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Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:54 AM Jun 2020

Steve Schmidt's eloquence is unmached

Last edited Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:37 PM - Edit history (2)

in today's political world.

On AM JOY, he shredded Trump over the murder of American soldiers paid for by Russian oligarchs. And he stated that the Trump administration will leave a stench that will not be forgotten. (I'm paraphrasing.)

If anyone knows how to post a link to Schmidt's commentary this morning, please do so. It's a must see.

A few weeks ago, I did a post called "Fuck Steve Schmidt." The point was that he spent decades using his brilliance to put Republicans in power. And that his efforts led, inevitably, to Donald Trump. I still believe that. But I feel he's redeemed himself to a degree with his rants (and those of the Lincoln Project) against Trump.

At this moment in time, Steve Schmidt is perhaps the absolute best spokesperson attacking Trump and the Republican Party. We need a few Dems who can speak as powerfully. But, in the meantime, thanks for Steve Schmidt.

On edit: Gothmog has posted the video on #25 below. Please, please watch it.

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Steve Schmidt's eloquence is unmached (Original Post) Cyrano Jun 2020 OP
I agree Gothmog Jun 2020 #1
Never. He used that eloquence against Hillary. LakeArenal Jun 2020 #2
He was never Trump - He was not against Hillary OKNancy Jun 2020 #11
I am not going to look up again the things Steve Schmidt has said... LakeArenal Jun 2020 #13
Yep. Folks like Steve Schmidt may not be our friends, but at this time they are very useful FM123 Jun 2020 #3
They are not our friends in the long run calguy Jun 2020 #10
Yes. And evidently, patriotism got through to Schmidt. Cyrano Jun 2020 #18
Steve Schmidt quote from June 2018 on leaving the Republican party: Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #44
I believe he is a Rockefeller Republican LiberalArkie Jun 2020 #29
Agree Mike 03 Jun 2020 #4
It's as if Charles Lindbergh and George Wallace had a baby and it grew up to be president, GreatCaesarsGhost Jun 2020 #5
Yep. For those who aren't tuned into history, Cyrano Jun 2020 #8
throw in roy cohn as mid-witch to collect the waters erronis Jun 2020 #30
I believe Schmidt is trying to atone for his previous sins, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2020 #6
+1 n/t Laelth Jun 2020 #9
+1000 smirkymonkey Jun 2020 #45
he's gotten the platform in the media bigtree Jun 2020 #7
...by people who get air time on MSNBC. JHB Jun 2020 #12
+1000 bigtree Jun 2020 #23
Steve Schmidt on "Worst President" Donald Trump ...... spread it newsboy Jun 2020 #14
link? Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #38
He speaks like a learned scholar, very professorial. procon Jun 2020 #15
His messages are vehicles for Frank Luntz-type words. Hortensis Jun 2020 #16
At this moment, at this time, would you prefer that Cyrano Jun 2020 #19
That was a comment on technique. Hortensis Jun 2020 #21
He is a master at using words to cover up his intentions. erronis Jun 2020 #33
Oh, I actually do. True they want the Hortensis Jun 2020 #42
Something to be said for ruthlessness. gibraltar72 Jun 2020 #17
Thanks for reconsidering your take on him Bradshaw3 Jun 2020 #20
Yes, it seems he possesses a basic decency Cyrano Jun 2020 #22
Oh, how his life would be different had they won. Baked Potato Jun 2020 #24
What a rancid moment in the life of the American nation. #AMJoy Gothmog Jun 2020 #25
Thanks for posting, Gothmog. Everyone MUST watch this Cyrano Jun 2020 #26
At this moment in time, marie999 Jun 2020 #27
Steve Schmidt is right wing trash melman Jun 2020 #28
Nah BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #32
Feel free to show me where I've expressed admiration for either melman Jun 2020 #35
Who said you did? BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #36
I'm defensive? melman Jun 2020 #39
Steve Schmidt on AmJoy evilhime Jun 2020 #31
Thanks! I am now watching. erronis Jun 2020 #40
Yes, I was mesmerized listening to him today! MoonRiver Jun 2020 #34
he has a way with words. glad he's using those words against Trump Demovictory9 Jun 2020 #37
Steve's great! BannonsLiver Jun 2020 #41
Video from AM Joy: Rhiannon12866 Jun 2020 #43

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
11. He was never Trump - He was not against Hillary
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:18 AM
Jun 2020

He was McCain vs Obama

A quote for you:
The hour of reckoning for the Never Trump movement is now before us,” said Steve Schmidt, the GOP strategist who ran McCain’s 2008 campaign. “There are scores of these people who say they’ll still support the GOP nominee. That has been an incongruent position for some time, but never more so than it is now.”

