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Looks like we need to watch 60 Minutes tomorrow: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Jun 2020 OP
Holy shit! As Florida is on track to exceed 10,000 new cases today. Squinch Jun 2020 #1
9,585 Major Nikon Jun 2020 #49
DeSantis might be dumber than Trump, that's a lot of dumb in one person uponit7771 Jun 2020 #56
I've started watching it again, it's been worth it. dem4decades Jun 2020 #2
No. Really? Laelth Jun 2020 #3
I don't doubt this story at all. They really are that evil. Nevilledog Jun 2020 #6
One nice thing about no professional sports: CBS comes on time.. question everything Jun 2020 #4
I second that! Marie Marie Jun 2020 #18
I'm down with that. sprinkleeninow Jun 2020 #26
If they don't start on time, I don't watch them... not_the_one Jun 2020 #48
They need to do a story on Trump murielm99 Jun 2020 #5
I'll watch both important expos'es. nt AnotherMother4Peace Jun 2020 #17
Exactly. This antibody deal? I knew they were iffy. Not Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2020 #53
cant see tweets superpatriotman Jun 2020 #7
Here ya go: demmiblue Jun 2020 #8
Thanks! superpatriotman Jun 2020 #10
Dude I would do it but don't know how. Kingofalldems Jun 2020 #11
No kidding. demmiblue Jun 2020 #12
Remember when the WHO tests were suddenly "not good enough" yellowdogintexas Jun 2020 #59
Why would tweets be invisible? Never understood that. Lucky Luciano Jun 2020 #46
This man is a serial killer. Raven Jun 2020 #9
You've got that right. Karadeniz Jun 2020 #34
Mass Murderer Jarqui Jun 2020 #38
I'd still like to know stillcool Jun 2020 #13
I'd like to know too. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2020 #14
No shit! 2naSalit Jun 2020 #16
So when I told people this is what I think is happening Doreen Jun 2020 #15
It confirms my experience. tinrobot Jun 2020 #19
It just goes to show that you can't take short cuts when you're dealing with health issues. patphil Jun 2020 #20
He is a sabotoeur world wide wally Jun 2020 #21
As soon as you accept that they want to kill us, it all makes sense IronLionZion Jun 2020 #22
Just like Jesus czarjak Jun 2020 #24
Yup. StarryNite Jun 2020 #44
See. I think Trump has antibodies. Has to be because Captain Zero Jun 2020 #61
+1, like Hitler at the end blaming all the Germans and wanting to destroy everything uponit7771 Jun 2020 #57
Been saying this leighbythesea2 Jun 2020 #62
Another criminal lack of oversight. cayugafalls Jun 2020 #23
O. M. G. calimary Jun 2020 #25
Kick and recommend for visibility. bronxiteforever Jun 2020 #27
my gawd. how evil is this man? Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #28
we had no tests (accurate or otherwise) stopdiggin Jun 2020 #29
Have to agree. We were clamoring for more tests, but maybe Hoyt Jun 2020 #31
yep. politics over science stopdiggin Jun 2020 #36
13 hour wait in line in Phoenix grantcart Jun 2020 #52
Are here ANY Americans this monster will not kill? mwb970 Jun 2020 #30
He's the only one I can think of. nt littlemissmartypants Jun 2020 #32
Family members, unless the payout is worth it. n/t marie999 Jun 2020 #33
Aaaannd, the psychopath strikes again! nt littlemissmartypants Jun 2020 #35
Don the Con was and is prepared to kill any amount of people to retain power malaise Jun 2020 #37
Trump had no idea this was the case. sellitman Jun 2020 #39
Obama knew but never told him n/t moonscape Jun 2020 #43
What time does 60 I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #40
7 PM Kingofalldems Jun 2020 #41
Thanks king I_UndergroundPanther Jun 2020 #45
Wish I could bet money Republicans other than Trump Hortensis Jun 2020 #42
It just twists my gut. Thekaspervote Jun 2020 #47
Why the HELL isnt he being frog marched out of there? nolabear Jun 2020 #50
Yes! Cha Jun 2020 #51
Oh, Congress is investigating? Permanut Jun 2020 #54
Fits the definition... augyboston Jun 2020 #55
..👍🏼 uponit7771 Jun 2020 #58
Just another scandal. Loge23 Jun 2020 #60

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
49. 9,585
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:48 PM
Jun 2020

On track to beat NY's record of 11,661 and now is at 881.

I guess DeSantis' speech about not being like NY isn't aging very well.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
3. No. Really?
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 01:46 PM
Jun 2020

This better be really well-documented. It’s hard to believe, even coming from this administration, but it’s possible. It’s also colossally EVIL.

