Holy hell - This would drive the white supremacists up the wall

[packman]

The Archbishop of Canterbury has suggested that Jesus should not be portrayed as white.

Reverend Justin Welby insisted the church must not ignore the Black Lives Matter movement and said Christians should rethink how Jesus Christ is portrayed as a white man.

He said this needs to be reviewed in light of anti-racism protests worldwide but added he did not want to throw out the past by moving forward.

The Most Revd and Rt Hon Welby, 105th Archbishop of Canterbury, was asked whether Jesus' characterisation needs to be looked at, appearing on BBCRadio 4's Today Programme.

He said: "Yes of course it does, this sense that God was white. You go into churches around the world and you don't see a white Jesus."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/archbishop-canterbury-says-jesus-shouldnt-22263022?d

You mean the pix of Christ hanging over my bed many, many decades ago was wrong?

[handmade34]

1. ...

[highplainsdem]

31. Great picture. And a reminder that as good as Ted Neeley was in Jesus Christ Superstar,

Jesus probably looked more like Carl Anderson, who played Judas.


https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/qMNy5BO_X5gp-spsccJ3MvcfObU=/0x0:2692x2161/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:2692x2161):no_upscale()/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/16106877/03439_07_5067_36594915.jpg

[MotorCityBeard]

40. Oh, this musical nerd salutes you ....

...and you are spot on with that comment.

[edhopper]

2. What a man from that area

at that time looked like.

[luvs2sing]

8. I remember when that picture came out.

It bears a very slight resemblance to my husband, who is an Eastern European Jew. He got some hilarious good natured teasing from our close friends.

[Demovictory9]

17. lol. his direct ancestor is Jesus

[Hortensis]

32. :) Similar coloring to my Jewish husband.

[bobbieinok]

11. I also remember when that picture came out

[Blue_true]

16. He also could have been Eqyptian or Black.

There were Roman soldiers and administrators and their families in the region, so there is a very minute chance that he could have been White, vanishingly small change.

[marie999]

25. I will bet that none of those Romans were Jewish. n/t

[Blue_true]

27. No, they weren't. They didn't mix with the "ruled".

It is possible that one of their sons could have become a rebel and call himself Jesus, but that chance was likely minute, IMO.

[yardwork]

36. Jesus's parents were Jewish, if the gospels are correct.

[Blue_true]

39. History is written by ones owning the pen.

We really don't know what ethnic origin the figure that called hinself Jesus was.

As far as belief in gospel, I lost that as soon as I became old enough to think critically. For me, if there was a Jesus, he was likely some eventually well known rabble-rouser that eventually pissed off the wrong person. When I was in college, there was this character named Jeb Smock that would come to our Florida campus preaching the gospel and starting verbal fights with anyone that paid attention to him, believe me, if some of the students could have, they would have crucified the guy. Jeb went on to start of a southeast US significant religious revival, likely what a Jesus figure would have done until he pissed off the wrong Roman. Take into account, 30 miles in those days was a very significant distance, Jeb covered hundreds of miles.

[yardwork]

41. Brother Jeb covered thousands of miles.

He regularly visited the university I attended in North Carolina, where he drew crowds and exchanged insults with us. An almost medieval level of entertainment, as I recall.

My point about the gospels is that if one believes that Jesus existed at all, there's no reason not to believe that he was born into and raised in a Jewish family. The whole story is built on that premise.

[StarryNite]

26. I remember this too.

He looks worried. He looks like how I feel about our country today.

[Budi]

3. The response should be good. Can't wait to hear Pence's answer

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I really want to hear it !

[liberalmuse]

4. A right wing racist friend of my mom

Once gave my daughter a book of Bible stories with an illustrated blond-haired, blue-eyed Jesus. I got a laugh out of it and called him “Brad Pitt” Jesus. I had a friend who was black who always saw Jesus as being black. That surprised me until I realized Jesus was more likely to be a man of color had he existed.

[malaise]

5. Marcus Garvey told us this over 100 years ago

After 400 years of oppression, I will never understood why non-white people would want their imaginary friend to be white

[Demovictory9]

18. brainwashing. Same as many women being unable to picture God as female.

every aspect of culture says the superior , supreme being is white and male.

[malaise]

21. Well my position is well known

all supreme beings are figments of our imagination and the male imagination has been supreme for eons.

[not_the_one]

38. Of course God was a HE. Of COURSE he had a dick. The female is nothing more than an afterthought

(made from a body part, no less), and a plot development.

How else could there be the #1 FIRST EVER soap opera, beginning with Eve beguiling Adam (it's all HER fault) into eating the fruit of the tree of knowledge (also good and evil, aka as intelligence), causing them to become carnal beings, so OF COURSE they have to fuck (and get cast out of the garden), so as to have two sons, one who kills the other and is cast out (of the family).

One COULD question why God had to make a FEMALE. He could have created another MALE, and Adam may have been happy with his new mate (in the Australian sense... ). But then there would have been no sex. But Wait! There COULD have been, but we sure wouldn't have wanted THAT ABOMINATION. There would have been no "subservience". UNLESS God, in his magnificent wisdom, also would create THE TOP and THE BOTTOM. That, apparently, was too much even for God. The Plot Thickens!!!