Schmidt predicted that “a substantial amount of Republican officials who have worked in Republican administrations, especially on issues of defense and national security, will endorse Hillary Clinton in the campaign.”

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/republicans-clinton-trump-indiana-222778

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
13. I am not going to look up again the things Steve Schmidt has said...
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jun 2020

If you want to believe he’s changed go ahead. Frank Lutz is great with words, too.

I’ll never trust a word either has to say.

I think he’s staging his Republican comeback as the new face of the Repuke party. Which is fine. But I’ll step out now.

FM123

(10,053 posts)
3. Yep. Folks like Steve Schmidt may not be our friends, but at this time they are very useful
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 10:58 AM
Jun 2020

and effective traveling companions on the road to trump's removal.

calguy

(5,306 posts)
10. They are not our friends in the long run
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:17 AM
Jun 2020

But when America is faced with a crisis, as we are now, patriotic Americans put aside their political differences and unite against the common enemy. That enemy right now is Donald Trump. When we achieve our mutual goal of defeating the menace threat to our country, we will go back to debating our political differences.
They won't be our friends when this is all over, but they are right now.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
18. Yes. And evidently, patriotism got through to Schmidt.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:37 AM
Jun 2020

He believes in the Constitution. And he also believes that Trump is a threat to the entire world.

The next time some Republican becomes prez, Schmidt may just decide to peddle their propaganda. One can only hope that he's learned where that leads. And given the incredible intelligence, and decency, he has demonstrated recently, hopefully he won't.

Steve Schmidt, if you're here, please listen. Today, you are on the side of reason and sanity. Whenever the next con artist is up for election, please stay on the side of democracy and sanity.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
44. Steve Schmidt quote from June 2018 on leaving the Republican party:
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 09:04 PM
Jun 2020

"This Independent voter will be aligned with the only party left in America that stands for what is right and decent and remains fidelitous to our Republic, objective truth, the rule of law and our Allies. That party is the Democratic Party."

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
29. I believe he is a Rockefeller Republican
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 01:53 PM
Jun 2020


I can't post what the Democratic party signs looked like in 1956.

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
4. Agree
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:00 AM
Jun 2020

He's been a tremendous asset.

I do believe Mike Bloomberg can speak as powerfully (through ads and psyops). I am waiting, with a lot of others, to see what he is planning. He said he was prepared to do and spend whatever it takes. I always mention Bloomberg because he was actually the first person to "take off the gloves" with Trump. It's worth remembering that.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
8. Yep. For those who aren't tuned into history,
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:15 AM
Jun 2020

Lindbergh was a Nazi sympathizer right up until the day we went to war with Germany. And Wallace was a man who wanted the return of plantations, slavery and Scarlett O'Hara.

Fascists have always been a subset of hateful true believers in America. They're a minority of pricks, always have been and always will be. But Schmidt really tied two different flavors of fascism into a single package and put a bow on it. Not much difference between the Confederacy and the Nazis. Just different targets and tactics.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,686 posts)
6. I believe Schmidt is trying to atone for his previous sins,
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:02 AM
Jun 2020

the most spectacular of which was Sarah Palin. I'll bet he learned the importance of vetting. Whether he has experienced a genuine conversion remains to be seen, but for now I'm delighted to have his sharp tongue on our side.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
7. he's gotten the platform in the media
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:06 AM
Jun 2020

...a former republican is certainly not 'eloquence unmatched.'

Not by any stretch. Good statement though.

JHB

(37,160 posts)
12. ...by people who get air time on MSNBC.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:25 AM
Jun 2020

That is a caveat of no small significance.

There are plenty of wordsmiths who can eloquently frame the discussion and go on the attack. And who won't pretend that the GOP's madness was something g that mysteriously appeared when Donnie came down the escalator.

Yet somehow we're treated to the same NeverTrumper faces crowding out people who were more perceptive than they were.

 

newsboy

(89 posts)
14. Steve Schmidt on "Worst President" Donald Trump ...... spread it
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jun 2020

"Donald Trump has been the worst president this country has ever had. And I don't say that hyperbolically. He is. But he is a consequential president. And he has brought this country in three short years to a place of weakness that is simply unimaginable if you were pondering where we are today from the day where Barack Obama left office. And there were a lot of us on that day who were deeply skeptical and very worried about what a Trump presidency would be. But this is a moment of unparalleled national humiliation, of weakness.

"When you listen to the President, these are the musings of an imbecile. An idiot. And I don't use those words to name call. I use them because they are the precise words of the English language to describe his behavior. His comportment. His actions. We've never seen a level of incompetence, a level of ineptitude so staggering on a daily basis by anybody in the history of the country whose ever been charged with substantial responsibilities.