-Laelth

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
48. If they don't start on time, I don't watch them...
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:40 PM
Jun 2020

which means that CBS is not a viewing option for the rest of the night. You can't DVR stuff that starts late because the DVR only knows the scheduled time period. And I REFUSE to program a DVR to run overtime by an hour or more. Not happening.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
53. Exactly. This antibody deal? I knew they were iffy. Not
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:01 AM
Jun 2020

sure what the 60 min's story's about. But coming up with an avoidance seems proof certain

With trump you have to constantly up your game since he's gotten worse and worse

demmiblue

(36,851 posts)
8. Here ya go:
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 01:55 PM
Jun 2020
"BREAKING: #60Minutes investigation reveals Trump knowingly allowed flawed #COVID19 antibody tests to circulate, leading to inaccurate data about virus spread, creating data to support re-openings, and potentially causing thousands more preventable deaths"


Federal officials allowed distribution of COVID-19 antibody tests after they knew many were flawed

Federal officials failed to immediately stop the distribution of many COVID-19 antibody tests they knew were flawed, leading to inaccurate data about the spread of the virus. Congress is now investigating why the FDA did not review the tests it allowed to be distributed widely throughout the U.S. Sharyn Alfonsi's three-month investigation into the faulty tests will be broadcast on 60 Minutes, Sunday, June 28 at 7 p.m. ET/PT on CBS.

COVID-19 diagnostic kits were in short supply when the pandemic broke out. An alternative test to detect the presence of antibodies in blood was sold as a way to indicate who was exposed to the virus at some point and could now be immune. Such tests would help officials track the disease and determine when it might be safe to begin opening up the economy. The FDA said it would allow the antibody tests to enter the US market and would do so without a formal review. Over 200 companies hit the market with the tests.

Laredo, Texas, wound up getting thousands of antibody test kits from a Chinese company. The untested kits were then tested by the city's health director, Dr. Hector Gonzalez, who found the tests accuracy to differ wildly depending on when it was given and how long after a person was exposed to the virus. The small sample he tested was only about 20% accurate. "We had such high hopes to test… we were ready to do public drive-through testing… Now we couldn't. We were on hold," recalls Gonzalez.

Laredo officials reported the faulty tests to federal agents at Homeland Security and officials came to town to seize the tests and start an investigation, but the federal government did little to halt the spread of other un-proven antibody testing kits.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/federal-officials-allowed-flawed-covid-19-antibody-tests-2020-06-25/

demmiblue

(36,851 posts)
12. No kidding.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 02:03 PM
Jun 2020

I post tweets, but I also try to post the commentary, as well as an excerpt from any link provided (obviously, this doesn't work with video tweets). It really isn't that hard to cut and paste.

yellowdogintexas

(22,252 posts)
59. Remember when the WHO tests were suddenly "not good enough"
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:45 AM
Jun 2020

for US? Then these other tests became available, the best tests of course

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
13. I'd still like to know
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 02:05 PM
Jun 2020

what happened to all the confiscated PPE that the feds confiscated from the states. Too many dastardly deeds with covid-19. Every day is a possible pay day for Don the con, and he apparently doesn't let anything slip by.

2naSalit

(86,612 posts)
16. No shit!
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 02:16 PM
Jun 2020

When they started confiscating the PPE was when it was clear to me that these fuckers are out to kill as many of us as they can because they can.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
15. So when I told people this is what I think is happening
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 02:15 PM
Jun 2020

many weeks ago, them telling me I was conspiracy nut was incorrect. My suspicion is right.

tinrobot

(10,900 posts)
19. It confirms my experience.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jun 2020

Our daughter almost certainly had it, yet a few weeks later her antibody test came up negative.

Last week, my doctor said that, out of hundreds of tests she's given, only a few have been positive.

Damn tests don't work.

patphil

(6,176 posts)
20. It just goes to show that you can't take short cuts when you're dealing with health issues.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 02:26 PM
Jun 2020

These tests should have been verified by the FDA before they were allowed to be used.
Emergency or not, it's not ethical to just let them go out onto the market.
And, as we are seeing, a lot of people are dying because of this bad decision.

Another case of criminally negligent homicide by our government.