And that is in the first few pages of "The Good Book"...

Except it really doesn't make for "a good read". Tedious, repetitive (especially when they start "begetting &quot ), absurd, OVER THE TOP, pushing the boundaries of being believable. Filled with horror, sickness, all the traits of humanity... which was CREATED by God with a dick.

I think the one, big, mistake in the whole concept was the fact that God (allegedly) had a "DICK".

On a scale of 1 to 10 stars, The Good Book gets 1/2 a star.

But don't mind me, I'm a born again atheist.

YMMV

[Buckeye_Democrat]

6. Assuming that he actually existed...

... he probably looked Middle-Eastern, and it's not like that particular portrait looks like the typical Englishman. Even darker hair and skin is probably more accurate, though.

When the Phoenician neighbors of the Jewish people sailed along the West Coast of Africa, they noted that all the people they saw were "Ethiopians".

https://www.ancient.eu/article/913/hanno-carthaginian-explorer/

They also assumed that gorillas were a type of people and tried to coax them into their boats, suffering beatings and bites from the effort. So they killed two of them and returned the hides as evidence of the encounter.

When Phoenicians had previously circumnavigated the entire continent of Africa, at the bequest of an Egyptian pharaoh and which took a couple years for them to complete, they weren't believed when they reported that the Sun was seen rising and falling along the Northern hemisphere as they sailed around it.

[kurtcagle]

37. Jesus would have looked Lebanese

If he lived, he was born and spent much of his life in Northern Israel, within hiking distance of the Lebanese border, and there are a number of clues that point to Joseph and/or Mary actually being Canaanite (Lebanese). Jesus would have looked a lot like Jamie Farr, who played Max Klinger on Mash. (Canaanite/Phoenican genetics percentagr is very high in the Lebanese people).

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

7. Throughout the centuries Jesus has been portrayed as

looking like the people who worshipped him and created the images, which makes sense. If he's your saviour you're probably going to imagine him as looking like you. But the real person, if there was one, or even if he was just made up by a cult of first-century middle-easterners, would not have looked like Max von Sydow.

[StarryNite]

28. Yes and when their stories tell that they were made in God's image

they would imagine their God's son to look like God and thus Jesus would be whatever they see when they look in the mirror.
Females were just an afterthought to entertain and often be enslaved by males.

[MaryMagdaline]

9. I have no doubt that mass protesting spread the virus

Sure, people wore masks. Where did they eat and where did they use bathrooms?

The point though, they were risking their lives in order to save other lives. They didn’t choose the battle conditions.

[Srkdqltr]

10. He probably looked more like John Legend. From Jesus christ superstar.

Assuming of course.

[marked50]

12. I thought they got that from a photograph---Ha

[RussBLib]

13. I can hear the racists on FOX now

JESUS WAS WHITE!!!

JESUS IS WHITE!!!

JUST LIKE SANTA CLAUS!!

[StarryNite]

30. Isn't the Easter Bunny typically white too?

[SlogginThroughIt]

14. He looks like one hell of a hockey player

[Blue_true]

15. Given the part of the world that he was said to have been born in,

Jesus was most likely one of the following, Sephartic Jewish (dark skinned), an Eqyptian, a Black man (there were Blacks in the region), a Roman (unlikely because they were the supreme class at that time).

If he was of Roman birth, then he would have been White, but his more likely ethnic group was one of the first three that I listed, overwhelmingly so.

[bobbieinok]

19. That painting was made by Warner Saliman in 1940

It became extremely popular. Some groups made wallet sized copies and gave them to US sevicemen in WWII

In the Cold War some people thought cards should be made with the painting so there could be card-carrying Christians just like there were 'card-carrying communiststs'

Info from Wikipedia article

Eta----article title Head of Christ (interesting info in article)

[dalton99a]

20. Kick

[Ms. Toad]

22. My Favorite illustration of Jesus

[StarryNite]

33. Wow!

This is a beautiful version.

[Ms. Toad]

34. The model for it was a woman,

Which adds to the depth.

[demosincebirth]

23. More like Omar Shariff or Anthony Quin

[jmg257]

24. Figure he would look like most other Jewish folks?

Plenty around over the years to compare.

[marie999]

29. According to the US government, Jesus would be considered White.

Middle Easterners have been trying for years to have their own category. No, he did not look like that painting. We have Middle Eastern friends and since Arabs are a Semitic people, Jesus probably looked more like them.

[MagickMuffin]

35. I have a close friend who mentors young children of various diversities and ages

He is a fitness trainer and these kids are part of his fitness program and he has about 30 kids.

A couple of days ago he posted to his fb about how a little white girl just blurted out that Jesus was white. She did this a few times. AJ looked around to all the other kids and the black kids looked at him like what, then he looked at the hispanic kids and they were aaa no he isn't, look at the asian kids and they just looked at each other.

So, AJ saw this as a teachable moment. He told the little white girl that Jesus is white to her, but Jesus is black to them, Jesus is hispanic to them, and Jesus is asian to them.

AJ is AA and trying to make sense of all the chaos our country is going thru.