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BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:14 AM Jun 2020

Trump has what psychologists call the Dark Triad

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

In psychology, the dark triad refers to the personality traits of narcissism, Machiavellianism, and psychopathy. They are called "dark" because of their malevolent qualities.

Research on the dark triad is used in applied psychology, especially within the fields of law enforcement, clinical psychology, and business management. People scoring high on these traits are more likely to commit crimes, cause social distress and create severe problems for an organization, especially if they are in leadership positions (for more information, see psychopathy, narcissism, and Machiavellianism in the workplace). They also tend to be less compassionate, agreeable, empathetic, satisfied with their lives, and less likely to believe they and others are good.
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Trump has what psychologists call the Dark Triad (Original Post) BigmanPigman Jun 2020 OP
"low agreeableness is the strongest correlate of the dark triad" denem Jun 2020 #1
I certainly find that vile creature to be extremely disagreeable (nt) mr_lebowski Jun 2020 #2
Also of of the antagonistic populist types who energize Hortensis Jun 2020 #3
Dark Triad agingdem Jun 2020 #4
Or it could be anosognosia. nt littlemissmartypants Jun 2020 #6
I have never heard of anosognosia agingdem Jun 2020 #8
It's the result of brain damage/disorder from a variety of sources. littlemissmartypants Jun 2020 #10
and there are many people who support this fucked up trash JI7 Jun 2020 #5
I am wondering about the reference for this. Do you have any other source beside wikipedia? TIA ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Jun 2020 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Patterson Jun 2020 #9
No, I don't unfortunately. BigmanPigman Jun 2020 #11
Thanks anyway. ❤ nt littlemissmartypants Jun 2020 #12
Trump is evil and not mentally ill. n/t KWR65 Jun 2020 #13

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. Also of of the antagonistic populist types who energize
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:25 AM
Jun 2020

populist movements like Trump's. Malignant narcissists would, of course, be in a whooole different class from run of the mill low-agreeableness trumpsters and bros. WaPo:

(Some) Sanders and Trump supporters have this quality in common. So do other populist voters.

Populist rhetoric is widespread in the United States. ... “Our movement is about replacing a failed and corrupt political establishment with a new government controlled by you, the American people.”... “A lot of working-class people out there voted for Trump, in a sense, because they gave up on the political establishment. Well, I, long time ago, gave up on the political establishment.”

Populist rhetoric like this pits the good virtuous people against a corrupt and condescending political elite. ... But to whom, exactly, does populist rhetoric appeal? Research finds that populist voters do not have much in common — at least not along traditional political lines. ... Moreover, populist voters don’t necessarily share ideological positions or ideas about policies. Those who support populists can be politically left or right, progressive or conservative, multiculturalist or nativist, pro- or anti-LGBT rights, Euroskeptic or in favor of European unification.

In a recent study, we found that supporters of populists do have something in common: their personalities. Psychologists distinguish among five general traits that determine our personalities: openness to experience, extroversion, neuroticism, conscientiousness and agreeableness. This last personality trait — agreeableness — is what matters when it comes to populism.

Those who score high on agreeableness tend to trust others and to be modest, tolerant and cooperative. Those who score low are egoistic, cynical, distrustful and inclined to believe in conspiracy theories. Such low scorers on agreeableness can be highly susceptible to the populist anti-establishment message, ...

Contrary to what many people think, disagreeableness is not necessarily something negative. It’s a quality linked with an increased tendency to protest, speak up at public meetings and listen to different political opinions. And of course, critiques of the establishment can be functional and healthy for democracies. ...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/02/21/sanders-trump-supporters-have-this-quality-common-so-do-other-populist-voters/

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
4. Dark Triad
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:56 AM
Jun 2020

with Dunning-Kruger Effect overlap.."A type of cognitive bias in which people believe that they are smarter and more capable than they really are. Essentially, low ability people do not possess the skills needed to recognize their own incompetence".

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
8. I have never heard of anosognosia
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 03:41 PM
Jun 2020

...so mentally ill that he refuses to acknowledge his mental illness..no self awareness..schizophrenia...it must be an inherited defective gene ...Trump's three reptilian spawn exhibit the the same symptoms..

littlemissmartypants

(22,655 posts)
10. It's the result of brain damage/disorder from a variety of sources.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 04:06 PM
Jun 2020

Could be stroke induced, could be caused by frontal/
prefrontal cortex lobe damage, or many different types of brain damage, like psychosis, Antisocial Personality Disorder, Bipolar disorder, any of the many schizo affective disorders, even head injury close and open types. It's also seen in dementia disorders.

And yes, it is suggested there in a hereditary component to many of the disorders mentioned especially Antisocial Personality Disorder but APD can be related to actual physical insult to the brain.

The most famous example of which is the story of Phineas Gage.

Phineas P. Gage (1823–1860) was an American railroad construction foreman remembered for his improbable[B1]:19 survival of an accident in which a large iron rod was driven completely through his head, destroying much of his brain's left frontal lobe, and for that injury's reported effects on his personality and behavior over the remaining 12 years of his life?—?effects sufficiently profound (for a time at least) that friends saw him as "no longer Gage." [H]:14

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_Gage



More here:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/phineas-gage-neurosciences-most-famous-patient-11390067/


Anosognosia, also called "lack of insight," is a symptom of severe mental illness experienced by some that impairs a person's ability to understand and perceive his or her illness. It is the single largest reason why people with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder refuse medications or do not seek treatment.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/key-issues/anosognosia%23:~:text%3DAnosognosia%252C%2520also%2520called%2520%2522lack%2520of,or%2520do%2520not%2520seek%2520treatment.&ved=2ahUKEwjyzpyyoqXqAhWhdN8KHYgvDgUQFjABegQICxAI&usg=AOvVaw1rg1lTbABPfAKXkfhECAaB

Anosognosia is a result of changes to the brain. It's not just stubbornness or outright denial, which is a defense mechanism some people use when they receive a difficult diagnosis to cope with. In fact, anosognosia is central in conditions like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.healthline.com/health/anosognosia&ved=2ahUKEwjyzpyyoqXqAhWhdN8KHYgvDgUQFjAHegQIDBAK&usg=AOvVaw1AceULMTbHJlB8C0Hm3pqu

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