confiscated PPE that the feds confiscated from the states. Too many dastardly deeds with covid-19. Every day is a possible pay day for Don the con, and he apparently doesn't let anything slip by.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,001 posts)2naSalit
(86,612 posts)When they started confiscating the PPE was when it was clear to me that these fuckers are out to kill as many of us as they can because they can.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)many weeks ago, them telling me I was conspiracy nut was incorrect. My suspicion is right.
tinrobot
(10,900 posts)Our daughter almost certainly had it, yet a few weeks later her antibody test came up negative.
Last week, my doctor said that, out of hundreds of tests she's given, only a few have been positive.
Damn tests don't work.
patphil
(6,176 posts)These tests should have been verified by the FDA before they were allowed to be used.
Emergency or not, it's not ethical to just let them go out onto the market.
And, as we are seeing, a lot of people are dying because of this bad decision.
Another case of criminally negligent homicide by our government.
world wide wally
(21,743 posts)IronLionZion
(45,442 posts)czarjak
(11,274 posts)StarryNite
(9,445 posts)And why has tRump not gotten it when so many around him have? He and his family have somehow managed to stay free of the virus. Hmmmm
Captain Zero
(6,805 posts)He appears totally unafraid of the virus. This is probably the only thing he can keep his mouth shut about because it allows him to go out to rallies. That allows him to look strong and invincible. They have to have tested him multiple times for the virus and antibodies. And, he acts like someone would if they had the virus, were asymptomatic, and now has antibodies.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)leighbythesea2
(1,200 posts)To family. Its a weird demarcation to cross over to in my own mind. When you say it out loud, even to people with similar povs, we all just blink and say yeah. It's an example of how things become possible. yet we don't want to believe it.
cayugafalls
(5,640 posts)Trump is a loser. The biggest loser.
This would have been so easy for a president with an ounce of compassion and knowledge.
calimary
(81,265 posts)How many COVID deaths due to willful government negligence could we charge him for? They're on HIM.
As Michael Dukakis once said... "the fish rots from the head."
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)stopdiggin
(11,306 posts)at a point in time. After the botched CDC testing crashed and burned we were left with nothing. I think at that time the government (FDA) made a calculated decision (under a lot of pressure) to get some testing on the market. And, yes, they waived any kind of testing and certification process in order to accomplish this. (with full knowledge that this was not 'optimum.')
I'm not defending the administration, and their cascading chain of failures and unpreparedness (of which this played some part) .. but this particular decision came to us through the lenses of "better something than nothing at all" and "lesser of two evils" .. and came along with a great deal of "push" from all directions, including researchers and the medical community. So while it might not have been pure gold as either science or statescraft .. the idea that it was rendered out of malice or an intent to compromise a health outcome .. is poppycock, and standard tinfoil BS.
Politics? From Washington? Quelle surprise!
But if you're advancing a theory that the FDA is herein working to sabotage the medical community ....
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Hoyt
(54,770 posts)should have waited, or at least proceeded cautiously.
stopdiggin
(11,306 posts)(Although I'm not even 100% on that. -- Is it in fact "good" science, or medicine, to go with nothing .. over the imperfect?)
But the larger point ... I was one of those people that was screaming myself practically red in the face! "We need TESTING .. you fu**ing fools!!"
grantcart
(53,061 posts)mwb970
(11,359 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)marie999
(3,334 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,656 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)Down he goes - he and every enabler should be locked up for life. This is genocide.
sellitman
(11,606 posts)No one told him
He was completely left out of the loop.
He was playing golf that day.
He left those decisions to the coffee guy, whoever that is.
moonscape
(4,673 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,470 posts)Minutes come on in the Eastern Time zone?
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)I_UndergroundPanther
(12,470 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)will not be mentioned in a negative way or actually presented as blameless. Maybe 60 M will laud them as having a leading role in calling for FDA investigation since they are for once part of something that doesn't need to be covered up.
Thekaspervote
(32,767 posts)nolabear
(41,963 posts)Do we just have no standard at all for leadership? Its not a fucking religion; its a job! The man needs to be 25th right now, thrown into the street and then arrested.
Its madness. Were allowing ourselves to be slaughteredfor what??
Cha
(297,222 posts)Permanut
(5,608 posts)Glad to hear that. They'll get to the bottom of the flawed testing allegations, and I'm sure that if they find the allegations true, they will promptly impeach Trump again. And this time they will convict him, and he'll get the consequences he deserves.
Also, I expect that blue giraffes will appear in my front yard tomorrow with pizza and beer.
augyboston
(193 posts)trea·son·ous
adjective
involving or guilty of the crime of betraying one's country.
"a treasonous act against the State"
involving or guilty of the betrayal of someone or something.
"he never paid for his treasonous act against Valerie"
BTW, I'm from Maine and I wonder if Susan Collins still believes that Donnie has "learned his lesson"!
BYE BYE Susan
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)Loge23
(3,922 posts)As bad as this is, the silence of MSM to the Russian bounty scandal is, well...scandalous.
I guess the MSM just can't keep up with the daily fire hose of scandals from this evil administration.