StarryNite

(9,445 posts)
44. Yup.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 07:16 PM
Jun 2020

And why has tRump not gotten it when so many around him have? He and his family have somehow managed to stay free of the virus. Hmmmm

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
61. See. I think Trump has antibodies. Has to be because
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:36 PM
Jun 2020

He appears totally unafraid of the virus. This is probably the only thing he can keep his mouth shut about because it allows him to go out to rallies. That allows him to look strong and invincible. They have to have tested him multiple times for the virus and antibodies. And, he acts like someone would if they had the virus, were asymptomatic, and now has antibodies.

leighbythesea2

(1,200 posts)
62. Been saying this
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:41 PM
Jun 2020

To family. Its a weird demarcation to cross over to in my own mind. When you say it out loud, even to people with similar povs, we all just blink and say yeah. It's an example of how things become possible. yet we don't want to believe it.

cayugafalls

(5,640 posts)
23. Another criminal lack of oversight.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 02:47 PM
Jun 2020

Trump is a loser. The biggest loser.

This would have been so easy for a president with an ounce of compassion and knowledge.

calimary

(81,265 posts)
25. O. M. G.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:08 PM
Jun 2020

How many COVID deaths due to willful government negligence could we charge him for? They're on HIM.

As Michael Dukakis once said... "the fish rots from the head."

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
29. we had no tests (accurate or otherwise)
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:31 PM
Jun 2020

at a point in time. After the botched CDC testing crashed and burned we were left with nothing. I think at that time the government (FDA) made a calculated decision (under a lot of pressure) to get some testing on the market. And, yes, they waived any kind of testing and certification process in order to accomplish this. (with full knowledge that this was not 'optimum.')

I'm not defending the administration, and their cascading chain of failures and unpreparedness (of which this played some part) .. but this particular decision came to us through the lenses of "better something than nothing at all" and "lesser of two evils" .. and came along with a great deal of "push" from all directions, including researchers and the medical community. So while it might not have been pure gold as either science or statescraft .. the idea that it was rendered out of malice or an intent to compromise a health outcome .. is poppycock, and standard tinfoil BS.

Politics? From Washington? Quelle surprise!
But if you're advancing a theory that the FDA is herein working to sabotage the medical community ....
---- -- -- -------- ----

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
31. Have to agree. We were clamoring for more tests, but maybe
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:42 PM
Jun 2020

should have waited, or at least proceeded cautiously.

stopdiggin

(11,306 posts)
36. yep. politics over science
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:48 PM
Jun 2020

(Although I'm not even 100% on that. -- Is it in fact "good" science, or medicine, to go with nothing .. over the imperfect?)

But the larger point ... I was one of those people that was screaming myself practically red in the face! "We need TESTING .. you fu**ing fools!!"

malaise

(268,998 posts)
37. Don the Con was and is prepared to kill any amount of people to retain power
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 03:52 PM
Jun 2020

Down he goes - he and every enabler should be locked up for life. This is genocide.

sellitman

(11,606 posts)
39. Trump had no idea this was the case.
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 04:19 PM
Jun 2020

No one told him

He was completely left out of the loop.

He was playing golf that day.

He left those decisions to the coffee guy, whoever that is.



Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. Wish I could bet money Republicans other than Trump
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 06:43 PM
Jun 2020

will not be mentioned in a negative way or actually presented as blameless. Maybe 60 M will laud them as having a leading role in calling for FDA investigation since they are for once part of something that doesn't need to be covered up.

nolabear

(41,963 posts)
50. Why the HELL isnt he being frog marched out of there?
Sat Jun 27, 2020, 11:52 PM
Jun 2020

Do we just have no standard at all for leadership? It’s not a fucking religion; it’s a job! The man needs to be 25th right now, thrown into the street and then arrested.

It’s madness. We’re allowing ourselves to be slaughtered—for what??

Permanut

(5,608 posts)
54. Oh, Congress is investigating?
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:31 AM
Jun 2020

Glad to hear that. They'll get to the bottom of the flawed testing allegations, and I'm sure that if they find the allegations true, they will promptly impeach Trump again. And this time they will convict him, and he'll get the consequences he deserves.

Also, I expect that blue giraffes will appear in my front yard tomorrow with pizza and beer.

augyboston

(193 posts)
55. Fits the definition...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 06:07 AM
Jun 2020

trea·son·ous

adjective
involving or guilty of the crime of betraying one's country.
"a treasonous act against the State"
involving or guilty of the betrayal of someone or something.
"he never paid for his treasonous act against Valerie"

BTW, I'm from Maine and I wonder if Susan Collins still believes that Donnie has "learned his lesson"!

BYE BYE Susan

Loge23

(3,922 posts)
60. Just another scandal.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:49 AM
Jun 2020

As bad as this is, the silence of MSM to the Russian bounty scandal is, well...scandalous.
I guess the MSM just can't keep up with the daily fire hose of scandals from this evil administration.

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