"It's just astonishing that this man is president of the United States. The man, the con man, from New York City. Many bankruptcies, failed businesses, a reality show, that branded him as something that he never was. A successful businessman. Well, he's the President of the United States now, and the man who said he would make the country great again. And he's brought death, suffering, and economic collapse on truly an epic scale. And let's be clear. This isn't happening in every country around the world. This place. Our place. Our home. Our country. The United States. We are the epicenter. We are the place where you're the most likely to die from this disease. We're the ones with the most shattered economy. And we are because of the fool that sits in the Oval Office behind the Resolute Desk."

procon

(15,805 posts)
15. He speaks like a learned scholar, very professorial.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:29 AM
Jun 2020

He has always reminded me of university professor who has momentarily stepped out of his class of doctoral students to chat with the dean.

He is very much like a handful of respected professors that I admired in my college years and I sought out their courses whenever I could. His expressive and insightful monologues are almost like dramatic readings, made all the more noteworthy by his expansive vocabulary.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
19. At this moment, at this time, would you prefer that
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jun 2020

Schmidt was writing words for Trump to read off a teleprompter?

Be grateful that one of their great propagandists is attacking Trump rather than Biden.

There is one absolute necessity. Trump must be dragged from the White House. Anyone who helps us do that is presently a friend who may once again be our future opponent.

Be grateful that the imbecile in the White House is just making up word salad anytime he's in front of a mic. This dangerous, malicious moron has to go before he destroys us all. And Steve Schmidt is doing everything possible to destroy the horrible Trump beast.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. That was a comment on technique.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:57 AM
Jun 2020

Not a criticism. What people admire can be copied.

He’s been doing this for so long that I doubt he keeps a list of words in front of him every time, but unquestionably he has one and adds new words to it as the situation suggests.

And you’ll notice that he never starts by repeating some lie against us defensively. Hell no. He goes straight for the other guys‘ throat.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
33. He is a master at using words to cover up his intentions.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:09 PM
Jun 2020

I can't believe anyone that hopes for the resurrection of the (r)epuglicon party is honestly wanting the Democrats to win.

If Schmidt and other (r)s want to form a new party and totally cleanse it of the Rove/Abramov/Cheney/Grinch/McCarthy/Cohn/tea-party/evangelical/racist/anti-science/etc. types, then please do that. Please do not just change the wording of your platform to something like "Big Tent".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
42. Oh, I actually do. True they want the
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:41 PM
Jun 2020

Republican party still representative, but they want the massively corrupt and extremist elements out of the power because they’re destroying all of us.

Like us, they underestimated just how ruthlessly corrupt and treasonous the leaders and despicably self destructive the followers would get. They thought there was a bottom.

Bradshaw3

(7,521 posts)
20. Thanks for reconsidering your take on him
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jun 2020

Some people will continue to paint Schmidt as a Machiavellian type who is only saying things now in order to gain power in the future, which would make him just as bad as the trumpers. I think it is simple minded and easy to paint every human in binary terms of good and evil. People, including Democrats, like to think they are pure in their actions and beliefs but in reality no one is. A time such as this shows someone's true character and even though I disagree with him politically I think Schmidt has shown his basic decency and love for his country - in the most articulate way you will find.

Cyrano

(15,035 posts)
22. Yes, it seems he possesses a basic decency
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:00 PM
Jun 2020

The future will tell, but I can't believe he will return to again write words for sewer dwellers. If I'm wrong, sigh.

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
24. Oh, how his life would be different had they won.
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:16 PM
Jun 2020

Other than that, I wouldn’t push him off the train.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
27. At this moment in time,
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 12:40 PM
Jun 2020

I don't care what he has done in the past or what he will do after the election. We need him now. We need everybody we can get especially Republicans. Get rid of trump is our primary goal and we will use everybody who is willing to help.

BannonsLiver

(16,384 posts)
32. Nah
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:07 PM
Jun 2020

Steve’s got nothing on Cenk, and Joe Rogan, who is an acolyte of a certain junior senator from New England.

BannonsLiver

(16,384 posts)
41. Steve's great!
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 02:38 PM
Jun 2020

The best part is he triggers the right people and not all are Dump supporters. Dead enders don’t like him either, apparently.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
43. Video from AM Joy:
Sun Jun 28, 2020, 08:35 PM
Jun 2020
Former GOPer Slams Trump's Inaction On Russia's Soldier Bounties | AM Joy | MSNBC


Russia offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants to kill American soldiers in Afghanistan, NBC News has confirmed. Political strategist and advisor to the Lincoln Project Steve Schmidt joins Joy Reid to discuss allegations that Donald Trump knew about this, and did nothing, telling AM JOY, ‘What a rancid moment in the life of the American nation.’

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